File talk:2010-2011 Middle East and North Africa protests.svg

I love you guys
I just wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate the thought and care that has obviously gone into the collective development of this map over the past couple of months. Wikipedians rock!!!

New Color Needed for Civil War?
Should a new color be added for civil war? Current events in Libya suggest it may be necessary, since none of the current color-codings accurately reflect their situation. :( --JM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.216.32.184 (talk) 18:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, Libya needs a new colour. It's no longer just "Major Protests" but an actual civil war. Bobthefish2 (talk) 07:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, Libya needs a new color as there have been governmental changes (loss of control, resignation of numerous diplomats, defection of military elements), but it is not referred to anywhere as a civil war. Yet, at least. 140.247.144.179 (talk) 20:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. Libya is not yet in civil war, and it looks highly unlikely that it will become a civil war. You watch - in a few weeks, protests will dry out, because of Libya's oil wealth. GeorgeGriffiths (talk) 19:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

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FYI: My colorblind coworker says that the green and dark red looks exactly the same to him. Would it be possible to make the green lighter so that it is lighter than the yellow and thus distinguishable as a different color by colorblind people? Thank you. --JM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.216.32.184 (talk) 17:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not colorblind, but I see the colors for "governmental changes" and for "major protests" almost the same. Colors in the map indeed should be improved.--Azarien (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Lebanon is to be marked as green, as nothing really happened. The allegedly day of rage was just a few pro-future movement partisans who demonstrated in Tripoli due to the government changing sides through a fully recognized democratic process. But there no issues of oppression and human rights or totalitarianism in the sense of the other countries, thank for modifying it accordingly. [J] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.39.141.10 (talk) 14:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Can we mark lybia in maroon soon--J intela (talk) 03:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice job on the map, it's coming out pretty well and I believe the the ongoing discussions about the countries with disputed borders (Sudan, Western Sahara, Somalia, ... ) will find a solution.

I want to add another thing to the discussion: The description of the map states "other MENA countries" are green, which implies all other countries which are not gray are MENA (at least it's my instinct).

This isn't true for Mauritania and Somalia. --Elllit (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I would propose to change the description to "other MENA or Arab League countries" as those are the foundation of the map. Keep in mind that this would also include the Comoros. --Elllit (talk) 10:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Libya to Red
I think we should make Libya red, given the fact that numerous Ambassadors have resigned in protest.Liberal92 (talk) 19:17, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Eritrea
Eritrea should be added in Green, and the legend updated to reflect that it is an Arabic speaking country. Since Eritrea is related to the Somalis (Djibouti, Somaliland, Somalia) and Red Sea Arabs, it should be highlighted on the map. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 02:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Gaza Strip
Someone should add Gaza to the map. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 02:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Request to cover other counties
It is requested to cover all countries mentioned in article 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests and Asian countries like China in the map.--Maheshkumaryadav (talk) 13:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Iraq
Iraq should be orange, there are major protests there. --78.0.243.9 (talk) 19:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Algeria to red?
The government has lifted the state of emergency there, does that qualify as 'governmental changes'? This means that protests are now legal and that the government has relinquished some control. 140.247.144.179 (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Not really. Plumber (talk) 05:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Oman govt change
^OTOH, Oman actually has changed. Also, this new color scheme is dreadful, the first one was best. Plumber (talk) 05:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Change color of Western Sahara?
The main article makes reference to "riots in Daklah, where at least 100 people were injured"; this would seem to give plenty of justification for classing Western Sahara with Morocco and Mauritania as having seen "minor protests." Wareh (talk) 02:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Why Western Sahara is "Sovereignty disputed"
It might confuse people giving Western Sahara an own colour. The protest have nothing to with the conflict! --93.193.5.44 (talk) 08:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Sovereignty disputes play a key part in the protest movement in Morocco/Western Sahara/Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic and Sudan/South Sudan and so should be represented on the map. Laika1097 (talk) 18:04, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Southern Sudan & sovereignty disputes etc
Could the border for South Sudan be corrected? (See the maps on the South Sudan site)

If South Sudan qualifies as sovereignty dispute, then Somaliland definitely should.

Sovereignty disputes probably should be shown as protests in these countries will probably take a different form from the rest of the country. Western Sahara has seen minor protests I believe, so green & yellow (disputed & minor protests) is probably a good rendition. However, I've not heard of any protest in South Sudan, perhaps this should be green & grey (disputed & no protests/other), or even just solid green.

Mjb1981 (talk) 18:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

South Sudan Border Change/Disputed territory?
I support the inclusion of South Sudan and the SADR as green-striped, however the current drawn-in 'border' does not reflect the proposed international border, shown below. Additionally, although I understand the reason for which South Sudan might need to be displayed on the map, can S. Sudan really be described as a 'Disputed territory'?

Image:LocationSouthernSudan.svg

Laika1097 (talk) 18:52, 2 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree that both should be included, I also support the inclusion of Somaliland as a disputed territory.


 * The term "Sovereignty dispute" isn't very accurate for South Sudan, but gets the point across. This isn't a map listing the sovereignty of regions after all.


 * And yes, it would be great if someone could draw the correct border for South Sudan, the current one looks very amateurish!


 * Mjb1981 (talk) 21:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)