Help talk:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/1/Archive 1

Edit request on 22 January 2013
Edited to explain as requested: There is an image on a Wikipedia webpage (see below) and a wikicommons webpage (see below) which has been taken from my own website without acknowledgement or permission. I want the image to be removed, unless acknowledgemnt is made of its owner and source

The image DSCN9172.JPG featuring in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimalnath and also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jain_Vimalnath.jpg is mine, it was taken from my website which has on its homepage that all images and text are copyright - and this copyright belongs to me. It was taken from my weboage http://www.indianminiaturepaintings.co.uk/Jain_Vimalnath_190w.html. I will give permission for it to continue to be published on these two webpages on condition acknowledgement of its owner and source is given - i.e Peter Blohm of www.indianminiaturepaintings.co.uk. I can be contacted vis my website or by the following email address:


 * Since the image is hosted at Wikimedia Commons, the proper page to make this request would be the Wikimedia Commons help desk. However, my understanding of the position is that you have not acquired a copyright in the image, because taking the photograph did not add any creative input to the original work. This is set out more clearly at commons:Commons:2D copying. I may be wrong; please post at the Commons help desk for a second opinion. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:43, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Pointer to related discussion at MediaWiki talk:Edittools
See MediaWiki talk:Edittools for a discussion that has suggested linking this page, instead of the "Sign your posts on talk pages: ~ " instructions, when editing in Mainspace. –Quiddity (talk) 03:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 October 2013
ADD THE FOLLOWING Over the years variants of this mathematical framework have also been referred to as hypernumbers, hyperdata, hypercube, and hypercompression.

206.217.95.66 (talk) 17:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done:. I'm wondering if you've come to the wrong page. This is the talk page for Help:Introduction to referencing/1. The text you've offered seems irrelevant to it. --Stfg (talk) 18:25, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2014
Dear Sir or Madam Sources : Attestation : In the Wikipedia page about my great oncle the artist Ernst Rudolf Vogenauer (1897-1972) all the informations about his "early life" and "career" are quite right. These informations and CV, that I wrote myself for wikipedia, come directly from our private family archives (state certificates and chronicle of the Vogenauer family by my other great oncle Gottfried Vogenauer written in 1955*, and are not extracted not from a german  paper or article. As I am a french lady and also an old lady, I do not know very well how to provide informations for Wikipedia, so I would like you to help me,  to confirm these informations about early life and career of my great oncle in the page.

With a lot of thanks and my best wishes 2014. Sincerely yours

E.Caubet-Bachem (born Erika Bachem, great niece of Ernst Rudolf Vogenauer Bayonne in France -2014 January 22th.

NB : * Gottfried Vogenauer was a brother of my great oncle Ernst Rudolf Vogenauer and of my grand-ma Babette Vogenauer spouse Bachem, and of Andreas Vogenauer, all children of the Vogenauer-Haenni family

Erika64FR (talk) 14:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Introduction to referencing/1. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. I see you have made the same request at the help desk, which is better than here. You have already gotten some responses there. --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 07:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2014
Please, change the SM City Tarlac logo to its new look

SMCity Tarlac (talk) 08:50, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

❌ This is not the place to make such a request - please do this on the talk page of the relevant article, furthermore, it cannot be done until you have uploaded the file. Please see Uploading images - Arjayay (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2014
Sun11set0 (talk) 01:31, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2015
hi how to be the best editor for this site

Sayedabass (talk) 18:00, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Brave Festival
Hello! May I ask someone to check my edits for Brave Festival's page? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brave_Festival&action=submit I was also responsable for editing of Polish version of that article, so all information are verified. Thank you in advance! Paulina Anna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulina Anna (talk • contribs) 09:54, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2015
Hello To Jonas Nordin PhD about "elector Bibel" You wrote :"The earliest known edition to haves survived to day is the Detmold edition printed in 1649

I have an edition printed in 1641

I can send you front page.if you give me an email adress

This Bibel was a "family Bibel" buyd in 1902 or 1912 ?

The Bibel was in a littel town North "Elsass" near Strasbourg

Ourr family is Lutherian of the "confession d'Augsbourg"

Sincerely

Claude HERRMANN

chezclh@orange.fr 90.12.184.95 (talk) 11:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2016
Citation for my edit of "no overshoot" for the time response of a Bessel filter: Feedback Control of Dynamic Systems, 3rd Ed. Franklin, Powell, et al. pg 508, bottom: "For those applications where overshoot must be avoided altogether, we can consider the Bessel filter.." GGregW (talk) 19:22, 1 March 2016 (UTC) To suggest a change, please request this on the talk page of the relevant article in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:34, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ as you are in the wrong place, since this page is only to discuss improvements to Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/1.

