Help talk:IPA/Afrikaans

Previous talk before split brought from Help talk:IPA for Dutch.

nasal ɑ̃ in Afrikaans
A nasal appears in the pronunciation given at Afrikaans - should it be included here? Lfh (talk) 15:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * We should indicate a nasalization diacritic rather than list any vowel that can be nasalized (I think it's all of them, but I'm not sure). — Æµ§œš¹  [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi]  16:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if we're not sure, let's wait until we have a source. Lfh (talk) 15:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll try to work on that. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 20:38, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

A few things missing?
There seem to be a few things missing, unless they are considered combinations of vowels we have represented already. I'll give them highlighted in their Afrikaans words: kraai (crow), baie (many, much, very), sê (say, tell), sneeu (snow), koei (cow), boikot (boycott), nooit (never). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.72.129 (talk) 10:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That's right - we've got to work on that.--Hooiwind (talk) 22:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Afrikaans IPA
I'm familiar with IPA, but I'm not sure if I can clearly describe the sounds in IPA, I'm willing to record some words/sounds if someone can transcribe them into IPA, would be very helpfull. An error I've already corrected was [ɛː] for sê (this is supposed to be [eː], or something similar). Servien (talk) 18:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Afrikaans vowel "o"
Would someone please re-check the Afrikaans vowel pronunciation for "o", because it's in the table as, while it's in both of these articles, Afrikaans and Comparison of Afrikaans and Dutch. Thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 12:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Accuracy of the way we transcribe Afrikaans
I'm kind of puzzled by apparent differences between: please do check it out, and please make a formant chart out of it and put it on Afrikaans phonology. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 12:15, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Northern Dutch and Afrikaans . Is the latter really a fricative?
 * Dutch and Afrikaans stressed .  to me seems too lax a symbol; I'd use  instead.
 * Dutch and Afrikaans . I think Northern Dutch  and Afrikaans  are about the same, in the  region.
 * Dutch and Afrikaans . Are they really distinct? If so, isn't Afrikaans  actually ?
 * Is really, not ?
 * I'm pretty sure is wrong, and  would be more correct.
 * If anyone has access to this paper:

An Afrikaans word "jury"?
In the column "Consonants" the word "jury" appears as if it is an Afrikaans word (which it is not): ʒ	jury	vision I think it would be better to use a word such as "genre" here, with the "g" in bold, to approximate the "si" sound in the English "vision". Mieliestronk (talk) 14:38, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Recent changes
These changes by evaded our scrutiny, and it seems they are now reflected in some transcriptions in articles. Should we revert them? (cc ) Nardog (talk) 03:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know enough about Afrikaans to know which version is correct. — Æµ§œš¹  [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 15:28, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * (Sorry for the delay). Maybe you should check and see for yourself. I'd rather not touch Afrikaans transcriptions. I know that the usual phonemic transcription of Afrikaans is vastly different from how it's actually pronounced (i.e. the most appropriate phonetic symbols), kinda like Danish. The phonemic mid vowels are a mess, e.g. what is transcribed  in usual phonemic transcription is  in actual pronunciation (though unstressed  is closer to a short, AFAICS (see Lass (1987)) - another complication).
 * Perhaps, based on Wissing descriptions, we ought to revise the way we transcribe Afrikaans, both phonemically and phonetically. What do you say? Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 07:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Frankly I'm not interested in reviewing the entire set of symbols at the moment; I'm just asking if the changes made by the IP were in any way well founded. We can't possibly review an entire key every time an inexperienced editor makes a bold edit to it, can we?
 * And here comes making yet other undiscussed changes. I'm too tired to revert them or explain the process.  If you're not, please do. Nardog (talk) 13:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)