Category talk:Black (human racial classification)

Opposed speedy move request

 * Category:Black (human racial classification) to Category:Black people – C2D & C2E Fa suisse (talk) 06:42, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose: this converts the category from a topic category into a set category (see WP:Categorization), and would likely fill it with an enormous amount of articles.
 * Actually it would be a topic-set category, if I understand the convention properly. It will mainly include other large categories, as it already does (Category:African diaspora is probably the largest). Relatively developed subcategories already exist, such as Category:Lists of black people. In any case, Black race already redirects to Black people, and Black people needs a category, as "Black"-titled articles and (small) categories have up to now been categorised under "African" categories and spread around. Time to order things a bit ! Fa suisse (talk) 07:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Category:Black people was deleted at cfd in 2006 and again at cfd in 2007. Oculi (talk) 11:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I haven't mentioned it yet but there already exists a category:Black British people. Also, we have Category:Lists of black people, Category:Anti-black racism, Category:Black people in art, Category:Black political parties, and Category:Anti-black racism. There is a corresponding article, Black people. I understand that this was discussed back in 2006 and 2007, but as you can see more than a few other categories have emerged under the same concept of "black people". It would seem pretty incoherent to me not to have a dedicated category for this concept, which has, again, a long dedicated article. Fa suisse (talk) 15:00, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Black British is an official term. Oculi (talk) 11:08, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support I've had many arguments with Americans about subjects like this on Quora. Americans insist on using Americanisms for everything, even when the rest of the English speaking world are in the majority. They label every topic/category/article about Black people to African Americans, so when you request to change them to things like Black people, Black culture, Black music etc you're fighting an uphill battle, as they seem to think the word Black is racist. I've even heard Americans refer to Black British people as British African Americans countless times, and they've even referred to people from countries in Africa as African Americans a few times too. Danstarr69 (talk) 23:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Opposed speedy move request 2

 * Category:Black (human racial classification) to Category:Black people - "Black" is already a "human racial classification" so Africans or "black people" as white Europeans and Asians informally call them are darker-skinned as originally evolved from monkeys. Which is why I call this speedy category rename from Category:Black (human racial classification) to Category:Black people a most official speedy category rename. Euanjohnb (talk) 18:06, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose - this was proposed recently (tagged on 20 Nov) and is in the 'opposed' section below. Oculi (talk) 18:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)