Category talk:People with bipolar disorder

Scope
I agree this is an important Category, but I advise caution in placing a person in it. To formally label someone as suffering from bipolar disorder in an encyclopedia is not something to be done casually, or, certainly not without a factual basis. A person can exhibit manic and/or depressive behaviors without having the formal diagnosis of bipolar. In short, just be sure your sources are objective, scientific and reliable. Michael David 11:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to see a page listing the people that have manic seeming personalities yet are undocumented (i.e., the Jim Carreys and so on of hte world). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.135.219.242 (talk • contribs)


 * Unlikely. It would violate WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and WP:BIO. Three strikes.Doczilla 08:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Why are in the list if it's not sure that they are bipolar:

- Vincent van Gogh (used as an example of who can't appear in this category)

- Ludwig Boltzmann

- Edvard Munch (?)

- Vincent van Gogh's medical condition

- Charles Baudelaire

- Amy Winehouse (supposed borderline) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.87.7 (talk) 19:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

No science
But the very existence of "Bipolar" as an actual "objective, scientific and reliable" mental illness or "disease" is based on no science at all. So why is it given credence in Wikipedia? See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UDlH9sV0lHU Johnalexwood (talk) 20:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It is widely recognised in the medical field, has a major effect, is diagnosed and treated. Jim Michael (talk) 01:47, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Examples of those who do not belong in this catagory
Didn't mean to start an edit war, but I believe that the of examples of "People with manic-seeming public personas but without documented diagnostic histories of bipolar disorder" is a BLP violation, and should be immediately removed. -- Racer X11 Talk to me Stalk me  02:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You are correct - so I have removed the mentions as they are unsourced and not supported by the articles about those persons, per WP:BLP. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 02:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. On a side note, I think that final vandalism warning issued to IP's talk page was a little undeserved. This was a content dispute, not vandalism, and it's possible he didn't realize the defamatory nature. It took a while before it dawned on me. Maybe a less severe edit warring template would have been more appropriate. I know it wasn't you and not to slap the sack of the editor who did... idk, just a thought. -- Racer X11 Talk to me Stalk me  03:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ...and now he's been blocked. Oh well. He obviously wasn't getting the hint regardless. -- Racer X11 Talk to me Stalk me  03:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Inclusion criteria
I just rewrote the inclusion criteria for people from earlier periods of history to require that there be agreement among a preponderance of verifiable and credible sources, rather than mere speculation from one such source, which was a ridiculously low standard for inclusion. I discovered the problem when I noticed that Beethoven had been placed in the category on the basis of a single source speculating that he may have been bipolar (which I promptly removed). I suspect there are more than a few other articles that have been placed in the category on comparably shaky grounds. Cgingold (talk) 02:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

This matter previously read:

In the case of individuals who lived in a historical period before the diagnostic criteria for bipolar disorder were defined (e.g. Vincent van Gogh, Charles Dickens, Ludwig van Beethoven, Diego Armando Maradona, Cristian Pity Álvarez, John Lennon, Jim Morrison, Charlie Sheen, Britney Spears, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams, Gerard Way, DMX, Kate Moss, Pete Doherty), this category should only be used if a preponderance of verifiable and credible sources are in agreement that the person in question was bipolar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.226.31.111 (talk) 15:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)