Help talk:Notifications

HELP
MY NOTIFICATIONS BELL HAS A ONE ON IT BUT WHEN I CLICK ON IT NOTHING NEW SHOWS UP. THE ONLY THINGS SHOWING UP ARE PAST MESSAGES! Justyouraveragelechuga talk 17:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
 * YOU PROBABLY GOT A NOTIFICATION ON ANOTHER WIKI. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS CAPITALIZATION. C LYDE  TALK TO ME / STUFF DONE  (please OOUI icon userAdd-ltr.svg mention me on reply) 23:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I am seeing the same thing as Justyouraveragelechuga (thanks for your reply). How would I find whatever other wiki might have triggered the notification, and how would I interact with it to remove the "1"? Also, I don't recall making another account elsewhere. Was one created automatically? If so, why? Was there perhaps a "create accounts in all these wikis" box I might have checked or left checked?

Wikidata and Simple English Wikipedia View 2 alerts". If you click on the "View 2 alerts" it will expand to provide further entries. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:14, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, as best I can see, both my "Your alerts" bell and my "Your notices" in-tray appear to link to the same URL, Special:Notifications. I wonder if that's normal? If so, then what is the difference between both icon-links, and why do we have both? (It's not a ¿Por qué no los dos? in-joke, or is it?) I do note that they don't both have the "1", so apparently their subscripted counter state can differ. Curiouser and curiouser. ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 04:43, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Whilst the ultimate link is to Special:Notifications, clicking the icon (not the link) triggers some Javascript that filters what Special:Notifications returns. The two icons apply fifferent filters, so should return different results. Try both. One (or both) of them may have an entry in the list showing text like "More alerts from 2 other wikis
 * I do not see different results between clicking on the in-tray or bell. I also do not see anything like "More alerts from other wikis". I have found a setting "Cross-wiki notifications – Show notifications from other wikis" in Preferences, and disabling that makes the "1" disappear. Re-ticking it brings back the "1". I do use the vector (NOT 2022) layout, which is essentially the reason I made this account. I may have modified some Global Preferences during or shortly after account creation, but I am unable to find anything that looks like it might have triggered this behaviour – which increasingly looks like a CSS bug. Am I in the right place asking for help with that? Should this be reported elsewhere? Justyouraveragelechuga's testimony suggests this is not just me, and that the issue is possibly reproducible in certain conditions, but I don't know the precise steps that would be required for others to reproduce the misbehaviour. I suppose one of the steps might be, you'd have to trigger an unread message from another wiki, but I don't know how to do that. Perhaps one way to try and reproduce might be to make a new account and then do what I did, which so far hasn't been very much. I see Justyouraveragelechuga has 598 edits as of this writing, so that's not a new account, meaning the bug is possibly not simply linked to that. Is there some other common factor? It can't be too common, or else this thread would be overrun by hundreds of users screaming about the same thing. ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 09:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll mention you at meta:, which should bump the counter on the bell icon. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 10:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Huh. Son of a gun. It did. It now says "2". So what does that mean, and where do I go from here? ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 12:05, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Your account is automatically created at Wikimedia wikis if you view any page while logged in. Special:CentralAuth/ReadOnlyAccount shows your accounts. If you visit each wiki then maybe you can see a notification when you hit the right wiki. Maybe it's the welcome message at fr:Discussion utilisateur:ReadOnlyAccount. I don't know why you don't see "More alerts from other wikis" here. It works for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. Can the Special:CentralAuth/ReadOnlyAccount page be found and navigated to in some way that does not rely on users already knowing that URL or being told it and bookmarking it? Is that URL (or each user's version of it) linked and listed somewhere, so people can actually find and reach it on their own? Is it at all discoverable?
 * I will note that automatic account creation elsewhere because I sign up here does not follow the principle of least surprise even if that's maybe mentioned in some red-tapey terms and conditions somewhere for legal CYA. This also sounds like a pretty CATCH-22ish quandary: I don't know what triggered the notification, and I cannot click through and see the notification. I could browse to random non-enwp wikis to see if it's maybe visible there, but you're effectively, implicitly saying visiting random wikis might trigger more unsolicited account creation with MORE notifications(!). If that's not usability hell or at least UI Design by Kafka™, then I don't know what is. No offence. I especially don't mean to have a go at helpful you, and I don't know whether or where else this oughta be reported, but I do know that this seems crazy to me. LSD-driven development, anyone?
 * Like I mentioned above, I do of course realise that the "More alerts from other wikis" thing seems to work for most people, and that the bug only affects a subset of users. But I also know I'm not alone, because I'm not the original reporter – rather, when I came here to report this, I did find Justyouraveragelechuga had just done that. ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 13:46, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The English Wikipedia is one of the Wikimedia projects run by the Wikimedia Foundation. The projects have separate logs but a unified login system. I was here before that system and it's a great improvement. Before, you had to manually create an account everywhere of interest, e.g. another Wikipedia language, and choose a username and password. Your normal username might already be taken there. Passwords could be different at each project. "Contributions" (may be in a user icon menu at the top right depending on your preferences) goes to a page with links to your Special:CentralAuth page, both near the top on "global accounts" and at the bottom on "accounts". Going to other Wikimedia projects to look for a notification is definitely not how it's intended to work but was merely a suggestion when the intended method apparently fails for you for some reason. Maybe it would work in another browser. At least you only have 6 accounts. Special:CentralAuth/PrimeHunter shows 376. I thankfully never had to go through them to look for something. Special:CentralAuth/ReadOnlyAccount only shows accounts which have already been created so you will not create additional accounts or trigger more notifications by going there. At Special:SiteMatrix you could create around 1000 local accounts by clicking links. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:40, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, so, wait, if I understand correctly, then I can not only safely go to Special:CentralAuth/ReadOnlyAccount but also can safely click on any of the links under "List of local accounts" w/o triggering more notifications? That's... not quite as kafkaesque. Still at best a workaround to buggy behaviour, but not really a CATCH-22 like I thought.
 * Thanks for explaining how to find my Global account information page. Once you know where to click, Contributions – global accounts is just two degrees of Kevin Bacon.
 * I still don't know exactly what the common factor is that I have in common with Justyouraveragelechuga and that causes people like us to not see the "More alerts from other wikis" thing (or a difference between the in-tray and the bell). I have also encountered more Notifications bugginess, but reporting that would probably require uploading some screenshots somewhere. Would it be appropriate to upload screenshots to Wikipedia purely for bug reporting? Not saying that I will get around to it, but I might.
 * The Special:SiteMatrix thing looks wild. What does it mean if links are struck out or red, respectively? Is that explained anywhere? ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 15:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * See Bug reports and feature requests. Phabricator has its own system to attach a file to a bug report. What is your browser? Does it have JavaScript enabled? Have you tried another browser? Red at Special:SiteMatrix means non-existing, i.e. that project doesn't have a wiki in that language. Strikethrough means closed. There may still be visible pages but the wiki cannot be edited and you cannot log in or create an account. See more at mw:Extension:SiteMatrix. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Alerts
I haven't gotten any red bell alerts in about 24 hours, even though I saw someone undoing my edits, and I also believe someone tried to ping me but I did not get an Alert for that either. I checked my preferences and it doesn't look like anything changed there. Could someone ping me to see if I get an Alert? Also, any idea what could be going wrong? BOZ (talk) 15:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I just got a ping now, so maybe that was only temporary. BOZ (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Edit request
In the source, please change:

