Category talk:Saga of the Skolian Empire

Saga of the Skolian Empire articles
There are a surprisingly large number of articles (at one point, upwards of 40 articles) and redirects related to this series. The articles are fairly lengthy text written apparently on the basis of the primary sources themselves only, though not specifically sourced even to them. Posting here for an uncluttered centralized discussion which can be briefly linked from other talk pages as needed. Most contain tags for a few of the following: references and sources, fan site, too long, overly detailed, peacock terms, original research, unverifiable claims, in-universe style, cleanup, not appropriate for an encyclopedia, notability, orphan... perhaps others. All could probably use tag consolidation with if that isn't how it currently is, and any ones without a tag probably need it.

What I'm willing to do: I'll add sources for the awards to the novel(la) articles, and work on cleaning up the tags, and posting talk page comments about the issues (probably by linking to this page), and categorizing any uncategorized pages.

I tend to think all the novels are better handled by a single series article. There don't seem to be online WP:Reliable sources (direct, detailed coverage by reputable sources), but I'll concede that there could be some offline sources for them. I also tend to think none of the content-related articles are appropriate and that there would not be offline sources for them; the AfDs seem to bear this out. Clearly some Wikipedians have some enthusiasm for and knowledge of this series, but it might be better to address that on a fansite, or to actually publish the work and get recognition (and money?) for it. Шизомби (Sz) (talk) 01:10, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I worked a little on the novel articles: added the awards with a good reference, did some tag consolidation using Template:Article issues and added some Template:Allplot tags, fixed some wikilinks, removed some duplicate links per WP:SEEALSO, added WikiProject Science Fiction to the talk pages. There's some more I'll do along these lines. Шизомби (Sz) (talk) 07:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Added short story infobox, more allplot tags, minor cleanup, added WPP SciFi to plot element articles, did tag consolidation and SEEALSO for them. Categorizing redirects regarding that issue, which I'll try to tackle next and add talk page comments to articles. Шизомби (Sz) (talk) 16:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Author and novel(la) articles

 * Catherine Asaro author
 * Ascendant Sun novel
 * Aurora in Four Voices novella, Nebula (active members of Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, Inc.), Hugo (World Science Fiction Society members), Locus (readers’ poll) (6th place), Sieun (Japanese SF convention attendees) award nominee, An(a)Lab (Analog readers’ award), HOMer (Compuserve SF&F Forum members) and Sapphire (Science Fiction Romance print and e-mail newsletter subscribers) award winner
 * Catch the Lightning novel, Sapphire award winner
 * The Final Key novel
 * The Last Hawk novel, Nebula award nominee
 * The Moon's Shadow novel
 * Primary Inversion novel, Locus award nominee, 10th place; Compton Crook/Stephen Tall Memorial Award nominee
 * The Quantum Rose novel, Nebula award winner, Sapphire nominee (3rd)
 * The Radiant Seas novella, HOMer nominee
 * Schism (novel)
 * Skyfall (novel) Sapphire nominee (3rd)
 * Spherical Harmonic novel

Categorized series content articles

 * Eubians multiple issues
 * Kyle Web merge to Rhon psion proposal, multiple issues
 * Lyshriol multiple issues
 * Psion (Saga of the Skolian Empire) merge to Rhon psion proposal, multiple issues
 * Rhon multiple issues, merge proposal to Rhon psion (currently a redirect)
 * Ruby Empire prodded, merge proposal, redirected, redirect removed http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruby_Empire&diff=331820447&oldid=331820221 diff] edit summary: "Editor must be out of his mind."
 * Skolian Empire multiple issues.  prodded, merge proposal, redirected, redirect reverted with edit summary diff Edit summary: "Revert campain against articles.”

