File talk:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-A0706-0018-030, Ukraine, ermordete Familie.jpg

This image should not be used on wikipedia as the images description was created in the communist GDR; therefore the text describing the event is actually not the original description, but a later addition. It is thus unclear if the description (fascist German officer executing boy whose family has just been executed) is a correct description of the depicted event. noclador (talk) 10:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum says that the description is taken from the Dokumentationsarchiv des österreichischen Widerstandes. It has nothing to do with the GDR. Evenfiel (talk) 18:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * if you had read the discussion at commons you would have seen that the Dokumentationsarchiv des österreichischen Widerstandes has actually taken the photo out of a book published in 1957 in the GDR. So: the description on commons comes from the GDR government Institut for Marxismus-Leninismus and the USHMM and DÖW image description comes from a book published in the GDR... nothing to do with the GDR??? I beg to differ! Also the USHMM is wrong in at least two point: 1) these men are not from an Einsatzkommando as they are wearing Wehrmacht uniforms and not SD field uniforms 2) "the men to the left are ethnic Germans", no they are not - the USHMM image has been cropped and is of bad quality (or retouched), but if you look at the commons images it is clear that all the man to the left are uniformed German soldiers - not civilians! As you can see there are a multitude of issues with this image (i.e. some others: none of the uniformed persons carries a weapon; three dead to the right wear Soviet military boots and there is a second boy to the left of the image, who seems to be smiling,... and so on.) Therefore as laid out on commons the image description is most likely a GDR propaganda falsification (as all WWII images that were released by the Institut for Marxismus-Leninismus - as i.e. this utter BS description of a WWII photo) and should therefore not be used, as in cases of doubt it is better not use an image, then to use a wrongly described/attributed/labeled image. noclador (talk) 00:10, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * You should've posted a link to the discussion at commons then. Btw, you should discuss the description of that photo in commons, not here. If the photo has a wrong description, this is not the place to discuss it. Evenfiel (talk) 09:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)