Draft talk:Cynthia Slater

I've been in contact with several historians on the matter of BDSM historical context & cultural recognition - it seems that the first step, much like Hegel's work preceding Marx, is to identify and describe the 'big figures'. History from below within the BDSM public sphere would be nice, but first we apparently have to start from whole cloth. Thus, we must have the George Washingtons set down so we can identify the servants and aide-de-camps...so to speak. Mr Kalm (talk) 02:33, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

=Contention with 'Significance'= This has been turned down for being non-significant twice, along with not having enough independent sources - let me refer you to Wiki's definition of independent sources:

″An independent source is a source that has no vested interest in a given Wikipedia topic and therefore is commonly expected to cover the topic from a disinterested perspective. Independent sources have editorial independence (advertisers do not dictate content) and no conflicts of interest (there is no potential for personal, financial, or political gain to be made from the existence of the publication).

Interest in a topic becomes vested when the source (the author, the publisher, etc.) develops any financial or legal relationship to the topic." Journal articles are of course dependent on their subscribers, but there is no particular benefit from Cynthia Slater to be gained with these articles - only with their association to the context of their readers, BDSM in this case. It's the same as Science News having an article on Hoagland's contribution to hydroponics, and saying they're gaining something from Hoagland - in other words, utterly specious. One of the references being a psychological treatise; the same logic applies.

Let me also refer you to the definition of secondary source: "an author's own thinking based on primary sources"

Several of the citations in the references are journal articles, and at least one is a psychological theory book regarding this subject, in which Cynthia Slater is an important historical figure. Mr Kalm (talk) 17:53, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

=Comparison with other articles about related figures= Look at David Lourea's page - I dare you to look at it and say this page is less significant. In addition, check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality_in_the_United_States - Cynthia Slater is a big part of the 1980's section Mr Kalm (talk) 05:58, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

At least add this as a stub, for God's sake!
There's talk on the Society of Jaus Talk page from 2007 wanting a separate page! Please, at least add this as an incomplete page! I've been trying to get this added for almost two years in one form or another! Mr Kalm (talk) 20:31, 23 September 2019 (UTC)