Help talk:IPA/Taiwanese Hokkien

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Help talk:IPA which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 16:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Move to Hokkien
I understand this help page is based on the standard Kaohsiung accent ("通行腔") adopted in the existing Hokkien music and television industry. The issue is that the current "Taiwanese" prefix implies other Hokkien dialects do not fit the key of this page, which is not the case. The current page actually structures itself to take into account the dialectal variation in Quanzhou and Zhangzhou. Hence, the current page is well-positioned to be moved to the new title Help:IPA/Hokkien. I understand there are lexical differences among standard Kaohsiung, Quanzhou and Zhangzhou, but their phonology could be managed by one key. As Taylor (2008) put it, -- love.wh  13:05, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Directing nan code here
Currently, the ISO 639-3 code for Min Nan "nan" is being undesirably shared among the dominant Min Nan variety Hokkien and two minor Min Nan varieties Teochew and Hainanese. Wikipedia is being disproportionately "equal" by denying all three varieties the "nan" hyperlink and hence unhelpfully directing to the generic Help:IPA key, which has no Min Nan vocabulary examples or footnotes whatsoever. A much better disambiguation model is to direct to at least one of the Min Nan varieties. The dominant variety, Hokkien, seems most appropriate. I am calling for "nan" to be directed to this page. If and when IPA/Teochew and IPA/Hainanese keys are to be created in the future, IPA/Hokkien (nan) should leave a header alerting readers the existence of those two keys in case editors mistakenly use "nan" for Teochew/Hainanese and end up on IPA/Hokkien. -- love.wh  13:27, 12 November 2023 (UTC)