File talk:Open back unrounded vowel.ogg

Long and short
The recording has recently been changed to a short version /ɑ/ which is misleading for some usage (e.g. in Northern England English). Shouldn't we have long and short versions (i.e. /ɑː/ and /ɑ/).  D b f i r s   21:34, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * this sound is a recording of the cardinal vowel, which may coincidentally sound close to, or nearly the same as some of the vowels transcribed $⟨⟩$ in world's languages (General White South African English is a great example). Therefore, its length is not relevant. That said, I've just brought back the previous version of the recording, which sounds quite close to cardinal . Peter238 (talk) 15:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I must admit that I struggle to understand phonetics.   D b f i r s   20:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. Peter238 (talk) 21:33, 23 September 2015 (UTC)