Category talk:African-American candidates for President of the United States

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This might be more interesting/informative as a list, where one could see party affiliation, year, votes, etc. But I'm glad it exists as a category, at least! 169.226.84.184 (talk) 23:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

First African American Presidential candidate?
Copying discussion from Clifton DeBerry talk page:

Although I had added that, perhaps he wasn't; possibly he was second after Clennon King. "During the 1970s, King established a mission for the homeless in Albany, Georgia, and became a perennial political candidate. He ran unsuccessfully for governor of Georgia in 1970, for the state legislature in 1974 and 1976, and for the commissions of the City of Albany and Dougherty County in 1976. (He had already run for president, in 1960, as a representative of the Independent Afro-American Party. According to Federal Election Commission records, King finished that race eleventh out of twelve candidates, garnering 1485 votes. John F. Kennedy won the election with 34,226,731 votes.)" [http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/1993-02-24/feature_2.html Semple, Kirk "The Rev. Clennon King is unique. Period." Miami New Times Feb 24, 1993].

However, I'm not sure if King was on the ballot or was a write-in candidate? Or if the party was a real one or just him? See also Titcomb, Caldwell "Black Blood in the White House" Harvard Crimson January 18, 1972 Yockel, Michael "Clennon King, Nutty Racial Provocateur" New York Press Esquizombi 13:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * According to Ballot Access News: "In 1960, the Independent Afro-American Unity Party had placed presidential elector candidates on the Alabama ballot, and those elector candidates were pledged to Clennon B. King, another African-American. However, in Alabama at the time, presidential candidates’ names did not get printed on ballots." Given that the U.S. presidential election is actually an election for electors, it seems like a bit of gray area as to whether Clennon B. King counts.&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!) 19:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I think I actually should have said 1st male african american candidate, since he was preceded by Charlene Mitchell as well. Esquizombi 22:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Copying from Talk:List of African-American firsts:

I thought it was Clennon King in 1960, but now I came across some info indicating it was George Edwin Taylor of the National Liberty Party in 1904; regardless he needs an article. And then I came across mention of Blanche Kelso Bruce, which elsewhere (not in the WP article) says was nominated for, but did not become a candidate for, President. Hmm. See e.g. "Black Blood in the White House" and |"Pioneers in Presidential Race." Some editors here may also wish to help with Category:African American United States presidential candidates - in adding people, or maybe turning it into a list so that distinctions can be made between nominees and candidates and so on as well as providing other details. Шизомби (talk) 20:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, this page seems to indicate that in 1848 Frederick Douglass received 1 of 104 votes at the convention of the Liberty Party (United States) for President. That might make him both the first AA VP and P candidate. I don't know if it is the same as the National Liberty Party or if they were related in any way. Шизомби (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Again returning to the above syr.edu page, one of the presidential candidates who ultimately received the vice presidential nomination was C.C. Foote. Foote is identified in The Provincial Freeman: A New Source for the History of the Negro in Canada and the United States by Alexander L. Murray The Journal of Negro History, Vol. 44, No. 2 (Apr., 1959), pp. 123-135 as "a white preacher from Detroit." However, in Martin Delany, Frederick Douglass, and the Politics of Representative Identity By Robert S. Levine 259 n.46 he is identified as a "black minister." If AA, he would be the first prior to Douglass. Шизомби (talk) 21:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Table
If an Article of a List would be of interest to develop instead of/in addition to a Category (which needs to be chronologized, filled out, and perhaps other fields for running mates, primary winners (if other than person), election winners, votes won, etc.):

Others not listed

 * Randall Alan Venson, an independent possibly the first black muslim candidate. http://politics1.com/indep2k.htm No page for him on WP. Шизомби (talk) 00:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)