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2016
Langa and Mangania -hrs are same as far as Music is concern. Langa (Langana =Marriage in Gujarati) and (Mangani= engagement before marriage,in Urdu) The Manganihar (Mangani has another meaning in Gujarati and Kutchi Languages.It is 'Demand')

Langa are people speaking Kutchi language and living in Kutch region on and near Coastal area of Kutch state of Western Gujarat,now) they are playing musical instruments same like Iran and Afghanistan.As they lived near regions of Sindhu River and Aryan areas of Pakistan, Near Afghanistan and Iran. They seems having Music system of Aryans. The Aryan loved Music and as there were many small small Kingdom established by many kings.It seems they adopted Nomadic unsettled life and settled life where they had job in Kings courts.Many preferred Public performance when they could not find court job and settlement for family. Kutch villages have atleast one house of Langa Community family who is called to Perform in marriage or festival of Hindu people or others in the village. They can be called 'Orchestra of Old time' Rajsthan,Sindh,Kutch are the places where they are settled and it seems as Aryan people came from Area of Sindhu,which starts from Mansarovar lake in Tibet and Dry Himalya desert.The musical instruments are made from animal skins and air musical instruments indicates that they where connected to Shepherd like tribes of Grassy plains.As Aryans came with Cows and Horses and considered Shepherds like tribes who became kings and developed their kingdoms near Lakes and rivers where their wealth,cattels can be kept.their wealth. Langa This shows that Langa of Kutch and Sindh and Manganiars of Rajsthan and Pakistan regions were Shepherds. Manganiars speak Rajsthani language called Marwari and Langa speaks Kutchi and Sindhi of Southern Desert area,near Arabian sea coastal area. They call themselves Hindu Rajputs converted to Islam,which shows that like Yadavas of North India( Shepherds) who are considered one branch of Aryan..seems Positive claim. Most Of the Aryan settled in places below Himalya's South where most of the rivers flowed to Arabian Sea. As they are preferring plains to protect their cattels wealth from Jungle scavengers. It is believed that Most of the Hindu Gods or Bhagvan born in Shatriyas or Rajput (who call themselves Aryan) same way most of the Prophets were born in Shepherd Communities.

Langa are musical people and most are in Kutch's southern side,in villages near Arabian sea. The ending point for most of the rivers starting from Himalya and where most of the Rajput people stayed as rulers afterward and as Shepherds of Horses,Cows etc.

Langa have many famous musical talents like Master Kasam Abdula Saraiaya of Suthri,Coastal village in Abdasa district of Kutch.Born there and died,buried in Bahuj;Kutch(Langa Community head of Kutch) who was Manager of H.M.V. Gramaphone Co.UK.in Mumbai,India. For recording of Urdu Qawalis,Sufi Songs,Gazals during 1960-70 and recorded Legendary Playback Singer Mohamad Rafi Sahab,Mahendra Kapoor, and many Qawals like Yususf azad,Aziz Nazan,Ismail Azad etc. With Gujarati singer Ibrahim Bhagat,Dharamshi Raja,Hemu Gadavi etc. Any many Marathi Singers also. Mami Bachu (Langa Fakir Md.Bachu Khiyar of Dumra village of Kutch.his Son In Law,composed them and can be searched on 'Google search engine for the records and singers etc.) composed them as Music Director. These both Langa Community People played Legendary role in Modern era music. Most of Langa are not doing music and are in some other profession like Pilot,Engg. Interior Architect etc.Many families are settled in the U.K. And Kenya. Most of them are active in Mumbai,India as Singers or musicians.Playing in Hindu festival of Gujarati called Navratri. Google is mentioning they can be connected to Kalbelian tribes but though many do same profession,does not mean they are related.Another region is that like Manganiars of Rajsthan they do not allow performance of lady member and does not perform dance in public or royal courts. Many performed in courts and royal marriages and festivals in Royal family.Make Langa bit different in performance. Langa of Kutch Mr.Suleman Jumma was awarded medal by Indian President Gyani Jailsingh for his contribution to Indian North west Folk music and his expertise in playing Nagara (Two 1 feet dia. Drums like bowls and kept in expanded 'V' shape and played with 2 bit curved round sticks) which are been played at the entrance of Royal court with another playing Wind instrument called Sahenai or Flute.

