File talk:Albert Pierrepoint, English hangman.jpg

Replaceable non-free use
Thank you for posting that bit about the Commons file File:Pierrepoints.jpg. Commons, however, requires that files be PD/Free in both the country of origin and the United States which means that if they are hosting the file then it's most likely OK to use. Of course, it might be questionable whether Commons should be hosting the file, but that is something which needs to be resolved per c:COM:DR. Just for reference, the Commons file is being used in Thomas Pierrepoint for primary identification purposes; so, if it's a problem for Albert's article then it certainly would also be a problem there. If you do have concerns about the Commons licensing, then perhaps asking about the file at c:COM:VPC might be a good idea. Whenever, I've done that for a file in the past, the licensing is either confirmed or someone nominates the file for deletion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:26, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * "if they are hosting the file then it's most likely OK to use": that is not my experience of Commons at all. I've had dozens of images taken out at FAC because of poor licensing there, which is why the Albert image wasn't used. - SchroCat (talk) 05:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Which I clarified by posting, Of course, it might be questionable whether Commons should be hosting the file, but that is something which needs to be resolved per COM:DR. If you feel a non-free image should be used, then it's up to you to justify that it's use satisfies all ten WP:NFCCP. One way to show that the Commons image shouldn't be used would be for it to be deleted via COM:DR. If the file is discussed on Commons and deleted, then non-free use might be acceptable as long as no other free equivalent seems possible; on the other hand, if the file is discussed on Commons and then kept, then I don't think there's much of an argument for using any non-free image. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Except that the younger image is unrepresentative of him as the public know him. He was only in the public eye as an older man - that's when he appeared in the press. - SchroCat (talk) 07:23, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Deletion requested at Commons. - SchroCat (talk) 07:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * A non-free image is not generally considered justifiable based on that fact alone, especially for persons not particularly Wikipedia notable for their physical appearance. I also asked about the file at c:COM:VPC for your reference and will make note of the DR there. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)