Help:Books/Feedback/Archives/2009/February

Proposal: Add a table of contents
Did you consider to add a table of contents at the first page of the PDF? I think this might improve usability of larger PDFs. --he!ko 15:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Bug: -tag not supported
It looks like the -tag is not supported (example). He!ko 16:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Saving bug?
My book just got saved to Category:Books instead of Category:Wikipedia:Books. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I added a request to change the configuration at the Administrators' noticeboard. --He!ko (talk) 21:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Difference?
What is the difference between Wikipedia talk:Books and this page? Mahalo. --Ali'i 21:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:Books discusses the content of that help page. This page deals with all other questions regarding this tool. --He!ko (talk) 21:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Orphan template
The orphan template is being included in the book. DuncanHill (talk) 01:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a list of templates that need to be added to Category:Exclude in print. Adding them (in this case Ambox) will solve the problem. --He!ko (talk) 05:29, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Non-internationalized messages
Sorry. Only after submitting this bug in Bugzilla, I noticed this page. Malafaya (talk) 14:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Contributor list missing
The list of contributors is missing from the Dungeons & Dragons article. Oddly enough, this is the only case I've found where the list is missing. --- RockMFR 20:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe related to the reference problem? -Drilnoth (talk) 20:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Lots of feedback
-- Patton t / c 23:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The article title appear at the top of all pages. this looks bad on the first page because there's a small title at the top and a much bigger title underneath. One of them needs to be removed from the first page.
 * Alternate text for images appears instead of the caption, including the "alt=" bit.
 * A lot of tables don't look anyhting like they do in the article
 * Because infoboxes are huge and pictures in them are right aligned they take up a tiny bit of the bottom left corner of the infobox image field, the rest is blank
 * images such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:North.svg which are basically tiny 17px icons with arrows on them show up HUGE, taking up whole pages and throwing hte text out of line.
 * For multiple articles in the same book the next article should always start a fresh page. Having the title at the bottom and no text then loads of text with no title on the next page isn't great.
 * External links show up as typed out URLs instead of being removed.
 * Please read the "How to report issues" section and split up your feedback. Thanks. --He!ko (talk) 12:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I have split them up and posted them on meta, however I urge you to read this and this; a procedural error made in posting anything is not grounds for invalidating that post, which it appears to be here and below.-- Patton t / c 13:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for posting them on meta! I didn't intend to invalidate your post but rather asked for your help to optimize it. --He!ko (talk) 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinates
When using coord with option "display=inline,title", style sheets generally place one set of coordinates on the top right corner of the screen and another one at the location of the template. In addition, coordinates in decimals are generated for microformat readers, but don't display on browsers. In the pdf version, this currently adds two sets of coordinates.


 * Sample (1): Ben Nevis and Ben Nevis pdf displaying "56°47′49.150″N 5°0′17.222″W56.79698611°N 5.00478389°W"

If the option "display=title" is used, the coordinates are added at the top of the page. The pdf version currently omits them.


 * Sample (2): Old Town, Edinburgh and Old Town, Edinburgh pdf

Ideally the title coordinates would be added in both version. The decimal/microformat version should be omitted as it's done in the print version. -- User:Docu
 * The template needs to be patched to remove the URL and the div that goes to the top of the page in printed versions. You can use Hide in print to selectively exclude content in printed versions. --He!ko (talk) 15:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * For (2), it already works as it should on Old_Town,_Edinburgh&printable=yes, but the coordinates are missing on Old Town, Edinburgh pdf.


 * For (1), Ben_Nevis&printable=yes displays just one set of coordinates. -- User:Docu


 * Oh I need to clarify something: The PDF generation is somewhat unrelated to the the MediaWiki HTML output as it uses its own parser and does not interpret CSS. You probably need to modify the template and check whether the PDF (not the HTML printable version) reflects the changes. --He!ko (talk) 18:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * What excludes the coordinates in (2)? -- User:Docu


 * Try to add Coord/display/title to Category:Exclude in print --He!ko (talk) 21:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * For (2) Old Town, Edinburgh pdf, the idea is to add them, as they are missing! Something must already suppress them compared to Old_Town,_Edinburgh&printable=yes, which displays them correctly. --- User:Docu

Problems with PDF rendering of books
I have tried out the new book feature and it's satisfying and indeed quite good, but not perfect. Some templates, like Geographic Location, pose big problems in reading the text (check out User:Admiral Norton/Books/Zagreb County sample book to see what I'm talking about). Admiral Norton (talk) 21:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This template is now excluded in print which should fix the problem. --He!ko (talk) 21:33, 28 February 2009 (UTC)