Redirects to Eubians

 * Aristos (Saga of the Skolian Empire)
 * ESComm
 * Highton (Saga of the Skolian Empire)
 * Providers (Saga of the Skolian Empire)
 * Taskmakers
 * Transcendence (Saga of the Skolian Empire)

Redirects to Kyle Web

 * Dyad (Saga of the Skolian Empire)
 * Kyle space
 * Lock (Saga of the Skolian Empire)
 * Triad (Saga of the Skolian Empire) (prodded, prod removed for merger)

Redirects to Psion

 * KAB rating
 * Kyle Afferent Body

Redirects to Ruby Empire

 * Raylicon
 * Ruby Pharaoh

Redirects to Skolian Empire

 * Advance Services Corp
 * Evolving Intelligence
 * Quasis
 * Skolian Flag

Redirects to Catherine Asaro

 * Kelric

Redirects to Eubians

 * Aristo (ruler) redirect to Eubians
 * Aristos (Saga of the Skolian empire)
 * Eubian Empire
 * Highton (Saga of the Skolian empire)
 * Providers (Saga of the Skolian empire)
 * Transcendence (Saga of the Skolian empire)

Redirects to Kyle Web

 * Dyad (Saga of the Skolian empire)
 * Lock (Saga of the Skolian empire)
 * Psiberspace
 * Psiberweb
 * Triad (Saga of the Skolian empire)

Redirects to Psion (Saga of the Skolian Empire)

 * KAB Rating
 * Kyle Rating
 * Kyle rating

Redirects to Rhon

 * Rhon psion

Redirects to Skolian Empire

 * Saga of the skolian empire
 * Skolian Imperialate

Uncategorized redirects

 * Eubian Concord redirect to Eubians
 * Imperial Space Command redirect to Skolian Empire
 * Saga of the Skolian Empire redirect to Catherine Asaro (merged)
 * Skolian empire redirect to Skolian Empire

Prior Articles for Deletion

 * Articles for deletion/Allieds delete
 * Articles for deletion/Apocalypse War (Radiance War was bundled with articles about other authors’ works) procedural keep due to overbundling of unrelated articles
 * Articles for deletion/Dyhianna Selei delete
 * Articles for deletion/Eldrinson Althor Valdoria "no consensus,” redirected to Catherine Asaro
 * Articles for deletion/Jagernaut delete
 * Articles for deletion/Jaibriol III delete
 * Articles for deletion/Kelricson Garlin Valdoria Skolia “no consensus”, redirected to Catherine Asaro
 * Articles for deletion/Kurj Skolia “no consensus,” redirected to Catherine Asaro
 * Articles for deletion/Radiance War delete
 * Articles for deletion/Roca Skolia “no consensus"
 * Articles for deletion/Roca Skolia (2nd nomination) delete
 * Articles for deletion/Ruby Dynasty delete
 * Articles for deletion/Sauscony Lahaylia Valdoria Skolia delete

Other moves, deleted prods, speedy deletions, redlinks, etc.

 * deleted "Pharaoh's Army" (Covered in much more detail in other articles)
 * deleted "Category:Saga of the Skolian empire" (Robot: Category was moved to Saga of the Skolian Empire)
 * Probably others?

Debresser
Hi. I have been working on these articles as well, some half year ago, as you can read in detail on one of my userpages.

I proposed the merger of Kyle Web, Psion (Saga of the Skolian Empire), and Rhon into Rhon psion (a redirect at present). Work page User:Debresser/Rhon psion.

I have a copy of the deleted Sauscony Lahaylia Valdoria Skolia in my user space at User:Debresser/Sauscony Lahaylia Valdoria Skolia. In addition, the recent deletion discussions at Articles for deletion/Jagernaut and Articles for deletion/Roca Skolia (2nd nomination) concluded that it would be wise to merge all articles about characters into one big article Saga of the Skolian Empire (also a redirect at present). I agree with this. Of course they will have to be shortened a bit. The text can be retreived from the histories (which is why they were kept as redirects). The redirected articles are Jagernaut, Roca Skolia, Eldrinson Althor Valdoria, Kurj Skolia (which I restored from deletion previously), Kelricson Garlin Valdoria Skolia, and the original Saga of the Skolian Empire, but I think the same holds true for other articles (present and deleted) as well. Work page User:Debresser/Saga of the Skolian Empire.

Although we definitely started on a bad foot at Talk:Aurora in Four Voices, I propose we start helping each other out in this. If only to prevent further deletes.Debresser (talk) 09:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I finished Saga of the Skolian Empire. Debresser (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I finished Rhon psion. Debresser (talk) 17:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

As a result of the above merges, many redirects have been changed. I have also categorised a few of the previously uncategorised ones. In addition Articles for deletion/Taquinil Selei and Articles for deletion/Tarquine Iquar are missing in the list above. I have merged them into Saga of the Skolian Empire as well. Debresser (talk) 17:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)