Help talk:Adding image/Archive 1

Edit request on 30 November 2011
I would like to add a profile photo.

File code is:



Thanks.

Rolyelliott (talk) 15:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Do not try to edit this page itself. Go to the page you want to add the image to and follow the instructions from this page. Anomie⚔ 17:40, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 June 2015
Please perform [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AJosve05a%2Fsandbox%2FHTML&type=revision&diff=668970747&oldid=668970635 this edit] to this page, with the reason being: "Fixing obsolete table attributes".

(t) Josve05a  (c) 23:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have the same observation that I made at Help talk:Starting editing. -- Red rose64 (talk) 08:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

iPad images
I am having trouble uploading images to this on my iPad can someone please tell me how. ChristineandErikY (talk) 15:12, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Adding image. To ask questions of this nature, we have the Help desk. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 17:03, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

darbhanga medical college and hospital
please update the picture of darbhanga medical college and hospital Dr.harshwardhan (talk) 08:47, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

How to add image
How to add image? Syed Shah Md Mahjujur Rahman (talk) 03:35, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The help page you are probably looking for is Help:Uploading images. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:08, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Obsolete page
This help page is obsolete. It assumes that the reader has arrived by clicking the link on a New user bar template and wants to upload a self-portrait on a user page. However, the Account Creation Improvement Project is marked ""historical" and no new user pages are formatted with that template. It is unfortunate that new editors are still finding this page. I would redirect it, but it is linked from the 56,000 user pages that were created with New user bar. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * (More) Of course, we could fix that by removing that part of the New user bar. That was suggested for other reasons at Template talk:New user bar -- John of Reading (talk) 06:15, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Question in Tamil
என்னுடைய கட்டுரைகளில் புகைபடங்களை இணைப்பது எப்படி? Esakkiraja292 (talk) 04:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The help page you are probably looking for is Help:Uploading images. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:19, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Putting images wikipedia
How to upload images in wikipedia Devendrakumarsanam (talk) 21:28, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

How to add images in wikipedia

Singhyash(nimit) (talk) 00:48, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
 * this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Adding image. To ask questions of this nature, we have the Help desk. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree Coltonwwe2k17 (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

I agreed Santa bir rana (talk) 15:17, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Upload photo and details
How Can I upload my photos and details Santa bir rana (talk) 15:16, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Adding image. To ask questions of this nature, we have the Help desk. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 20:48, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Upload image
Change the proper image of profile pic of id PHENOM (talk) 08:33, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Upload Ohmraj (talk) 07:25, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

How can I upload my picture Arafinkhan (talk) 13:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Adding image. To ask questions of this nature, we have the Help desk. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:41, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

How can I upload image Yashmodi9274 (talk) 07:13, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I want to use my own image on my page CardinalMcabeez (talk) 23:55, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I want to upload new photos of former indian footballer u sharaf ali s photo Anandmuraleekrishnakadungan (talk) 00:17, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

I want to update one picture
There is one Actor and writer named Vishnu Unnikrishnan the problem is the picture on his Wikipedia page is not his Ashik Jomon (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Adding image. It is not a place to ask for help: you should post your question at the help desk. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 20:37, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 23 April 2019
Please replace

with

(changing Special:MyPage/Sandbox to Special:MyPage/sandbox). Per Help:My sandbox, the default sandbox location is / s andbox, not / S andbox. This is the same change as was demonstrated in Special:Diff/892393179. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 23:23, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Cabayi (talk) 07:05, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Reasoning
I ended up here at random and I was confused about the purpose of this page, especially because of the heading in the imperative mood: "Upload an image that you own now." Looking at the history, that heading was changed in revision 963357787 and used to be: "Upload an image of yourself now." With the edit summary: "Changing wording to avoid the ridiculous impression that we are encouraging people to add photos of themselves for no valid purpose" Which made me more confused since the page also says "To add the image to your user page ..." and it's used in Template:New user bar, where the context is: "Click here to add an image of yourself (optional)." So it seems like that revision was done in error. This page actually is about adding an image of yourself. To be sure, I checked What links here and filtered by namespace to ignore all the user pages, but didn't see any other notable pages.

So, I'm requesting:

Change 1
from: Upload an image that you own now. to: Upload an image of yourself

Changing "that you own" to "of yourself" to clarify the purpose of this page.

As well, the period should be removed so that it's not in the imperative mood. Headings shouldn't be punctuated anyway.

Also, in my opinion, the "now" is unnecessary.

Change 2
from: This is how you add an image into Wikipedia: to: This is how you add your image into Wikipedia:

Since this page is specifically about adding an image of yourself.

This reverts revision 963357787, although without the phrasing "right into" since it's unnecessary in my opinion.

Further suggestion
Change the title of the page so that its purpose is clearer, like maybe "Adding an image to your user page".

By the way
The "grammar fix" in revision 466584262 actually made the grammar worse, so I'd suggest reversing it.

from: to create an account on Wikimedia Commons automatically, where Wikipedia's images are stored. to: to automatically create an account on Wikimedia Commons, where Wikipedia's images are stored.

I think that edit was done to avoid splitting an infinitive "to create", but it ended up splitting a parenthetical phrase "Wikimedia Commons, where ...". — W.andrea (talk) 01:33, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: There are at least two problems here. First, you have not shown consensus. Second, not all image uploads will be portraits of the uploader - in fact, few will be because Wikipedia is not Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Tiktok or any of the many other social networking sites that encourage you to submit selfies. Look at my uploads: not one of them depicts myself. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll get consensus first, thanks. I was thinking WP:BRD, but on second thought, that doesn't make sense for protected, high-profile pages. — W.andrea (talk) 20:11, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Clarifying the purpose of this page
It seems like the purpose of this page has gotten confused over time. I submitted an edit request, above, which lays out my arguments, but it was rejected since I didn't get consensus. In short, my point is that the page is intended to guide new users through uploading an image of themselves, but people have mistaken it for a general image uploading guide, and so edits to the page have made it confusing. Part of the problem is the ambiguous page title. What do you think?

I should also add, there's already a general image uploading guide.

Reply to previous comment
For completeness, I want to reply to this: not all image uploads will be portraits of the uploader - in fact, few will be because Wikipedia is not Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Tiktok or any of the many other social networking sites that encourage you to submit selfies. Look at my uploads: not one of them depicts myself. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC) That's totally missing my point. I'm saying, if you look at the context of this page linked from Template:New user bar, it's explicitly meant to encourage new users to submit a picture of themselves. "Click here to add an image of yourself (optional)." — W.andrea (talk) 20:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)