File talk:Simplified Languages of Europe map.svg

The map of Turkey is completely ridiculous. What kind of sickening thoughts lie behind it? Turkish language is spoken in whole Turkey, not just the zone which is expressed with Sevres treaty -1920 and never applied Are you kidding with this map ? When you go to Antep, Diyarbakir, Van most of the population speak Turkish and also Kurdish but the major language is Turkish So the filename is Simplified_Languages_of_Europe_map if you simplify and omit the reality I SHOULD ASK: where is PROVENÇAL;OCCITAN;ROMANCE;BRETON;WALLON;GAGAUZ etc....

As it is written below Crimean Turkish, Karaim Turkish, Chuvash, Karachay and other languages are also omitted. which can not be simplified LIKE PROVENÇAL;OCCITAN;ROMANCE;BRETON;WALLON;GAGAUZ etc....

I think it is a different way of hiding the reality. May be a real reasearcher of linguistic should show the true map in textbooks

I hope it will guide you to consider images before to submission into public area

-- I don't know who draw this image but it is obvious that he/she doesn't know anything about 'Google'. Missing map missing information! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.105.170.108 (talk) 21:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.27.192.252 (talk) 14:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Tatar language and other langauges of en:Idel-Ural are omitted :(


 * The map failed to mention other moderate-sized minority linguistic groups, for example in France there are Breton in Brittany, Corsican in the island of Corsica and Occitan speaking regions (i.e. Aquitaine, Auvergnat, Lemosin, Midi-Pyrénées, Rhone-Alpes and Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur). It does accurately shown Flemish in the northernmost and Catalan in Languedoc-Roussillon of southernmost France, although the use of West Flemish in the Nord-Pas de Calais region has decreased over the last two centuries. The map only highlights official languages for each country or the minority language (if spoken by over half of the population) in any given region, but in the case of France almost the entire population is fluent in their respective country's official language being French. The map is accurate but I wanna point out the missing information on the Uralic Languages in the former Soviet Union (i.e Russia, Belarus and Ukraine), and furthermore on the Languages of France. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 02:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Lithuania/Belarus/Poland area
many poles live in the south-east areas of Lithuania, often making a majority, and there are also many Belariusians in north-western corner of poland. --Bezuidenhout (talk) 12:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

BiH
Borders between Croatian/Bosnian/Serbian are not shown in BiH... --Čeha (razgovor) 14:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Elsaessisch?
Why the missing German dialects in foreign nations? Despite the French Republic's hardest efforts, they are not a linguistically homogeneous nation.--JonnyLightning (talk) 23:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Serbo-Croatian with three names, but Romano-Moldavian with one???
If the map presents Serbo-Croatian language with its 3 politically created names as Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian (which is very anti-scientific), then the same should apply for Romanian/Moldavian and Catalan/Valencian languages, which also respectivelly present a same language with 2 politically created names. The map should either present the factual languages with their scientific names as Serbo-Croatian, Romanian, Catalan, or their politically created names as Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian, Romanian/Moldavian, Catalan/Valencian. That would be fair play. Cheers. 24.86.103.88 (talk) 05:50, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

There is NO such language as "serbo-croatian". The map needs to reflect the truth and show that Croatian is a seperate language from serbian. Correct the map.

