Draft talk:Indie soul/Archive 1

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedy deleted as being about a subject that was invented/coined/discovered by the article's creator or someone they know personally and for lack of asserted importance, because... (You must be unfamiliar it is a very common style and term, of which I happen to love and have listened to for 20 years. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/lindsay-lou-billy-strings-queen-of-time-1234919917/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rnb/comments/15b2430/indie_soul_and_rb/ https://www.pbs.org/show/indie-soul-journeys/ https://www.last.fm/tag/indie+soul/artists https://www.chosic.com/genre-chart/indie-soul/ https://everynoise.com/engenremap-indiesoul.html) --Atmospherpolyphonic (talk) 20:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Indie music (disambiguation) tells me that neo soul can be called "indie soul". Is it the same topic as this article? ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 21:10, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There is a clear distinction in the soundsscapes of the two Neo-soul is more traditional soul music that has been modernized, whereas Indie soul has a broader spectrum of Rock, Funk, Hip-Hop. Atmospherpolyphonic (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, nice to know. The title should probably have "soul" uncapitalized though, to be consistent with other music genre articles. ObserveOwl (chit-chat • my doings) 21:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/best-rb-albums-of-2016-so-far-170635/
 * Anderson Paak’s Malibu begins with his gospel-raised voice and, less frequently, a rambling rap style honed alongside subterranean crews like (the sadly defunct) Hellfyre Club; and then rambles across crate-digger beat loops and pimp-ish brags. His persona seems more rooted in indie hip-hop, at least for those unfamiliar with indie-soul predecessors like Sa-Ra Creative Partners Atmospherpolyphonic (talk) 21:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

The same statements you made on my talk page about the term just meaning "independent" soul can be applied to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_rock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_folk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_electronic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_pop So did you mark those for deletion? No. But the fact is they are a different genre vs LABEL mainstream rock, folk, electronic, and pop. Because they developed on their own trajectories with more collaboration. And artists who identify themselves as indie-soul, of which there are a tremendous amount of recognized artists, are distinct sound genre in each of the above, and including this one. Indie soul is referenced consistently on all major media, in every music publication of note, and on playlists and curation at all major music services, and in google search trends lists it list as a seperate music genre. It is not niche. It may not be part of your community which is fine, so you should reserve participation. I believe that an appropriate information page on this topic ads to the Diversity of wikipedia. You already tried to speedy delete saying "I made it up", which was outrageous and got immediately rebuffed by a moderator. And now you have again marked it for deletion with everything you could think of. I am hoping it is just something you are unfamiliar because the zealotous nature of trying to remove a pervasive music genre with exactly similar ones from more "traditional" American genres seems unusual to say the least. This page serves the mission of wikipedia to provide knowledge on a subject of interest, which without any question has the notability readily available and is a significant part of many communities. A simple google search would tell you that in about 20 sec's. I believe it to be a great start to a interesting subject in Wikipedias music right along with the jazz and blues.