Category talk:Members of New Zealand provincial councils

Members of New Zealand provincial councils
I have copied this discussion from the politics talk page.  Schwede 66  05:35, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

We have a Category:Members of New Zealand provincial councils with currently just over 100 articles. There have been hundreds of provincial councillors (I own a 1925 version of the 'New Zealand parliamentary record', which lists all of them), and whilst not all of them are notable, the number of articles is going to increase by quite some over time. I'm thinking of turning this into a meta-category, with membership of the respective provincial council as the subcategory. I'm unsure how to name this, but here are the options that I can think of:
 * Category:Foo provincial councillors, or
 * Category:Members of the Foo Provincial Council

Your thoughts would be welcome.  Schwede 66  08:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Category:Members of Foo Provincial Council - the definite article is redundant. Fan |  talk  10:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think it matters which, as long as the style is kept consistent from the get-go. It should be remembered though that some of the provinces had total populations in the low thousands - comparable with pre-1989 boroughs - so many of the councillors are never likely to end up being notable, unlike (for example) MHRs or MLCs. Daveosaurus (talk) 11:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd be inclined to start with a List of Members of the Foo Provincial Council (probably a table with which terms the were members) so we could do the disambiguation and references can be accumulated for the borderline cases. Personally I think that most if not all of these are going to be notable, but it'll take time to find the references. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * A list is fine - for those that don't have, or don't warrant articles, and any lists would naturally be within each provincial category - alongside those wiki-worthy members. The current category should be a super-category to direct us to Members of Canterbury, Members of Taranaki, etc Provincial Council. Lists of Superintendents should be in main lists as I doubt there's enough of them to warrant separation. Fan  |  talk  07:36, 10 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, let's do both the categories, and the lists of councillors. I'll start with the categories now. There were 41 Superintendents, so nowhere near enough to split it into a large number of subcategories, but that list article does exist already. Note that Superintendents weren't regarded as members of a Provincial Council, at least not in Canterbury. That said, I'm not sure that there was only one set of rules across the provinces.  Schwede 66  18:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

As per the discussion above, here's a list of categories so that membership can be put into the respective subcategories:
 * Category:Members of Auckland Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Taranaki Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Hawke's Bay Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Wellington Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Nelson Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Marlborough Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Westland Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Canterbury Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Otago Provincial Council
 * Category:Members of Southland Provincial Council

I'll work my way slowly through the list of articles, improving referencing as I go. Over and above this, there were of course the three earlier provinces (New Ulster Province, New Munster Province, New Leinster Province), but they were something quite different, so let's start with the ten as listed above.  Schwede 66  19:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)