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How was the US and "most European democracies" placed on this scale? And what is included in this "most European democracies"? -- Joolz 00:23, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


 * absolutely. This is playschool economics, "my first chart". It's so vague is has no value whatsoever. Even if we assumed that the "European Democracies" are say, France, the UK and Germany, in what way would they be more 'totalitarian' than the US? If anything it would be the opposite. Update by removing the 2 plotted items, or delete altogether. Adidas 09:19, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * while I dont agree that the relative positions of the "european democracies" (who would honestly suggest sweden and the uk could be placed in the same position?) and the USA would nessecarily be different, I do believe they are severely misplaced, this graph has been designed around the idea that they make up the center, when in reality, they could both be located differently, depending on POV. Placing them in the middle has the POV suggestion that there is as much room for change in every direction and that we are currently at a balance between all four extremes - something many (if not most) analysts would contest. Usrnme h8er 09:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Also, please revise the labels so that the arrows are pointing TO the dots. As is, it makes it seem as if the dots have movement vectors. --FuManchu 23:28, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I completely agree, the arrows in this form are very deceptive. Usrnme h8er 09:03, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Vote for deletion
I vote yes, for the reasons described above Adidas 11:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The discussion is located at Images and media for deletion -- Joolz 12:28, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Revised chart
FWIW, the two arguable data points (US & Europe) were removed as they aren't the point of the chart anyway. Colors were modified, and the leader lines were changed so as not to appear like vectors. Saswann 16:28, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Ifd comment
Image was placed on ifd Sep. 9, 2005 for this image being original research. The submitter altered the image to address concerns and the consensus was to keep. --Nv8200p (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)