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It is said that Eleanor of Aquitaine's mother was the mistress of her father. Wikipedia indicates the name of her biological mother was "Dangeruese de Chantellherault". It's not the first time that "Norman" or "Faux French" story tellers or "Troubadors" sought to discredit or conceal ancient bloodlines originating from the "Langue d'oc" region that threatened their own supremacy. In fact, much of French history revovles around the destruction and discrediting of the ancient Occitani blood line by calling the "line" into question. Although some call the "media spin meisters" romantic "troubadors"...they served an extremely valuable service for the Courts they represented..."misinformation" was a valuable tool.

To my understanding, the appearance of "Dangeruese" may just be a horrible transliteration of an ancient "occitani" idiom or it represents one of the earliest uses of a "pseudonym" to protect/hide the "true" source of a royal bloodline. Suffice it to say that it is a very early use of the word "ruse" or "red" or "rougue" or "rouge" herring to throw off the unwary or casual researcher. "ruse" or "roge" as in "Moulin Rouge" ("Red Barn") simply means "red". So does the word "Ross". When we hear of the "Ross lyn" Chapel in Scotland through the movie "The "Da Vinci Code", the reference is to "Ross" or "ruse" is the same technique. The reason why medieval Frankish and English chroniclers used devices such as "red" as a "substitute" for "incognita" has a far deeper mystery that may derive from Grail and even older Western traditions.  I'll give  you a  hint..the original "red line" of the "Prime meridian" didn't pass through Greenwich, England or Paris!  It passed much further south! and may have actually been the very reason why the Pyramid of Giza was built in the first place...as a silent, permanent witness to the "Prime Meridian".  Egypt's gift to 1,000 succeeding generations!

In a nutshell, "D-ange-ruese" may actually be translated as "d' anjou rouege" or "the Rose of Anjou"...an old epithet for the ancient blood line of one or both of the "Marys" which is NOT necessarily the lineage of Jesus. Although the ancient myth of the "Grail Saga" is familiar to us, some sources say the "Grail" itself is nothing but a "ruse" to hide the fact that "Joseph's" bloodline was fancifully truncated by the "fictional" association of "Jesus" with a "Virgin Conception". Curiously, the Catholic Church has spent nearly 1700 years making sure the text of the New Testament completely coincides with the myths of "Zoroaster", another middle eastern "prophet" that was born of a "Virgin" on December 25th, crucified and was foretold to return with an Army to destroy the "unjust" in an ultimate showdown of "good vs evil".

Whether this is all just "phantasm", WikiPedia should make greater efforts to 'reconcile" the Eastern & Western historical views. As we all know, (Jew/Arab/Christian/Pagan) ruled most of the area in harmony for nearly 600 years.  In fact, recent scholarship indicates that "Columbus" may have had an Arab navigator and that his ships were just a small part of a gigantic fleet of ships owned by Jewish Merchants in Seville.  You should also keep in mind, that by the 1490's the Catholic Church was already receiving "tithes" from Princes and Princesses throughout Asia, China, India, and South East Asia.  Yes, Ferdinand and Isabella MAY  have outfitted the expedition but if you trace Isabella's blood line..it begins to get a little "Arabic"!

Eventually, the French Dukedom of "Chantellherault" referenced above was granted to the "Hamilton Clan" of Scotland, in return for Scotland's defense of Southern France from persistent invasion of the English Armies seeking to "unite" Southern French lands with the "Norman" lineage. Eventually, the Dukedom of Chantellherault was joined with "Anjou" (where the Plantagenet/Angevin kings arose from) as well as "Orleans" (where the British condemned "Joan of Arc"). Curiously, Elanor means, "light of the heavens" in Arabic. It's also another form for "EAN" which is simply feminine "IAN" or "John" or "Joan". By the way, "Aquitaine" is actually derived from "OCCITANIA" as well. Why is the South of France, the Occitani Region, the Catalan Spain, Moorish Control, and the word "Red" associated. "Look for Reuben and the Roussillon."

If you want to solve the mystery, at the heart of the "Da Vinci Code"...the key lies in the fact that the two letters "oc" in "Occitani" are supposed to mean "yes" as well as the "d' Oil" from the Langue d'oil region to its north. Actually, the word "yes" or "oui" are derived from something far more ancient...they are ancient symbols for what modern lore refers to as the "evil eye". Hence the modern"eye-eye" on the "high sees" was spelled "aye-aye" in the middle ages. The "aye-aye" was a double "blessing" for extremely superstitious "see-farers", it actually represents an oath of protection or spoken "amulet" from danger on the "high-sees"..interpreted as "eye of the sun; eye of the moon, bless our voyage". Therefore, if any order was given..."eye-eye" was the perfect response to assure the order would be carried out.

Somewhere in "linguisitic" history the word for "eye" and "aye" and "oui" and "yes" became one and the same. In fact, the term "d' oil" has an even earlier derivation and actually means "oil" and in "olive oil". The word "ol-ive" clearly shows the primary designater for "oil". In reality, "olive" simply means "oil". In ancient Hebrew and Arabic the word for "tar" as in "pitch" to cover the planks of ships wasn't called "tar" but "oil"...and Idiom for "the eye of the bull"...hence the word "Taurus"..hence the word "Tar" for an ancient mariner. Reports from the Dead Sea and the Sea of Galilee are full of accounts of "Black Tar" floating to the surface. To the ancients, the "Glob" of oil looks just like the black shiny pupil of a "bull" ripped from it's socket. Hence all oil was referred to as "Bull's Eye" or "O'il". or "Bullae". Some, even older accounts indicate that "oil" was associated with the "eye of the moon"! The bull's eye is a "target" shaped with concentric circles, the symbol for "Taurus".

Although I'm sure you're going to blow this off as soon as you see it, I just thought you might find it a little compelling. It sounds nuts but after 30 years of tracing my  bloodlines  I've found that I am in fact descended from Hugh de Payne, the founder of the Knights Templer; the "Hamilton Clan"; the "Russell" or "Rose" lineage of the Occitani, the "Black Knight" of England; the throne of Wales; the throne of Scotland; "Guillermo" blood line of Spain; just to name a few. I'm sure you would never believe that my young son actually sleeps in the bed that Napoleon and Josephine slept in on their wedding night, it's covered in beautiful hand carved "Roses" and "Lions". If you are confused, just "WikiPod"..."Susan May Williams". You shouldn't be surprised,

In the final analysis, we've all shared ONE single World, Christian, Jew, Muslim and Buddhist, for thousands of years..why can't we just admit we also "share" ONE "Common History". Much is being made of "Al Qaeda" and "Terrorism". Global Terror isn't new...it's a "world view" that has driven international relations since "Rome was sacked by the Goths which were actually Arian Christians from North of the Black Sea, who were converted by Missionaries from for the Greek Church, from Ireland", or since "Gheghis Khan's father was poisoned by his mother as the Great Khan was about to sack Rome to rubble". You see, Gheghis Khan's mother was a Nestorian Christian and his father's death forced him to withdraw his armies for the funeral of his father.

"Al Qaeda" just means "Justice of the Peace"...it doesn't mean "the camp" as the US Government wants us to believe. In fact, there is some evidence that my familly is actually related to the "Justice of the Peace" or "Al Qaida" or "Al Calde" or "Mayor of Cadiz" in the 9th Century. I am not a terrorist. I'm also a direct descendant of Roger Williams, the founder of Rhode Island. We can all chose which side of our "geneology" we wish to identify with...ME? I've always identified with....

zorro 67.161.184.201 23:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)