File talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.svg/Archive 1

Missing updates
Russian forces have entered Kyiv limits through Peremohy avenue: https://twitter.com/i/status/1497384243458101254 (also around Beresteiska Station: https://twitter.com/i/status/1497380272332963841) Other footage of distant fighting in Solom'yans'kyi district: https://twitter.com/i/status/1497380361797525507 — Preceding unsigned comment added by P4p5 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Russian military in tokmak according to live ua map

Mykolaiv offensive article claims that some force "managed to break through in Kakhovka on the Dnieper and are reported to be heading steadily towards Mykolaiv." RGoes (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Detailed map from Twitter
Found new map with Russian gains in the north and east https://mobile.twitter.com/remilitari/status/1496908030545383429?cxt=HHwWisCy4Yf7isYpAAAA

Symbol
I think the square symbol should read "cities under siege" PastelKos (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Somewhat agreeing. Some clarity is needed. Cities in Ukraine pre-invasion is on the map sometimes shown as red dots if in occupied area, but what i presume is not in active fighting? This is not clear by the legend. Thus "cities under siege" makes more sense, or a synonym of that. Alseimik (talk) 22:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Kyiv encircled
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-europe-e9cd115540b398be26dfcaf472ec1621 Kyiv has been encircled confirms its mayor EnglishPoliticalPerson (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Skadovsk and the rest of the Southern Peninsula is in Russian hands
Mark it as such on the maP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.216.170 (talk) 17:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source for that? Elijahandskip (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Icons to represent Nuclear power plants
Hi, I've seen that Chernobyl plant is shown with a special nuclear power plant icon. However, other, operational nuclear power plants in Ukraine, for example the one at the bank of Dnipro in Enerhodar isn't shown. While it's understandable why Chernobyl would get special treatment in this regard, as it comes to this specific war, ALL Ukrainian nuclear power plants, their status, and their safeguarding, are of upmost significance for Ukraine, for Russia, and for the rest of Europe. I would like to ask if we can have the nuclear power plant icon can be added for the other plants in the country. BasilLeaf (talk) 03:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC) BasilLeaf (talk) 03:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Pushbacks
When comparing with older versions, it appears that Russian forces lost control of some area north of Crimea, then wouldn't it make more sense to draw arrows from the Ukrainian side instead? This would make clear which side has gained control compared to previous days. Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 08:12, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ukrainian counter-offensives have so far been limited to Kharkiv and Kiev's outskirts, large areas being colored into yellow from red were previously miscolored. I will add Ukrainian counter-attacks if a large scale one takes place. Viewsridge (talk) 08:48, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Kherson is surrounded
https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1498558161527132160 --So9q (talk) 09:57, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

map is waaay to conservative. it appears to be at least 2 days out of date.
This is true especially in the north. there have been reports of russians in Pryluky. Chernihiv is surrounded. Zaporizhzhia in the south is also attacked but isn't highlighted. etc Goggo2022 (talk) 18:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

scale
can you please start adding a scale to the map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.76.39.141 (talk) 19:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Does that not depend on the size of your screen?2001:4646:626A:0:41DC:1D5F:E013:3F76 (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2022 (UTC) Nevermid, think I misunderstood/mistranslated 2001:4646:626A:0:41DC:1D5F:E013:3F76 (talk) 21:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.76.39.141 (talk) 13:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Colour coding for areas held before start of operations
Is it possible to colour code Crimea and Donbass areas that were already under Russian control before the start of the operations slightly differently from current advances (light pink/etc.) to help better visualise the progress of the Russians + Donbass troops? Thank you. Nebakin (talk) 04:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Separate topic but is Jane's map being taken into consideration as well? For your reference: https://www.janes.com/images/default-source/advisor/russian-forces-positions-in-ukraine-as-of-0900h-1-march.jpg?sfvrsn=ddb12fdb_1 Nebakin (talk) 04:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Time interval
Hello, terrific job on this map, very well done!

Would it be possible to add a tentative date of when the map was made/updated, instead of the "24 February 2022 - present" that is currently included? This would make easier to understand if we are looking at an updated map or not. --MassimoDellaPena (talk) 16:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Suggestions for Improvement of map
If I may make a suggestion, Looking at previous war maps from the Iraq, Syria, Libya, war. Might I suggest that the bombardment icon be removed from the map? I feel like all its doing is crowing the map, with unnessary elements, which prevent you free seeing the different cities. And many of the strikes are older strikes, are we really going to crowd the map with every single place that has been hit with an airstrike? If this goes on for a while, the entire map will be covered with the strike icon. Midgetman433 (talk) 20:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Another suggestion I have is that the yellow on yellow contrast doesn't seem to make the cities very visible in comparison to how the red and the light red for the russian control is much more visible, perhaps experimenting with a different hue of yellow or even Blue which is a Ukrainian color might provide a better contrast? what do you guys think? Midgetman433 (talk) 20:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on using blue for cities controlled by Ukrainians. Tradedia talk 21:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Key item phrasing implies a major separatism movement throughout Ukraine
The second key item, "Ukrainian territories occupied by Russia and pro-Russian separatists," implies that there is a major separatist movement throughout the country. It should say "or" instead of "and."

The fourth key item, "Russian and separatist advances," implies that there is a major separatist movement throughout the country. It should say "or" instead of "and."

