File talk:F-w-macmonnies-bacchante-bpl.jpg

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 * Image:F-w-macmonnies-bacchante-bpl.jpg. Sculpture by Frederick William MacMonnies (1863—1937), not PD yet. See Commons:Derivative works. Kjetil_r 02:01, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm totally confused by the whole derivative works issue. If a statue is on public display and I take a picture of it for non-commercial use I could still be violating someone's copyright? Blah. And it's only ONE YEAR short of being 70 years since the artist's death. Lee M 13:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * All images in Wikipedia must be usable for commercial purposes. Kjetil_r 17:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Do not delete. Everything published in the United States before 1923 is public domain. This was put on display in 1896.--Pharos 05:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, if it was created in 1896 is it ok. Kjetil_r 13:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Huh? Three-dimensional works (read statues, works of architecture p.p.) are always free to reproduce in pictures (under US law, that is). Let's not get started about the crazy French here. Dr Zak 03:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * §113 of the US copyright law is about “Scope of exclusive rights in pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works”. I can't see that sculptures are exempted from copyright, just because they are three-dimensional. Architecure is exempted, see §120. Kjetil_r 12:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Se also the comments I made below. Kjetil_r 17:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Eek. Seems I'm one of those who merely think they know what copyright law is about. Would it help if we come up with a copyright template Statue for fair-use case like these? Dr Zak 18:15, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I second this request. Daniel Case 04:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I see you've already got one up. Hmm. I was just going to copy with changes as necessary, but yours is more specific. Daniel Case 04:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I'm convinced by Pharos's argument that this is public domain because it was "published" before 1923, so I'm changing the tag to PD-US. User:Angr 14:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)