Category talk:Kickboxers by nationality

Deletion
Can someone who supports keeping this category please explain to me how it fits into the martial arts category scheme? All other martial arts do not have martial art by nationality categories. Basically, these are the existing schema: There is no "martial art practitioners by nationality", nor is it needed. If Category:Kickboxers by nationality is kept, what would go in it that is different from what is in Category:Kickboxers? If everything in Category:Kickboxers is moved to Category:Kickboxers by nationality, why have the extra level of complexity? The only item in Category:Kickboxers would be Category:Kickboxers by nationality. --Scott Alter 02:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * martial art (Category:Kickboxing) -> practioners (Category:Kickboxers) -> nationality (Category:American kickboxers)
 * practitioners (Category:Martial_arts_practitioners) -> martial art (Category:Kickboxers) -> nationality (Category:American kickboxers)
 * practitioners (Category:Martial_arts_practitioners) -> by nationality (Category:Martial arts practitioners by nationality) -> nationalities (Category:American martial artists) -> martial art (Category:American kickboxers)

Within Wikipedia, "Martial Arts" is treated as one sport with lots of sub-sports. Category:Martial arts practitioners by nationality is already integrated within all of the sports-related articles. To do this for every martial art will add about 30 new sports to be integrated (see Category:Martial arts practitioners for this breakdown). If you insist on the "by nationality" tag, then just rename all of the categories within Category:Martial arts practitioners to "martial art practitioner by nationality". --Scott Alter 02:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * As you have just pointed out, we already have Category:Martial arts practitioners by nationality. What we are missing is Category:Martial arts practitioners by type and nationality, which would include Category:Kickboxers by nationality, Category:Judoka by nationality etc, to provide a different pathway.  For another example of how this work, compare  with.
 * I was mistaken in adding this category to Category:Martial arts practitioners by nationality; it should have gone in a new Category:Martial arts practitioners by type and nationality. Not sure, though, whether "type" is the right word; it appears that "system" would be better word. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

"Type" is probably better, since it is a type of martial art. Not all martial arts are called systems (ie Wrestling). Since everyone seems to be in favor of adding the additional categories, how is this for a categorization:
 * Category:Martial arts practitioners
 * Category:Martial arts practitioners by nationality
 * Category:American martial artists
 * Category:American kickboxers
 * Category:Martial arts practitioners by type
 * Category:Kickboxers
 * Category:Kickboxers by nationality
 * Category:American kickboxers
 * Category:Martial arts practitioners by type by nationality
 * Category:Kickboxers by nationality
 * Category:American kickboxers

I just moved this discussion to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Martial_Arts, so please comment there. --Scott Alter 23:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)