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Missing

Kosovo, Palestine, Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, Somaliland, Sealand, Abkhazia, Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, and South Ossetia are all considered independent nations. Someone add those, that'd make this map complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.201.78 (talk) 02:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Out of those, Kosovo is the only country which is recognised as an independent nation by the United States, therefore it should be shown on the map. Frenzie23 (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Greenland

I tought Greenland had a flag of its own...

It has, just checked article.

Lewis82 (talk) 20:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

-I Agree, they have their own flag Csendesmark (talk) 22:19, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I came here to ask the same thing. Why dosen't this map show Greenland's flag? Greenland isn't there because it isnt an independent nation, it is part of Denmark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.201.78 (talk) 01:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Taiwan has a national flag. (Flag-map_of_the_world.svg)

Taiwan has a national flag. Was that a Chinese that removed our flag from Flag-map_of_the_world.svg at revision "01:57, 17 December 2009" Addroof (talk) 02:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC) Addroof (talk) 02:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure the Taiwanese greatly appreciate you making them part of the PRC when they have their own flag and control of the island.

And don't forget the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank that are part of ISRAEL according to this!

That is a bunch of nonsense, even the Israelis do not claim this as part of Israel!!! change it ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.84.184.74 (talk) 12:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Don't Forget Greenland and Kosovo! --Sneaky Oviraptor 18^{talk edits tribute} 17:27, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh great. Nitbits from the edit summaries:

(Deleting Northern Cyprus and Kosovo to fit the new criteria, and adding all islands.)

(Now it shows only the UN member states.)

(Western Sahara is a Non-Self-Governing Territory with no administration so it is grey now.)

-Sneaky Oviraptor 18^{talk edits tribute} 17:31, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Taiwan should have its own flag or be gray, it is not part of China. Thank You Baby (talk) 12:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's missing ROC, Kosovo, Greenland, and Tibet. Parts of India also belong to China on this map which isn't accurate.

Jordan and Iraq

Should they look that similar? --Sneaky Oviraptor18^{talk edits tribute} 17:33, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Myanmar's new flag?

Myanmar has a new flag since October 21, 2010... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.69.2.171 (talk) 17:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Israel – Palestinian Territories

The Israeli flag covers both Gaza and the West Bank. Could this be rectified?Filastin (talk) 23:33, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

PRC flag on Taiwan

Currently, the flag of the PRC if used for Taiwan. This should not be the case - we should either use the flag of the ROC, the flag of Chinese Taipei or show no flag at all. Whether Taiwan is a member of the UN or not is irrelevant. The bottom line is that the PRC flag is never flown in Taiwan nor used in international organizations, so it's simply incorrect to use it here. Laurent (talk) 11:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

There's a whole host of issues here. Do we add every non-UN state? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 15:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

It's not as simple as adding or not adding every non-UN state. Right now, we are associating a flag with a territory that does not flow the flag and that is never associated with said flag in reliable sources - that's a major issue. To be accurate, Taiwan (and perhaps other territories with similar issues) should either show its real flag or be left in gray. Laurent (talk) 17:12, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I highly disagree that reliable sources never associate Taiwan with the PRC flag. The online britannica article has the PRC flag, and the map they have on the article includes Taiwan. As for your earlier assertion that international organisations don't include Taiwan when discussing the PRC, I highly doubt that as the PRC has huge sway in many organisations.

It probably is as simple as adding or not-adding every non-UN state. The only undisputed non-UN state is the Vatican, and there's no way the vatican could be seen on this map. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 18:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Then I should have been clearer - can you find a reliable source that unambiguously associates the island of Taiwan with the PRC flag? I highly doubt you will find any. In fact, the Britannica source has an article about Taiwan with a flag of the ROC. Moreover they state that China consists of 22 provinces so they exclude Taiwan. Sometime they make Taiwan part of China (on the map), sometime they don't (on the text and the separate article). My problem with our map is that we leave no ambiguity. We shouldn't simply say "Taiwan is part of China and flies the PRC flag" - this is plain incorrect, not supported by sources and doesn't reflect the facts. In articles, we can clarify these things but on a map we cannot. So that's why I'm suggesting to leave Taiwan out, which would mean "The status of Taiwan is disputed". Laurent (talk) 03:29, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by that. We haven't shown Taiwan alone flying a PRC flag, the flag covers the whole of the claimed PRC. It's not unambiguously associated here any more than it is in Britannica. Besides, this is just a map, and when used we can have text, like Britannica does, to explain. Anyway, there's no reason to treat Taiwan as especially special here. If changed, Kosovo and similar territories should also be changed, for the same reasons of the flag being flown there not being the one currently covering it in this map. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 00:31, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

You seem to agree that there are errors in the map (Kosovo, Taiwan, etc. are covered by a flag they don't fly), so shouldn't we do something about it? Right now, the map is a WP:SYN which takes UN maps, takes the flags of UN members, and mixes all that together, even though no independent reliable source is doing the same. WP:SYN is clear that we shouldn't "combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the source". Also our goal is not to promote one POV in particular but to educate readers. If we tell them that the PRC flag is flown in Taiwan, we are not doing a good job at educating them. So, as an alternative to the current map, couldn't we have something like "State flags flown by the given territories". I think that would leave no ambiguity because it's easy to know which territory flies which state flag (not that I'm not talking about regional or subnational flags). Laurent (talk) 13:03, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I disagree it's SYN, it's what many atlases show but with flags instead of land, but it's definitely a POV. I can't do much with it because I can't open the file without seriously lagging my computer. At the moment this map is as far as I can tell "UN states including claimed territories". A more realistic map should include all the countries listed at List of sovereign states, which would be the "State flags flown by the given territories" I guess. Does including the de facto boundaries of all the countries at List of sovereign states (therefore not just UN states) sound like a good criteria to you? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 14:53, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I have started a discussion about it at WP:OR and the consensus seems to be that the map is either OR or an artistic interpretation, and using it on Wikipedia should be avoided (in fact, one of the editors there removed the map from an article). I think a map showing the "State flags flown by the given territories" would be more useful but it would still be an artistic interpretation because we would be defacing the flags, so in the end I don't think it's worth the trouble. Like you, I cannot open the SVG file anyway (I have to open the PNG version). Laurent (talk) 11:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)