Category talk:Wikipedia template tracking categories

The category's idea
The idea for this category is described in Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 5. —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Subcat naming
this is a useful hierarchy, but I suggest renaming a lot of the subcats.

I agree that "Wikipedia" is not needed before "template" in the cat names all the way down, but IMHO:
 * 1) "tracking" should be followed by "categories" rather than without that word
 * 2) "tracking categories" is better than "issues"
 * 3) "template" as a descriptive word should be singular, as in e.g. Category:Template parameter issues by task but not some of its subcats.

E.g. please can we rename: If you agree, we can rename these under WP:C2E. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:template tracking by task to Category:template tracking categories by task
 * Category:template tracking by topic to Category:template tracking categories by topic
 * Category:template parameter issues by task to Category:template parameter tracking categories by task
 * Category:template parameter issues by topic to Category:template parameter tracking categories by topic
 * Category:Archival templates parameter issues to Category:Archival template parameter tracking categories and several by-task siblings likewise
 * Category:Arts and culture templates parameter issues to Category:Arts and culture template parameter tracking categories and several by-topic siblings likewise
 * Category:Wikipedia never substituted templates to Category:Wikipedia never-substituted templates


 * When I was creating these, I was thinking "this is the tracking done by templates". I don't really care much for adding the word "categories". But I won't oppose, if you want to nominate. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * OK. What was the intended difference between your new and its parent ? They currently have the same contents. Strangely, the duplicate "issues" category has been copied as a duplicate category also in Slovene and Thai by  and .  – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * was created in 2022 for the tree of, before I realized that existed (see this edit from 2024).
 * The difference between and, is that the "issues" are problems that need fixing, while "tracking" is more generic. Sometimes the template tracking categories exist just for the sake of statistics, curiosity, etc. For this reason, I'd oppose the proposed rename nomination (which hasn't made it to Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 13 yet).
 * Another point about proposed renaming → "Template parameter tracking categories": the word "parameter" makes the category too narrow, because not all tracking is related to template's parameters. For example, some tracking is due to a page's namespace or name. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This suggests that it would be better to remove the word "parameter" from and its subcategories, which I created in 2022. However, "Wikipedia template issues" would be indistinguishable from . Perhaps instead we could have additional layer of cleanup categories (using "by task" and "by topic" as an example):
 * However, I haven't yet encountered "enough" subcategories of for this additional layer. See also yesterday's discussion Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 12, where lack of distinction between Category:Wikipedia category maintenance and Category:Wikipedia category cleanup was brought up. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm dumb I didn't think through the argument about the word "parameter". Of course, "Template INS parameter tracking categories" has the word "parameter" in it to distinguish from "Template tracking categories". I struck out the nonsense paragraph. The argument about not all tracking being about problems that need fixing stands. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * From the point of view of Slovenian Wikipedians: It is not so strange. We strive to keep our templates in line with yours, primarily due to the translation tool and the system settings for various functionalities, including categorization. Then we make additional small adjustments as needed. Given our limited resources, we often rely on your established templates and trust in your work. --Pinky sl (talk) 09:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your replies. I have not yet listed the categories that I tagged, and intend to come back to this later. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * However, I haven't yet encountered "enough" subcategories of for this additional layer. See also yesterday's discussion Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 12, where lack of distinction between Category:Wikipedia category maintenance and Category:Wikipedia category cleanup was brought up. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm dumb I didn't think through the argument about the word "parameter". Of course, "Template INS parameter tracking categories" has the word "parameter" in it to distinguish from "Template tracking categories". I struck out the nonsense paragraph. The argument about not all tracking being about problems that need fixing stands. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * From the point of view of Slovenian Wikipedians: It is not so strange. We strive to keep our templates in line with yours, primarily due to the translation tool and the system settings for various functionalities, including categorization. Then we make additional small adjustments as needed. Given our limited resources, we often rely on your established templates and trust in your work. --Pinky sl (talk) 09:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your replies. I have not yet listed the categories that I tagged, and intend to come back to this later. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * However, I haven't yet encountered "enough" subcategories of for this additional layer. See also yesterday's discussion Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 12, where lack of distinction between Category:Wikipedia category maintenance and Category:Wikipedia category cleanup was brought up. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm dumb I didn't think through the argument about the word "parameter". Of course, "Template INS parameter tracking categories" has the word "parameter" in it to distinguish from "Template tracking categories". I struck out the nonsense paragraph. The argument about not all tracking being about problems that need fixing stands. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * From the point of view of Slovenian Wikipedians: It is not so strange. We strive to keep our templates in line with yours, primarily due to the translation tool and the system settings for various functionalities, including categorization. Then we make additional small adjustments as needed. Given our limited resources, we often rely on your established templates and trust in your work. --Pinky sl (talk) 09:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your replies. I have not yet listed the categories that I tagged, and intend to come back to this later. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your replies. I have not yet listed the categories that I tagged, and intend to come back to this later. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)