I have not seen evidence of separatists near Kiev, for example, assisting the Russian invasion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holliniv (talk • contribs) 11:57, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Map is way outdated
According to the Institute for the Study of War whole Skadovsk and Kherson raions are under Russian control Also, with the exception of city of Chernihiv the vast majority of Chernihiv oblast is under Russian control. Same holds for Shostka raion(Sumy oblast) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:7E00:2E35:D1EF:FCB2:836F:E75F (talk) 22:53, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Donbas is outdated too, Russian MOD have already reported the settlements captured over the past few days repeatedly, showing control over Luhansk to be complete with the exception of Severodonetsk and that nearby town as the last remaining stronghold, these 2 regions are being surrounded. Russian MOD just announced capturing certain settlements on the outskirts of Donetsk province, while DPR have reclaimed several settlements from their front. Nebakin (talk) 01:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Arrows
Arrows are different sizes. Some have dates, some don't. They are not confusing - but they are prominent and take quite a bit of visual attention, without conveying very much information. Can they be made more informative? Or, if that's not a good option, reduced? Jd2718 (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Counter offensive
Can anybody add the counteroffensive (if Ukrainians have moved yet)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawsongfg (talk • contribs) 20:42, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Map is outdated.
This map is heavily outdated, update it please. P.S. russians do not occupy all of territories, they just move through. 195.205.75.1 (talk) 20:22, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

How to edit the map
Does anyone know how to possibly edit this map? I can not find a edit button for the map. There are some area in the north east the should be under Russian control, and were until just yesterday. Sources https://www.google.com/search?q=map+of+ukraine+invasion&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS849US849&hl=en-US&prmd=inmv&sxsrf=APq-WBuU8DXDLRw2wdAZPhlOxyOpCaXzrA:1648340195427&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwx8TegeX2AhU2mmoFHYn6CRAQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=390&bih=665&dpr=3#imgrc=ROlcqdPK7YwnBM BigRed606 (talk) 00:17, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Inkscape. Dawsongfg (talk) 19:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * it's back to belarusian border. https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1510558905079848961 -- Waveguy (talk) 03:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Sumy Oblast
Guardian and Reuters report that Russia no longer occupies any settlements in the region. Culloty82 (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Ukraine offensive and advances in Kherson Oblast
Ukrainian forces made some gains and advances in northern Kherson Oblast:

"Ukrainian forces continued successful counterattacks towards Kherson from both Mykolayiv and Kryvyi Rih on April 6. Ukrainian counterattacks in northern Kherson Oblast made minor advances, recapturing Osokorivka, Dobryanka, Novovoznesenske and Trudolyubivka. Ukrainian forces additionally conducted counterattacks towards Kherson along the Black Sea coast, with fighting ongoing in Oleksandrivka as of 6am local time on April 6. Russian forces continued to shell Ukrainian positions in Zaporizhia Oblast but did not conduct any offensive operations."

By checking where these villages are in the map, you can adjust and move the frontlines slightly to the south accordingly, and add the arrows. Also, Velyka Oleksandrivka, shown in the map, should change its status from Russian controlled to contested. They are relatively minor changes, but it's positive to show as accurate of a map as possible. --CasuarioAlmeriense (talk) 00:49, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Izyum Control
Izyum is not controlled by Russia: it is under assault, but currently in Ukrainian hands. https://www.criticalthreats.org/analysis/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-18 - handofthrawn1217 19:29, 18 March 2022 (EDT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Handofthrawn1217 (talk • contribs)

You can't just revert the file if it shows territory already recaptured by Ukraine
That doesn't make any sense. Ukraine has restored full and total control over its border with Belarus, 100% fact. The northern front of Putin has fallen and has been retreating, right now it crossed back to Russia. So whomever reverting this, if you think it's funny then think about families murdered in Bucha and if that's still funny to you. Putin will pay for everything, so please don't revert Ukraine's actions on the map! Slava Ukraine! --198.58.162.238 (talk) 15:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not the place for political trash-talking nor for nationalism in general. Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 01:40, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * another way to think: they're saying that the edit war should be stopped Dawsongfg (talk) 05:55, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

German translation
Could someone correct the German translation:

"ab 24. Februar 2022" should be "ab dem 24. Februar 2022"

"Current frontlines" should be "aktuelle Frontlinie"

"Frontlinie am Beginn des Überfalls" should be "Frontlinie bei Beginn des Überfalls"

"Russischer / separatistischer Vormarsch" should be "Russischer und separatistischer Vormarsch"

"Ukrainian advances" should be "Ukrainischer Vormarsch"

"Contested cities" should be "Umkämpfte Städte"

"Date captured" should be "Datum der Eroberung" FreakyN (talk) 10:53, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Peninsula part of Mykolaiv
I think it should be painted red, since it seems like a defenseless area with three villages most likely being under Russian control with no report whatsoever, separated from the rest of the province by sea. Painting according the province border doesn't seem logical. Beshogur (talk) 22:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Also weirdly, some names in Crimea is in Turkish. Beshogur (talk) 22:51, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You probably opened the Turkish version or have it set to Turkish or whatever.. Dawsongfg (talk) 08:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This map isn't supposed to miss anything. Dawsongfg (talk) 08:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)