Serbo-Croatian is ONE language, which exists and will exist as one and same language, despite all the nasty lies and non-sense that a few pathetic cro-nationalists like you try to infiltrate at wikipedia. Your propaganda of 'separate croatian' or 'separate bosnian' from 'serbian language' IS DEAD forever. Thanks God that every serious EU and world institution now accepts the fact that Serbo-Croatian language is ONE language with 3 politically created variants:-serbian, croatian and bosnian. Your miserable nationalistic propaganda is a BIG FAILURE and it was successfully defeated everywhere in the world, including these pages of wikipedia. This is what is killing you, but you'd better accept the truth and don't try to 'revive' your senseless 'theories' once again because they will be all defeated once again and again every time you try to spread them untill you definitelly cease to exist. And at the end, all offenses that you'll say to me or against these facts will be just worthless cries of desperation, nothing else. Cheers and Regards to wikipedia.207.216.132.157 (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Ossetian
Ossetian language is marked as turkic or caucasian. but it is iranian language.--Soslanx (talk) 18:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Languages in Spain
Funnily enough, Spanish is spoken throughout Spain, not just where this unfortunate map shows it. In places like the basque country it´s the predominant language by far, apart from being spoken with a high degree of correction. Cornelius. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.109.176.16 (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This should be fixed. --Belchman (talk) 21:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Idel-Ural and so on
Where are Tatar, Chuvash, Udmurt, Mari, Mordivicin languages? --Üñţïf̣ļëŗ ( see also: ә? Ә!) 16:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Irish language in Ireland
Oddly enough the Irish language is not spoken by the majority in most of the island of ireland. The latest revision should be reverted to indicate that areas of the Island where it is still spoken by a majority (though they are mostly bi-lingual in those areas anyway) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orathaic (talk • contribs) 18:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Lusatian, Polish, Swedish
This map contains very serious errors, apart those mentioned earlier. It ignores the substantial Swedish minority in southern Finland, the substantial Polish minority in eastern Lithuania/western Belarus, the Polish minority in the Czech Republic (Zaolzie) and the entire nation of Sorbs/Lusatians in south-eastern Germany, who speaks a Slavic language of their own. This erroneous map should be corrected, or best, deleted. Kiejstut9 (talk) 08:03, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Finnish and Sami
Not sure if they meet your requirements for this map. But you could look at the Kven language unlike the Forest Finns the Kven people still speak their own language. There's about 10 000 people that say they do anyway. Here is a map over the area where those languages as well as Estonian was spoken back in 1900 And here is a map of where you can find Kvenish place names today. This map (the top one) shows the different Sami languages in use in Norway, we have more then just one Sami language here you know ;-) Anyway, that's my two cent on that topic... I hope it's not just a waste of your time... Luredreier 12:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luredreier (talk • contribs)

Ladin
The Ladin people of northern Italy have been left out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.80.115.113 (talk) 03:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

German
German is the lang. of eastern Bel. It is not shown! The map of South Tyrolese German is not correct! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.80.115.113 (talk) 03:11, 25 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Completely Agree!
 * Southtyrolean is in a sense "German"! The issue is. In my Land "Southtyrol" we say we speak Southtyrolean, we say the Germans speak "German" (we mean Standardgerman)! 320luca (talk) 19:14, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Aromanian, Megleno-Romanian and Istro-Romanian
What happen to Aromanian, Megleno-Romanian and Istro-Romanian languages?--Codrin.B (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Sardinian
Sardinian language is missing--Dk1919 (talk) 11:37, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Map updates
Ok, I'm in the process of updating the map to account for what I believe is more accurate than before. I have a feeling that whoever previously was updating the map only has languages that are in the majority or plurality shown, and no overlapping. This might be why languages of like Breton and Sardinian are not shown.—SP E SH 531 Other  02:01, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps we need to change the approach of this map?
Europe is covered in minority languages coexisting with national languages. Deciding which language is 'more dominant', reinforces the marginalisation of these languages.

Also, Sicilian is missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paolorausch (talk • contribs) 20:53, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Updates needed on the East
I am not confident for marking the correct areas on the map and editing this format. Belarus is especially incorrect, there is almost no native Russian language areas in Belarus, but many speaking Russian as a home language- probably a stripped area is necessary. It seems that there is no as much as Ukrainian areas in European Russian localities according to the 2010 census as currently indicated. Look at the maps below. The map should be updated, it seems that details from the the maps below are not on the map --Nonemansland (talk) 05:37, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Note: no maps of Silesian language and Moravian language which consists of the plurality in parts of Poland and the Czech Republic. Also- there is no Romani language on the map. Look also at Demographics of Croatia article. Nonemansland (talk) 05:37, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

New talkpage
Please move future discussion of this file to commons, commons:File talk:Simplified Languages of Europe map.svg. --dab (𒁳) 11:06, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Turkish speaking region
Turkish speaking region is much larger than you have depicted. And the Kurdish speaking regions are not completely Kurdish speaking. Most of that region, people are also speak Turkish. Maybe it is better to update this. 31.143.52.60 (talk) 07:51, 16 January 2022 (UTC)