File talk:Australian large car sales 1991 onwards.png

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1991	1992	1993	1994	1995	1996	1997	1998	1999	2000	2001	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	2011	2012

Commodore sedan+wagon	50,820	57,641	62,663	75,330	80,452	83,001	76,849	94,642	85,648	83,610	85,422	88,478	86,553	79,170	66,794	56,531	57,307	51,093	44,387	45,956	40,617	30,532

Falcon sedan+wagon	48,430	57,832	64,941	72,924	81,366	77,835	71,850	68,758	70,084	60,460	53,534	54,629	73,220	65,384	53,080	42,390	33,941	31,936	31,023	29,516	18,741	14,036

Avalon, Camry 6 etc	0	0	6844	7996	7886	10701	11786	18694	21281	22449	20230	19004	19343	19654	14995	9431	22044	19562	13910	11764 Other	9,037	16,382	22,965	26,326	24,872	27,369	38,809	35,270	31,110	32,247	31,117	26,237	24,408	17,470	32,512	28,254	26,385	16,748	12,381	11,347 Upper medium/Large car segment	108287	131855	157413	182576	194576	198906	199294	217364	208123	198766	190303	188348	203524	181678	167,381	136,606	139,677	119,339	101,701	98,583	78,077

data source is VFACTS (see the table on the commodore page for links)

The segment used to be called upper medium but was changed to large in 1995 roughly, the same cars qualified. Greglocock (talk) 05:54, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Should be text
If the fuckwit editor who thinks this graph should be text thinks the text above is easier to understand than a graph, then by all means use the text. Don't just add a lazy tag. Greglocock (talk) 06:12, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Everybody wants their say on here! But I agree with you . Incidentally, I changed the graphical legend to add brands. What did you mean by "etc" with the Toyotas? Just V6 or also the 4 cylinders? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CtrlXctrlV (talk • contribs) 15:58, 1 January 2016‎ (UTC)
 * It's a catchall for the Toyotas that were classified as large cars, which from memory was the V6 variant of the models. Greglocock (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * That's not solely what the tag represents. It also means that there is a way for the information to be represented with either templates and/or wiki markup. Numerical data and graphs almost always meets this criterion, and this one is no exception. And the tag just means that the editor who tagged it sees that it is possible, but may not have the knowledge or the time to figure it out. I mean, after all, Wikipedia is a volunteer project. Bad faith assumptions and name calling serve no purpose here. Steel1943  (talk) 18:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I have created a version of the graph using Template:Line_chart. Easier to maintain and update than the image, can be stored in its own template page for use on various pages. Size can be adjusted if required. –  Ky ta  bu  00:07, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Wow, that looks good. Steel1943  (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. If others are happy to make the switch I will create a template page with optional title and legend, and width variation. –  Ky ta  bu  00:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent! CtrlXctrlV (talk) 01:27, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes that's fineGreglocock (talk) 01:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * If this template gets created, this talk page probably needs to be moved to the template's talk page. Steel1943  (talk) 01:29, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm going away this afternoon so I've left the code for the graph, with template variables included, in my sandbox if someone else wants to make the template page. I tried making it so that each line could be displayed individually, or to have any combination of the lines, but I couldn't get it to work. If someone knows how to achieve that, I feel it would be desirable, especially for use on the individual car pages. –  Ky ta  bu  01:34, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Anyone else creating the template may cause some WP:CWW issues. I know I'm in no hurry, so I can wait. :) Steel1943  (talk) 01:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Great template. This should be easier to update but the source code looks frightening to me! OSX (talk • contributions) 12:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I have created the template at Template:Australian large car sales. I have added it to Ford Falcon (Australia) and Holden Commodore but I am not sure how to implement it at Automotive industry in Australia considering the images surrounding it in that article. –  Ky ta  bu  01:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC)