File talk:Gibraltar map-en-edit2.svg

Incomplete map in full size.
The full size of this map includes only the northern half of Gibralter. You cannot scroll down. Why is that? Can it be fixed? This smaller version doesn't include the text on the map. Oddly, it was selected as the picture of the day for September 10 2008. That far in advance? It's also named as one of the best maps in the encyclopedia with a gold star nomination. It doesn't qualify as is, but it would if improved, and would be one of the best maps I've found of Gibralter if the full size included the entire territory. Wlegro (talk) 14:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * There's nothing wrong with the image but I think I know what your problem might be. When I view the full image using Adobe SVG Viewer, I can only see the top section of the image and have no scroll bar. However, if you hold down the "Alt" key you can click and drag the image around with your mouse. Alternatively you can view it in a program such as Inkscape. Hope that helps! --Gibmetal 77 talk 17:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I have the same problem, and the suggestion above does not work. I'm not going to download Inkscape just so I can see the full map, either. 76.21.8.213 (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sad to say, but IE (which I'm "forced" to use) doesn't have full SVG support...as yet. Such images are better viewed in Firefox. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 04:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the IE shortcut, guys--I didn't see that one coming. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * shift-click in Safari seems to allow dragging movement so you can view the whole blown up pic. However its still not as convenient as actual scroll bars. 72.0.180.2 (talk) 05:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Try Another Browser
OK, I tried to view it above in Safari, and had the no-scrollbar issue. I did get a functioning scroll bar in Opera, however. 76.21.8.213 (talk) 05:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * also having problems with safari... kinda lame for a feat. pic... 72.0.180.2 (talk) 05:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

How so?
I wonder what criteria was used to nominate and choose this map image as a featured picture. Besides not being a photograph or video (not a representation of the real world but an interpretation) the issue of Gibraltar is geopoliticaly controversial and the portrayal of its actual situation in a featured place as mentioned: might be a breach of Wikipedia neutrality point of view policy. If i was Spanish, i'd be outraged. As an argentinian i'd be outraged to see a map of our Malvinas Islands in a Wiki frontpage, with only english names, since such are an english colony and ARE disputed at the UN. Abestrobi (talk) 00:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The criteria used were the same as are used for all others; that is, the featured picture criteria. What on earth you mean by not being a representation of the real world but an interpretation, I have no idea. A map of the Falkland Islands appeared on the 25 August 2007 and no one expressed any concern, not least because it was factually accurate and an attractive map. Just for the record, Gibraltar is neither an English colony nor disputed at the UN. RedCoat10 (talk) 08:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree to RedCoat10 appreciation of this map being in compliance with featured picture criteria. However I have my doubts about diagrams, maps, infographs and alike ability to comply to (NPOV), representing fairly, and as far as possible without bias, all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. NPOV is not listed as FP criteria though. I simply stated my concern that maps of internationally disputed territories without mention to the dispute itself are a sensitive issue. For the record, both Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands are, of the remaining few, disputed non-self governing territories, and both former UK colonies, at the U.N. Special Committee of the 24 on Decolonization, and listed here . (Abestrobi (talk) 07:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC))


 * Gibraltar has been fully self-governing since 1969, regardless of what the Committee of 24 or anyone says. This is a fact. Unlike the Falkland Islands, Gibraltar’s sovereignty is not disputed by Spain but instead claimed. A disupte may well exist with regards to whether Spain can annex it, but sovereignty itself is not disupted.


 * The caption’s purpose is to provide a brief summary of the map, not give an overview of Gibraltar’s political affairs etc. You can find such material elsewhere; namely, Disputed status of Gibraltar. There is more to Gibraltar than an outdated territorial claim and if you are offended by a map of Gibraltar, or indeed any other map that is not to your liking, I would kindly ask you to see the contend disclaimer. RedCoat10 (talk) 12:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)