Help talk:Wikitext

Strikethrough section
Did that escape your attention? The template is merely a convenience. Paradoctor (talk) 02:45, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, yes, but that doesn't really change anything. The Strikethrough section was about the strikethrough template, with the mention of being just an easy to overlook implementation detail.  And the problem with having a section about  is that templates aren't part of wikitext so  doesn't deserve a section in this article.
 * Having said that, I no longer care that much. If no one else chimes in, feel free to put it back.  Though I reserve the right to do a more comprehensive rewrite some other time. Dan Bloch (talk) 03:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Noted. Paradoctor (talk) 04:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Danbloch: No one chimed. Paradoctor (talk) 04:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Special characters
This section shows HTML character entities but it does not show templates, e.g., = (=), ! (|), all, and(🇦🇩), euro (€), exist , not , pi ($\pi$), times. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 16:33, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

&amp;nbsp; two pass vs. one pass
The article should mention why using &amp;amp;nbsp; is more reliable than just &amp;nbsp; Jidanni (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Preview broken
I added this H:WT and when I hover over it, it says "There is an issue displaying this preview." I'd fix it, but I forget where the preview is. Is it in the "short description"? --David Tornheim (talk) 01:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Wikitext, it is not a help forum.
 * Anyway, the short description is nothing to do with page previews. The preview is pulled from the text of the lead section of a page by JavaScript. I may be wrong, but I think that it only works for articles. Your shortcut is in article space, so it's attempting to start the page previews script; but the redirect target is in Help: space, not an article. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't think this was a help forum. LOL. That it gives an error with the preview seems to me to be a bug, not a mistake on my part for using the shortcut.  Since the preview error is associated with this page, I reported it here.  Can you suggest a better place to report the error?  WP:Village_pump_(technical), perhaps? Incidentally,WP:Village_pump_(technical) does not give an error when I hover over it. --David Tornheim (talk) 09:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:Village_pump_(technical) isn't an article, so Page Previews is not triggered, so there won't be any error. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 09:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Help:Wikitext is not an article either. And this isn't article space, right?  Yet the preview is broken for it, but not for WP:Village_pump_(technical).
 * Weird, Help:Wikitext doesn't break. Only the shortcut H:WT.
 * And the short cut WP:RS doesn't give an error either. So it appears to be a problem with the shortcut.
 * H:YFA and H:FIRST also break. So it appears to be a problem with all shortcuts starting with "David Tornheim (talk) 09:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The thing is that H:WT, although not an article, is in article space: you can tell because its [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:WT&action=info Page information] shows "Namespace ID 0" - the list of namespace numbers is here. The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "H:". It's not a problem for WP:RS because it's in Wikipedia space: you can tell because its [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WP:RS&action=info Page information] shows "Namespace ID 4", and also "Namespace Wikipedia". The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "WP:". -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Redrose64 said "The preview is pulled from the text of the lead section of a page by JavaScript". That only applies to "Navigation popups" which can be enabled at Special:Preferences. "There was an issue displaying this preview" comes from the default preview feature mw:Page Previews which works differently. It's configured to only work with mainspace links. "H" is not a namespace alias so H:WT is a mainspace page. "There was an issue displaying this preview" is displayed on all redirects from mainspace to other namespaces, e.g. MOS:DATE. The message is made by MediaWiki:Popups-preview-no-preview. We could change it to be more informative but I suspect it's a general message used in other situations than cross-namespace redirects. Page Previews knows in advance that the wikilink Help:Wikitext is not in mainspace so it doesn't try to display anything for a direct link like that. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I have tested (test deleted) at testwiki:MediaWiki:Popups-preview-no-preview whether wikitext is parsed in the message. It's not so we cannot do anything to give different text depending on circumstances. That would have to be requested at . PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)