File talk:Colonisation2.gif

Ethiopia
Ethiopia was Never colonized! i corrected this "mistake" and uploaded the corrected file — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnlk (talk • contribs) 10:01, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

US and Ottoman Empire
First of all, how is the Ottoman Empire "western"? If Turkey is today western, that's mainly a result of Atatürk's reforms in the 1920's and 1930's, after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

Secondly, why wouldn't Iraq and Afghanistan be listed as US colonies? The US exerts more control over these countries than Britain did in many of the countries it occupied. For example, on this map, Egypt is painted red in 1938 indicating that it's subject to the British Empire, but Egypt was nominally independent since 1922. It was, though, occupied by the British military and dominated by Britain. So why the double standard for the US in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Tibet
Great job! This map is amazing! But we normally forget that today, Tibet is still occupied by China!


 * because it is part of china... it is like saying Scotland is still occupied by England or Hawaii is still occupied by USA. colonialism does apply to part of your country even if it was orginally a country by itself. 222.165.72.43 (talk) 22:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Bad comparison to make. Scotland is a constituent part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  i.e. a union of nations.  It is not a part of England.  China is imperial and her non native territory was gained through conquest.  Its no different to British rule in the Subcontinent or Ireland or in Africa, or French rule in north Africa etc. Xaghan (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

China
Great map! But it is missing a very important nation that could, argubly, also be considered a colonial power... China. The boarders of the Chinese empire also expanded greatly over this time period incorporating many new people and ethnic groups.--Discott (talk) 20:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Good point. Compare the map of the Ming Empire, Qing Empire and the PRC.  The territorial expansion is not the result of a natural outward expansion of people but of imperial gain.  China was an empire and still is but under a different name. Xaghan (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Netherlands
In 1959 New Guinea was still a Dutch colony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.163.180.208 (talk) 11:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Ceylon was still a Dutch colony in 1754, as were some possessions on the coast of India, which are now labeled British. They were conquered by the British during the Napoleon era. 145.221.52.72 (talk) 15:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Russia
a) Russia didn't exist as an independent country in 1938, 1959, 1974

b) Soviet Union didn't have colonies

(DVoit 13:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC))
 * Russians exerted a vast sovereignty over the will and lives of the SSR's outside the RSFSR. Hell, the Eastern Bloc should be listed here.Tallicfan20 (talk) 00:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Portuguese Empire
In 1492 Portugal already had possessions in Africa, like Arguin and Gold Coast. But congratulations this is a great work.Câmara 11:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

United States
a: The United States didn't exist as an independent country for the vast majority of the timeline in this piece but was itself a colony of England [Great Britain] and should be listed as such to avoid distasteful historical revisionism.

b: The 'United Kingdom' itself didn't exist until 1801.

(Twobells (talk) 23:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC))

Denmark
Denmark never lost possesion of Greenland and other islands. Also, the Danish West Indies and Danish India are left out.

Iceland and Greenland came under the Danish crown at the same time as Norway, as both were under the Norwegian crown at the time since mid 13th century. Also Norse Colonization in Greenland was lost or disappeared in the 15th century and only later colonized by Denmark in the 18th century. Iceland regained sovereignty in December 1 1918. -Kjallakr (talk) 04:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Sweden
Excellent work! When you get a chance, try to add Sweden's colonial possessions (Finland, parts of Russia, parts of Delaware, etc.). Samuel Webster (talk) 08:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Australia/Canada/New Zealand
These countries did not become independent until 1986 when the various acts of parliament were passed severing all official British control of their governments.--SJ3000 (talk) 18:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As a technicality the Queen (or Governor General) of Australia still has to sign all legislature before it gets enacted, so the British still in part retain control although they cannot legislate laws into the country or states and removed the privy council as the last judicial line of appeal; Canada's date is actually 1982; Additionally for a period of time, PNG was an external territory of Australia from WW1 to 1975, although PNG was still technically a British territory) - the 1938 marking that PNG was a colony of Japan is thus incorrect since the Japanese didn't invade until 1941 (see History of Papua New Guinea); 1901 is generally accepted as when Australia became its own nation (e.g. the Constitution was enacted) albeit not technically a sovereign one, so either way the map is wrong: it either needs to be marked independent sooner or be expanded to the later date of independence Pasamio (talk) 00:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Rhodesia
This map shows Rhodesia as independent in the seventies, but it did technically become so until 1980. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.133.0.8 (talk) 11:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Correction of years
Please, correct "Years shown: 1492, 1550, 1660, 1754, 1822, 1885, 1914, 1938, 1959, 1974, 2007" to "Years shown: 1492, 1550, 1660, 1754, 1822, 1885, 1914, 1938, 1959, 1974, 2008". Thanks! James Michael 1 (talk) 17:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

WWII, Imperial expansion of Nazi Germany
In a GIF file of the history of Colonization, its maddening that it leaves out the territory gained at the height of Nazi conquest, all of which was under some sort of military/civilian administration. I'm not a expert at editing GIF files but someone that is, please add a 1941 or 1942 phase that shows the brief but historically important expansion of German power. This map shows 1939 (hence Japanese expansion after the disastrous Sino-Japanese War) but not 1942, weird.

Japan
This map does not show Japan's colonialism. --131.229.169.80 (talk) 19:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, that's me ^. I forgot to log-in. --Webbie1234 (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Russian expansion is wrongly presented
By 1660 Russians had already conquered most of Siberia and reached Pacific Ocean and Bering Strait. By 1754 Russians had already explored most of continental Arctic shores of Siberia. Greyhood (talk) 17:04, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Austria Hungary
where is Austria Hungary, which once controlled much of Eastern EuropeTallicfan20 (talk) 00:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Addditions?
This is a great .gif, but I feel it could benefit from a few additions. From the 1500s until today, there have been significant periods of expansion in the histories of China, Sweden, Austria-Hungary, Iran, and Oman. --74.103.150.125 (talk) 04:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Nepal Should Not Be Included in British India
Great animated map, but it incorrectly includes Nepal among British territories in South Asia. Nepal was never part of the British empire. It would be helpful if the line of British India could be redrawn so that it doesn't include Nepal! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.136.80 (talk) 03:01, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

If there is any confusion about inclusion on Nepal into British India, one can go to this Encyclopedia Britannica source which cleary states that Nepal stayed independent after 2 years of war between Nepal and British India. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1574299/Treaty-of-Sagauli?anchor=ref1066103 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashowmega (talk • contribs) 19:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Egypt and Sudan
The map indicates that Egypt and Sudan were under ottoman rule in the 1800's while Egypt itself was an independant imperial state, which managed to reach parts of greece, turkey, and as south as somalia, as well as Arabia and Greater Syria and Libya... i believe this needs to be included as well. and Egypt was an independant state by 1922... and not 1952 as the map indicates Arab League User (talk) 17:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)--


 * That's true, but officially Egypt never left the Ottoman Empire, Muhammad Ali of Egypt was still theoretically a vassal of the Ottoman Caliph, even though he (and his successors) were de facto independent. And then in the 1880s Egypt became a protectorate of the British Empire, so it wasn't really independent after that until after WW2. So it could be depicted either way. --Hibernian (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Fiji was under the British not the French
The map currently shows Fiji as being under French rule, but it was actually a British position. There may be other inaccuracies in that area, but I haven't looked that closely, Fiji just jumps out at you.--Hibernian (talk) 15:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Uganda
Uganda is shown as independent in 1959 that is historically wrong it became independent in 1962. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.115.54 (talk) 13:10, 11 June 2013 (UTC)