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Palatalization
I'm a little uncertain about our note on palatalization. I think we need to explain how $⟨c g⟩$ have different pronunciations, and these are only sometimes marked. It's complicated because they represent many different phones, if you include the cluster $⟨sc⟩$:. It's a mess to an uninitiated person, and hard to describe simply.

Maybe this table makes sense of the situation phonologically: — Eru·tuon 04:29, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Brainstorming on what notes should look like:


 * In some modern texts, the letters $⟨ċ ċġ sċ⟩$ are written with a dot above the letter, as $⟨ġ⟩$, when they represent postalveolar or palatal sounds, and without the dot, as $⟨n⟩$, when they represent velars. This is a modern convention, and the two pronunciations were not distinguished in Old English manuscripts.


 * Palatalized $⟨k g sc⟩$ or $⟨c g⟩$ represents . Doubled palatalized $⟨ċ ġ⟩$ or $⟨c g⟩$ represents.


 * The digraph $⟨c⟩$ or $⟨ċ⟩$ always represents the doubled postalveolar, as in eċġ . This developed from the doubled palatal or from.


 * Palatalized $⟨cc⟩$ or $⟨ċċ⟩$ represents the palatal approximant in most cases, but the postalveolar  after a nasal. For doubled, see the note on $⟨cg⟩$.
 * ġeong
 * senġan


 * Unpalatalized $⟨ċġ⟩$ is pronounced as a velar fricative after a vowel or liquid, but as a velar stop  in other cases, such as at the beginning of a word:
 * dagas "days"
 * burgum "castles"
 * gang


 * The cluster $⟨g⟩$ is usually palatalized $⟨ġ⟩$ and pronounced as postalveolar . Unpalatalized is rare.

I'll work these into the table soon. — Eru·tuon 21:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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