Category talk:Shudra castes

Shudra or Ati-shudra
Most of the groups listed under this category come under the untouchables who were not traditionally part of the Varna system. As I mentioned before, apart from brahmins most if not all the other castes in India fall under the shudra category, be it Sat-shudra or Ati-shudra. Personally, I don't see why users Mathewvanitas and Sitush are so obsessed with the Shudra categorization or the varna system?

In modern India, apart from brahmins, nobody gets stuck up on what varna they belong to. Yes, most people will acknowledge what caste they belong to. People belonging to the former untouchable classes ( now known as scheduled castes) will use it  to  get advantage of affirmative action program available to them in jobs and colleges. To a lesser extent, the so called other backward classes also will use that categorization to get on the affirmative action gravy train.

Guys, as you are always ready to knock down other editors for using old references, consider varna categorization as a dated term. As I have said before, if you insist on having this category then include all the non-brahmin castes of India here, not just the untouchables and a few assorted castes !Jonathansammy (talk) 02:47, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Here "lodhi" are added on shudra but they are Pure chandravashi Kshatriya Rajput caste. Please Remove "lodhi" from the list you created Bold. 2402:8100:2129:F8BF:2D5B:FA5D:A1C0:CBD6 (talk) 08:14, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * SIR WHY ARE THE LODHI CASTE IS ADD IN SUDRA CATEGORY BUT THEY CONSIDERED AS RAJPUT OR KSHATRIYA, SO, I REQUEST PLEASE CORRECT THE DETAILS AND REMOVE LODHI FROM THIS LIST. Lodhinavneetrajput (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Please don't add false information. Here koeri are added on shudrq but they are Pure Kshatriya(Rajput Kachhwaha/Kushwaha) caste. Here the word should be "Kori" yes they are Scheduled and Shudra but Koeri are not.Please Remove Koeri from the list you created. There is the big difference b/w "Kori" and "Koeri". I have proof. Sandy Edit Wala (talk) 03:54, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Please can we remove this category
I do not understand why we need this category. It could only be used for castes that have formally accepted that they are Shudras. For example: the former untouchables. Otherwise it is disputed and then we cannot use this category anyway. I think we should get rid of this category all-together because it serves no purpose other than dividing Hindus. There are also some Brahmin castes that were classified as Shudras but they never accepted it and they continue to append Brahmin to their names(I will not name them here). But we cannot include them here as their non-acceptance shows that it is disputed. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 04:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


 * yah 2402:8100:2129:F8BF:2D5B:FA5D:A1C0:CBD6 (talk) 07:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Koeri
Please Remove Koeri Caste from this Catogery because they are Kushwaha Kshatriya. I have Certificate of this. Sandy Edit Wala (talk) 03:50, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Bhumihar people are upper caste
They enemies of us shudras Anirudh Kumar Paswan (talk) 07:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Please Remove Lodhi and talk lodhi Caste from this Catogery because they are Kshatriya.
I have Certificate of this by indian history, shiv puran and rigveda  2402:8100:2129:F8BF:2D5B:FA5D:A1C0:CBD6 (talk) 08:06, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

remove lodhi.. lodhi is a obc caste
You dumb mind, on which basis did you mark Lodhi in the sudra list? If they are Shudra, then put them in the SC list! ; they come under the OBC list with the name Lodhi_Rajput. Get a resarch done on the newly introduced shudra of your family with the name of Shudra_EWS. 110.226.84.181 (talk) 18:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Talk Ashish Bhushan lodhi (talk) 19:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

remove this page, as you are only dividing Hindus.
. 110.226.84.181 (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC) or write an article on the newly introduced Shudra_EWS category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.226.84.181 (talk) 19:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Lodhi is a higher agricultural caste.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/20583/20583-h/20583-h.htm 110.226.84.181 (talk) 19:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)