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Lobby cards[edit]

Are these acceptable substitutes in the absence of posters? I see many old Hollywood cartoon shorts (especially Merrie Melodies and Looney Tunes) using them, but Krimuk2.0 objects to a lobby card of Soldier being used. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:55, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no poster image, I see no issue with a lobby-card image. WP:NFC says cover art is permitted for visual identification. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 03:26, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. And the film poster article itself says, "Lobby cards are similar to posters but smaller". Kailash29792 (talk) 04:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"If there is no poster image" is key. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 05:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a poster image? I took a quick look but didn't find one. If there is one, it can be used instead of the lobby card. I don't think there has to be nothing until a poster image can be found. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your decision is good Erik. Something instead of nothing, since lobby cards are posters. Hope you didn't search for the namesake American film which came the same year. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 22 March 2024[edit]

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Hello there,

I'm Jannie an art student in the University of Ghana.

I will like to use your template to create a Wikipedia page for a movie.

This will help people in Ghana and across the world to read about the movie and possibly refer others to watch.

I hope my request will meet your consideration and approval.

Thank you Jannie-semenyo (talk) 17:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This talk page is for improvements to Template:Infobox film. Any page may use this template by transcluding it through placing {{Infobox film}} in the page's source. Any film article must meet the notability guideline for movies. For further assistance, please visit the Teahouse. SWinxy (talk) 20:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does country equals "independent country"?[edit]

Recently, there was some issue between me and another user about Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, a Soviet film produced by Dovzhenko Film Studios from Ukrainian SSR (a constituent member of the Soviet Union at the time). He thinks that Ukrainian SSR should be listed as the country, and I would prefer Soviet Union to be listed. Frankly, apart from [1], I haven't seen any source listing its country of origin as such and most of the inital arguments from the user were sites listing it as a Ukrainian film. However, I don't think it being Ukrainian film means that its country of origin is not Soviet Union, as Ukraine was a part of that country, not a country itself. The discussion even touched upon so-called Russian disinformation and Ukrainian nationalism, so I really don't want to continue going in that direction here. I have posted this on the talk page and am waiting for his response, but I would like to hear more opinions of what should country generally indicate.

Some of my examples were:

"We don't write for Hollywood films that they are from California, but from the US"
"It is usual to refer to films made in USSR as Soviet films: Russian Mirror (film) is labelled as "Soviet film", as well as Come and See or Lieutenant Kijé (film) from Belarus, Armenian Anahit (1947 film) etc., etc. Even other films from Ukrainian SSR are labelled as Soviet films, such as Aerograd or Farewell, America."
"Ukraine was not an independent country, but just a constitutive republic of the Soviet Union (just like California in the USA and I don't care if you like that comparison or not). If you are offended by that, another example is that we don't write for Scottish or Welsh films that their country of origin is Scotland or Wales, since those are not countries."

I have also checked seven other random famous films from defunct states aside from the Soviet Union and they all included the original country:

Closely Watched Trains (Czechoslovakia)
Battle of Neretva (film) (Yugoslavia among others)
The Cremator (Czechoslovakia)
Battle of Sutjeska (film) (Yugoslavia)
One Song a Day Takes Mischief Away (Yugoslavia)
Ecstasy (film) (Czechoslovakia)
My Sweet Little Village (Czechoslovakia)

The only exception from this rule that I could find are the films from United Arab Republic (1958-1961 union of Egypt and Syria), which all have country of origin listed as "Egypt", probably due to fact that Syria had little to none national cinema at the time. Also, a huge majority of films listed in Category:Austro-Hungarian films have the country as Austria-Hungary. Same with Category:Films of the Russian Empire. StjepanHR (talk) 01:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bit of a howler of an example you've got there. Scotland is most certainly a country. That Sinking Feeling. Barry Wom (talk) 02:46, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I took only a quick look at Category:Scottish films and majority stated "United Kingdom" as the country. StjepanHR (talk) 03:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I agree that Scotland is a country in a sub-independent level (admittedly, I should have wrote "not an independent country", my mistake :( ), but I specifically asked if the country of origin should mean "independent country" or if it should include sub-national level states. StjepanHR (talk) 03:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 2 May 2024[edit]

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Please, add VISUAL EFFECTS category to update information in this film template. Neuropixels (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have not wanted to add more credits to the film infobox because it is already long enough, but this does not mean that a full crew list cannot be provided in the article body. (After all, the infobox is generally a summary of what is in the article.) See Panic Room#Production as an example. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2024[edit]

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production design to the Info box film template. So that production designers of films can be credited. thanks Maryturner88 (talk) 05:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. Nardog (talk) 10:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]