Category talk:People excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Beginning year
What year can we say people fit into this category? Do they have to be excommunicated after Joseph Smith's death (1844) by the Apostles in Nauvoo? When do we say The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was distinct from the other schisms that went to Wisconsin/Michigan, Texas, Pennsylvannia, Kirtland, etc? I'm trying to conform this to WP:MOSLDS. ——Rich jj (talk) 23:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I would say to include anyone excommunicated from 1840 on. It is clear there is a constinuous organization that conducts excommunications.  This is the general policy with the Roman Catholic Church category, where people are included who were excommunicated by the Pope and his agents long before the Schism of the 11th Century that brought about the Catholic Church as a distinct unit.  I think in general the effort against Anachronistic terminology related to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, at least applied to category naming is out of line with actual wikipedia policy.  Category naming is a different issue from article content.  What you say about someone's excommunication in the article is a seperate issue.  In the issue of category naming we have precedents from the Harvard University, Michigan State University, Utah State University and many other alumni categories of using the current name for people who graduated long before the institution gained that name.  Categories are about organizing things, and so are not held to the same rigorious rules of avoiding anachronism.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * No, it should start at the succession crisis: everything before should be in its' own specific sub-catagory Category:People excommunicated by the Church of Christ (Latter Day Saints). -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)