Draft talk:Katherine Elkins

Revised Draft:Katherine_Elkins
[The author of the draft posted the following on my Talk page and for convenience I am copying it, and my response, here:]

Hello!

Thank you for so quickly reviewing the draft of this proposed Wiki article. I carefully read, researched, and revised the Draft to address your primary concern regarding 'Notable' and meeting the minimum threshold for several of the 8 academic criteria. To address the 'notable' and academic criteria, I had to be a bit more foward but tried to focus on an organized list of impact, results, and contributions rather than a laundry list of CV items. I hope I struck a balance - please advise if not.

The new draft has many more supporting details and authoratative secondary sources with notable academics, researchers, and thought leaders that Elkins has engaged with over recent years. Many of the details like upcoming papers and talks at Yale, Harvard, Reed College, and others did not have authoratative links so I left them out.

My main concern is being transparent about COI at this point. To avoid this, I initially engaged a service to navigate this issue. They turned out to be a scam, so I am trying to write the article myself. It's complex to communicate to a third party because there are so many details and subtle judgement calls. I flagged this article as a potential COI when submitting and tagged my user page with "". I hope the merits of article speak to the authenticity.

There are very few women who are thought leaders in AI and tech in general, so I hope this will be a service to the research community and beyond to add more voices to discussions around AI. It's a bit of a catch-22 and as academics, we generally are not very good at having a voice beyond the narrow confines of academic echo chambers. With the rapid advance of AI in everything from lethal autonomous weapons to potential large-scale disemployment, there is a urgent need to bring more informed humanistic perspectives to the public discussions on AI.

Please advise on any next steps.

Gratefully,

J J2000ai (talk) 23:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the ping. Discussion about the page is best posted on the Talk page of the draft, so it is most easily seen and accessible to all editors and reviewers, so I have copied your post over to there, and responded there. Cabrils (talk) 00:40, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * My response:
 * Hi ,
 * Well done on progressing the page, however I am still seeing several issues. To establish Elkin's notability (as defined), we need to see articles about her rather than by her. Please review the (voluminous) references accordingly.
 * Also note that many of the references are not from sources that are considered reliable and should be removed (like LinkedIn). As I noted in my previous comment on the draft, the draft tends to read too much like a CV, which Wikipedia is not.
 * Further, and again, as I suggested in my previous comment on the draft:
 * (1) could you please post WP:THREE here;
 * (2) could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:NPROF criteria #3, because XXXXX");
 * (3) as requested by, could you please identify whether Elkins has a full professor appointment (including a named chair appointment)?
 * Thank you for your COI declaration.
 * Look forward to your response. Cabrils (talk) 00:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello!
 * Thanks again for the feedback. The first feedback asked for supporting details for academic notability, so I added lots many links of peer-reviewed papers and famous academics/thought leaders that she has spoken alongside at events. There were more that were not adequately sourced (like the LinkedIn I removed per your request).
 * I'll update the Draft to include these facts that I forgot/missed after I hear from your feedback:
 * Andrew Mellon Professorship
 * National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) Distinguished Teaching Professor
 * Whiting Award
 * Founding Director of the Comparative World Literature Program
 * Per your 3 requests:
 * (1) The 3 most significant/recent sources:
 * a. Her 2022 Cambridge Univ Press book that is the first to use AI to analyze the emotional plot in stories/narratives.
 * https://www.cambridge.org/core/elements/shapes-of-stories/3047F01956467FA981DB9F14A18A6725
 * b. The Whitehouse/US NIST AI Safety Institute as Principle Investigator for the Modern Language Association (an association of 25,000 literature, linguists, translators, etc academics worldwide)
 * https://news.mla.hcommons.org/2024/04/16/mla-will-participate-in-department-of-commerce-consortium-dedicated-to-ai-safety/
 * c. IBM-Notre Dame AI Tech Ethics Award (1 of 14 worldwide) as Principle Investigator
 * https://techethicslab.nd.edu/news/notre-dameibm-technology-ethics-lab-awards-more-than-900-000-to-support-collaborative-research-projects-between-teams-of-notre-dame-faculty-and-international-scholars/
 * (2) Point by point address of WP:NPROF Criteria
 * WP:NPROF:1
 * Elkins developed a significant new methodology for using AI for Computational Literary Studies (per 1.a) and her numerous peer-reviewed articles and presentations at leading conferences/journals)
 * Was the first to publish using LLM for literary and narrative research and coined the term "AI DH" (or AI Digital Humanities)
 * WP:NPROF:2.
 * Elkins received 1 of 14 international IBM Tech Ethics Award (per 1.c above)
 * The 2001 National Winner of the A. Owen Aldridge
 * WP:NPROF:3
 * Selected as a Principal Investigator for the Whitehouse/NIST US AI Safety Institute
 * WP:NPROF:4
 * Elkins co-created the world's first human-centered AI Digital Humanities curriculum with over 55,000 downloads worldwide from 160 countries/territories and +1,000 institutions
 * WP:NPROF:5
 * Elkins is a full-professor and has been Director of the Integrated Program in Humane Studies (per (3) below)
 * National Endowment of Humanities (NEH) Distinguished Professor (2018-2021)
 * (new) https://www.kenyon.edu/offices-and-services/office-of-the-provost/recognition/neh-professorship/
 * WP:NPROF:6
 * Selected to represent the 25,000+ scholars worldwide for the Modern Lanaguage Association (per 1.b above)
 * WP:NPROF:7
 * Panelist with leading thought leaders, authors, and public intellectuals with the Helix Center in NYC and Al Jazeera
 * Audible.com Lectures on Tape on the Modern Novel and Giants of French Literature for wide audience
 * Industry AI Strategies Expert for Bloomberg Executive Education
 * WP:NPROF:8
 * Editor for Oxford University Press Series on Philosophy and Literature (2022)
 * (3) Professorship
 * Yes, Elkins was promoted to full professor in 2022 as Director of the Integrated Program in Humane Studies (as noted in this announcement by the Board of Trustees) (see (2)WP:NPROF:5 above)
 * https://www.kenyon.edu/news/archive/full-professors-2/
 * Regards,
 * Jon J2000ai (talk) 21:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Audible.com Lectures on Tape on the Modern Novel and Giants of French Literature for wide audience
 * Industry AI Strategies Expert for Bloomberg Executive Education
 * WP:NPROF:8
 * Editor for Oxford University Press Series on Philosophy and Literature (2022)
 * (3) Professorship
 * Yes, Elkins was promoted to full professor in 2022 as Director of the Integrated Program in Humane Studies (as noted in this announcement by the Board of Trustees) (see (2)WP:NPROF:5 above)
 * https://www.kenyon.edu/news/archive/full-professors-2/
 * Regards,
 * Jon J2000ai (talk) 21:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Regards,
 * Jon J2000ai (talk) 21:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)