Mami Anjarwala (Famous Sahenai Player) a blind musician,Ramju bhai Narainsarovarwala,Iqbal Abdula Sariya are famous Punjabi Drum players. Abdula Saraiya of Suthri village was famous Tabla player in H.M.V.

Contact;S.M.Yusuf (Son Of Mami Bachu) 9833016701

Fakir Md.Khavra (Langa Chief,Bhuj

Kutch.9913620008 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.S.M.Yusuf (talk • contribs) 12:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2016
175.101.99.10 (talk) 03:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2015
I live in and work as a musician in Nashville Tn. He was a Varsity Basketball player in Dayton, OH. https://twitter.com/cjdorn

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2018
179.192.2.17 (talk) 17:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2018
Qamar2861 (talk) 17:59, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Dear Management,

Kindly let me add my personal file here. Thanks
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2018
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2019
Please change The 1988 film Vice Versa featured Malice in a concert sequence, filmed in Champaign, IL, performing "Crazy In The Night" to

The scene was shot in Chcago. 174.82.231.253 (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2020
I am the Owner/ operator of Blind Illusion. I am correcting mistakes and disinformation, Mark Biedermann (talk) 04:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
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mo soumareh is a manchester united player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.69.228.66 (talk) 10:35, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

McNeely Foundry
A McNeely bell is located at The First Congregational Church, United Church of Christ in Ledyard, CT dated 1849.≥—Jim sorensen (talk) 17:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC)Jim Sorensen Jim sorensen (talk) 17:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC) Reference "History of the First Congregational Church, United Church of Christ in Ledyard, CT 1725-1975"

Jim sorensen (talk) 17:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2014
This village also have an Engineering college name Chalapathi Institute of Technology.

173.24.145.7 (talk) 06:09, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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Named reference
I'm editing a small article that needs better citations. A reference cited early in the article ought to be cited again later on. It was not originally given a "ref name" so I tried to add  at the beginning of its reference. The hope is that this would allow me to use a "Named reference" in the ref list, but now I'm getting citation error problems. I'm going back to copy/paste the whole reference, but I'd like to know how add ref names to existing references from time to time if possible -- and can't find instructions about updating existing references such as I describe.

Thanks, GeeBee60 (talk) 00:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Neeever mind, I figured it out. (wheee!) FYI:  begins a reference the same as except the reference name is added, I misread the coding thought I needed both  and, I didn't. GeeBee60 (talk) 03:58, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Comments
I would like to assert that the Wikipedia policy on reliable sources is not viable for certain types of content. One example of many is the field of open-source software.

In many cases, the source of authority for an open-source project will be the author/creator of the software. That author, and also avid supporters, will not have any published work that falls into the categories of " ...university textbooks, books published by respected publishing houses, magazines, journals, and mainstream newspapers..." Many examples abound, one that just popped into my mind after I decided to post this, is the Classic Shell project. [].

I just reviewed the Classic Shell Wikipedia page, and it has not a single reference to " ...university textbooks, books published by respected publishing houses, magazines, journals, and mainstream newspapers..." Yet, it is a very accurate and complete Wikipedia page. Must we wait for some university-Prof to write a scholarly paper on Classic Shell (a paper that will be outdated the moment it is published) to satisfy Wikipedia?

Wikipedia needs to wake up and realize that as we move toward the middle of the 21st century, a 20th century definition of "Reliable Source" is not going to serve us well for all fields of study. $tephen T. Crye (talk) 22:45, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Then what would you suggest? From my point of view, any definition will have flaws and areas where it doesn't work perfectly. Ironholds (talk) 13:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I would stress that a reliable source does not have to be university texts, books from respected publishers, and so forth; those are merely examples of the types of sources that are usually the best. As long as you've got a source that fair, generally-educated readers would largely consider authoritative, you are usually okay. Scholarly essays, highly-established newspapers and such are again just examples of the sources that usually best fit these criteria. NTox · talk<l 18:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2017
Americo "Rico" Alviti is the real founder, he never got paid, the business was never paid for, Alviti is still alive in Revere Mass 2600:8805:B000:3890:BD20:99B4:A264:FB06 (talk) 04:28, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2015
Ribadiyarajendra (talk) 09:39, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

If you want to suggest a change to that page, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Given the nature of this page, you will also need to reach consensus before any significant changes are implemented. - Arjayay (talk) 10:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ as you have not requested a change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to Help:Introduction to referencing/5.

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2018
Evebeg492 (talk) 12:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2019
Ournewindia (talk) 09:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Mr. Nitin Tayade, IIM Calcutta Pass out, grandson of freedom fighter.
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