File talk:RWB-PressFreedomIndex2013-WorldMap.svg

2014 update required
New report published today: http://rsf.org/index2014/en-eu.php --80.53.5.108 (talk) 23:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

World press freedom index
''The following note was posted to my talk page today. I'm moving it here together with my reply.'' --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 00:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * hey, could you update your map to the newest report: http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php --80.53.5.108 (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I assume the map you are talking about is File:RWB-PressFreedomIndex2013-WorldMap.svg. It isn't my map, but I'll look into updating it. It may take awhile. I took a quick look at the RWB website and I didn't see a list of countries with their 2014 ratings. All I found were text descriptions and a map without a key. Perhaps I missed it. Hints welcome. The RWB article is dated 12 February, which is tomorrow, so perhaps they are still in the process of putting everything in place. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 00:12, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking this up, Jeff Ogden (W163). Please note that this IP user is being a little obsessive regarding all things Central European. The file can't be updated until the figures for 2014 are released. This person doesn't seem to comprehend that we're not a wire service. There is no point in generating a map until the end of the year. Any statistics in the section of Wikipedia being agitated for will be added as text at this point in time. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree that there is no tremendous rush on this. We can produce a map as soon as RWB releases the figures for their 2014 report (covering 2013). What we have now is countries in rank order and a color coded map without a key. We might be able to dope things out from that, but for now I think the best bet is to wait a bit and see if RWB provides the same kind of information that they have in previous years (country, rank, score, and classification). --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, yes. Once it's in the main pull-down menu, then it's established. Considering that, as became evident with EuroMaidan recently, the stability of any region is precarious at best, it's a little premature to expend our limited man/woman-hours on tweaking maps for 2014 when we're not even mid-way through February.


 * I'll just follow the trail of where it's being used and add a subsection & lists according to the layout of the corresponding pages. At 11 articles at 15 minutes a piece, that's probably more than I feel like doing (I was trying to get on with cite checking a number of very dubious articles that have already proven themselves to be screaming for citekill), but I'll update articles where it could be deemed as being more or less critical. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why you keep saying "it's a little premature to expend our limited man/woman-hours on tweaking maps for 2014 when we're not even mid-way through February". It isn't a map for 2014. It is a map that summarizes the RWB report issued in 2014. Once they release it (which they have done), then its done for the year. Any changes that occur in the various countries in 2014 will be reflected in the RWB report that they will presumably issue next year (2015). So now all we need to do it to wait for enough information from RWB to accurately summarize their 2014 report and update our map. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 00:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * RWB has posted more 2014 information on their website, including a spreadsheet with ranks and scores for individual countries and a downloadable PNG file with a version of the world map that uses a different color scheme than their fancy online map that is available on the web site. The PNG map has a key. So with this additional information we can map the classifications from the RWB PNG map to the countries in the RWB spreadsheet and from that we can update the table in the article and the SVG map that we maintain on the Commons. It shouldn't be hard, but it will take a little bit of time to make sure we do it accurately. I'll try to do that over the next few days. --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 01:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Apologies, the link to the new info posted on the first page I dealt with (Freedom of the Press in Central Europe) was broken & only yielded a 404 page, so I only checked the source of the source's main page in order to establish whether anything had been changed: which reflected no changes. As noted on the main Freedom of the Press page, please ping me when the map is ready & I'll update info there as needed. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:49, 14 February 2014 (UTC)