File talk:Non-free image showing that while in US custody, Tarek Dergoul lost an arm and a big toe.jpg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it. 

The result was to delete the image.

He is still alive, so it is possible to take photos of him. Besides, the photo comes from a commercial source (The Guardian) which is obviously selling licences for the photo to other sources (Daily Mail), so the image additionally violates WP:NFCC. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention, many WP:RS assert that he had multiple toes amputated. To contradict those RS, and insert a text description that says he only lost a single toe, opens one up to concerns over WP:Original research.
 * If you are disagreeing with my use of the di-replaceable tag aren't you supposed to initiate a discussion where additional people are more likely to weigh in?
 * WRT WP:NFCC -- how exactly is a use here, under a fair use claim, replacing the original newspaper's "original market role"? Are we trying to sell the image?  No.  Have we obfuscated the original copyright status of the image?  No.  So we aren't interfering with individuals or organizations who would want to legitimately license this image from doing so.  Geo Swan (talk) 01:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The WP:RS issue can be solved by simply linking to the article from Daily Mail since that article contains the image.
 * The original market role of the photo seems to include that The Guardian sells copies of the photo for use on websites, as you see on the Daily Mail website. Wikipedia is a website. By using the image on this website without paying, this use replaces the original market role (using the image on websites and paying). That is exactly what WP:NFC §7 is based upon. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:52, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it.