to: so that the template names would be links in the rendered page. Thanks. 2A0D:6FC2:6A90:4D00:0:0:0:5F9 (talk) 20:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Done. (I was looking for something else, but it was an easy enough edit, especially the way you presented it.) ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 03:04, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Is there a way to display more notifications than fifty (or to search them)?
Greetings and felicitations. I'm looking for a (probably) pre-2017 notification. Is there a way to display more notifications than fifty at a time, or to search old notifications? I have a decent idea of what I am looking for, but not one for searching this page's archives (I browsed this page, and pages 7 and 8 of the archives, but as yet to no avail). —DocWatson42 (talk) 03:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @DocWatson42 Unfortunately not. It's still 50 at a time, since your & I's last discussion about it at T203632. And whilst there's interest in building a search (T132804) it hasn't been done yet (and I suspect would be relatively high-effort?).
 * Tangentially, I'm reminded of "Zawinski's Law of Software Envelopment, also known as Zawinski's Law, states: Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can." -- Which doesn't help you, but does hint at the explanation about why complex features like this don't exist in every tool!
 * I hope that helps a bit, if only to save you time digging through talkpage archives here. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and I'm sorry that I forgot that I've brought it before—I'm glad you remembered. :-) —DocWatson42 (talk) 02:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Late followup: Just FYI, I didn't remember either! I outsource my memory to computers, hence my love for wikis! I only remembered after I searched for any existing related tasks, and found our old discussion there. :-) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Unsubscribed from a notification. How do I delete previous notifications from that talk page?
I contributed to a talk page that had a huge amount of responses to a proposal in one section of that talk page. Then I subscribed. Then I started receiving dozens of notifications about that section of that page, so I unsubscribed from the notification.

I'm still left with about 30 notifications that I received during the time I subscribed. It's a lot of clutter that I don't need or want. Please advise. Thanks in advance. Ajk1962f (talk) 04:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)