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Bengali IPA editing suggestion
জ which is /dʒ/ should also include /ɟ/ (it doesn't have to be a affricate; rather I'd say it is more a plosive than an affricate) ঝ which is /dʒ/ should also include /ɟʰ/ চ which is /tʃ/ should also include /c/ ছ which is /tʃʰ/ should also include /cʰ/ The second ones can be better. Reference: https://ipa.bangla.gov.bd/ipa_allignment this site has some mistakes but I think in case of জ, ঝ, চ, ছ atleast, they are right. Even if you reject my proposal please inform me; I'd look forward to know what happened. AbdunNafiAlif (talk) 05:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree with the first two, but in my opinion, চ and ছ are fine as they are 182.48.221.136 (talk) 19:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Input requested
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section that may be of your interest. Regards,-- Thinker78  (talk) 22:50, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Clarification on "ts" letters
I was looking at the IPA chart in the Hopi Dictionary and it says that the "ts" sound (voiceless alveolar affricate) in Hopi is transcribed in IPA as ts (with the "s" as a superscript). I haven't found ts on any other IPA charts, and it seems that the current chart uses t͡s instead. The dictionary was published in 1998, so perhaps that letter format is no longer used? I came across this while transcribing the pronounciation for Koyaanisqatsi. Was hoping for some clarification, thanks. – Dream out loud (talk) 08:14, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Here is a link to the page of the dictionary I'm referring to. You can "borrow" the book for free through the Internet Archive. – Dream out loud  (talk) 08:16, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think it ever was one of the alphabet's official ways to represent an affricate, but it is nonetheless seen, especially when the author wants to emphasize the frication is brief, allophonic, etc. Currently ⟨ts, t͡s, t͜s⟩ are the only official ways, so you were right to use ⟨t͡s⟩. Nardog (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks NARDOG! Love the name by the way... I'm actually in the middle of an episode of The Office as I'm writing this!  Anyway, would you be interested in working with me on creating the page Help:IPA/Hopi?  I started adding Hopi IPA to a few more articles, so maybe its own IPA help page would be benenficial?  I have the IPA chart from the 1998 Hopi Dictionary but I'm no liguistic expert and would like to find someone here who could help with that. – Dream out loud  (talk) 10:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Creating a new IPA key
Per a prior discussion, the language-specific Help:IPA pages for a number of languages were changed to simply redirect to this page. One of these languages was Kannada. I would like to bring back the Kannada-specific IPA key page, but I'm unsure how to go about doing this. In particular, if I just recover the page from the page's history logs, will all Wikipedia pages that use the IPA templates with the kn language parameter automatically redirect to Help:IPA/Kannada, or do I need to do something to make sure that happens? Brusquedandelion (talk) 00:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * After creating the key, request an edit to Module:IPA/data on its talk page to add the key. Nardog (talk) 00:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Malayalam IPA editing suggestion
ഉ which is /u/ should also include /ʊ/. I am only a student, but I think the latter is an allophone in many Malayalam dialects (e.g. pronunciation of ഉപ്പ്). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.46.133.227 (talk) 04:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)