MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/December 2008

=Proposed additions=

watchindia.tv
This site is continuously being added, I have removed it on past ocassions and was added as recently as earlier today. ChiragPatnaik (talk) 04:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we have some IPs/users who are placing this please. Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 18:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ChiragPatnaik (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ChiragPatnaik (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ChiragPatnaik (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ChiragPatnaik (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks - problematic I agree. Reflecting & looking to list.  If they do place the link again once the block expires request blocking & I will link for sure.  Regards -- Herby  talk thyme 19:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

? MER-C 01:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I see no subsequent link additions. in case they return. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 03:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now monitored by XLinkBot. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 03:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

oldunreal.com


Accounts that have re-added the link:

Links to this website have been repeatedly added by IPs to the Unreal article since the beginning of July when the article was cleaned up. In addition, the following users are the site owners/contributors:



They have participated in discussions on Talk:Unreal, in which they are not shy about admitting that they asked people from the website to come to sway opinion on Wikipedia. I've already given them ample policy reasons to stop adding the link, firstly because of WP:SPAM, which I believe is justified because the content of the website is not significant enough to meet the requirements of WP:V -- it is not documented by secondary sources. The website's proponents (who are all either from the website itself or related community sites who couldn't help but leave their own URLs also) argue that the usefulness or popularity of the website justifies inclusion, but again there is no objective evidence that the website is either of these things. They have continually reiterated OR-based arguments despite being told, repeatedly, that OR is not allowed on WP, and they apparently refuse to read or accept established policies, believing their own case to be exempt. In some cases the visitors have also vandalized the article, used article space to make personal attacks, or overwritten official game information with information about their own mod. I believe it is an attempt to promote the website or its work on Wikipedia. Ham Pastrami (talk) 01:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note this off-Wikipedia thread:
 * Wikipedia - Oldunreal needs some voices it seems page 1
 * Wikipedia - Oldunreal needs some voices it seems page 2


 * and this vandalism.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Before any decision is made here, we should get some consensus among established editors. I have left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games asking for comments. I suggest centralizing the conversation at Talk:Unreal. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that oldunreal.com is not a reliable source, but I'm not sure if a spam blacklist addition is the right way to go here as it's only being added on a single page. In this instance it might be better to request page protection for a short while. Hope this helps,  Gazi moff  11:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

? MER-C 01:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * On reviewing this, I see things got worse, culminating in a threat to conjure up an army of angry meatpuppets to spam Wikipedia.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

searchmycampus.com
I have reverted most of the spam adds by the above IP for searchmycampus.com. IP blocked for 24hrs. They may add the link again. Please blacklist the website --  Tinu  Cherian  - 08:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not as far as I am concerned. I'd rather see what happens after the block expires. If they do repeat it then it should be blacklisted but blacklisting is a last resort. Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 09:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok no issues.Considering the style of contribs of the this IP editor, they are likely to try again. Anyways let us wait for the block expire. I reported this here as it was a big pain reverting these all the large scale additions of this website.--  Tinu  Cherian  - 09:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I kinda agree but AGF for now I think. With rollback it only takes a moment?  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 10:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

? MER-C 01:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Tracking link: http://sss.searchmycampus.com


 * in case they return. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now monitored by XLinkBot. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 03:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

sermonindex.net
While cleaning up the above, I came across this one:


 * Spammer

I can't imagine how we missed one that blatant! I cleaned the links. Guy (Help!) 21:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

? MER-C 01:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see any subsequent additions. for now. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now monitored by XLinkBot. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 03:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

CDladders
The CDladders.com website has been spammed repeatedly in the certificate of deposit article.

Oct. 21

Oct. 18

Oct. 17

Oct. 12

Oct. 9

It's had to be removed by myself several times, as well as a couple of other Wikipedia users. Having the site blocked would be welcome.

I mistakenly placed this in the discussion section earlier but am moving it up to the requests section now. Tiredofscams (talk) 17:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Accounts:


 * Domain:
 * http://cdladders.com
 * Google Adsense ID: 4681729492103453
 * Google Adsense ID: 4681729492103453


 * I see only two warnings to date; normally we blacklist after more warnings.


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now added to XLinkBot's monitoring list. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

franzkafka.0fra.com
spammed to Franz Kafka by multiple IPs. Please see WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/franzkafka.0fra.com. This request was deferred from m:User:COIBot/XWiki/franzkafka.0fra.com as there's no reason to blacklist it globally at the moment. --Erwin(85) 10:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I see only one relevant warning; normally we like to see more warnings before blacklisting. Thanks for reporting this -- we'll keep an eye on it.


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now added to XLinkBot's monitoring list. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

neuralnation.com



 * Accounts:



Still adding links after warning level 4. Please blacklist this site to prevent more time wasting. Aff123a (talk) 21:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

xn--12cm1c1bgj0d1a.net

 * Sites


 * Accounts

IP have been warned, yet continued to add it every two hours, occasionally changing the IP. andy (talk) 16:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

quick-guide-usa.com
IP only additions, often reverted, used as a 'reference':





--Dirk Beetstra T C 14:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Additional account:


 * Google Adsense ID: 2328670394474814


 * Cross-wiki spam:
 * de:Spezial:Beiträge/165.162.214.222
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

londonroad.net
Please consider blacklisting of londonroad.net. The URL was reported to m:User:COIBot/XWiki/londonroad.net, but I don't think there's a need to blacklist it globally.

It's been added from multiple IPs to Peterborough United F.C.. Please see the report on meta for diff links. --Erwin(85) 09:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the editors need to get (and ignore) several warnings before we blacklist this. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:08, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Tracking link: http://londonroad.net -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reporting this -- we'll keep an eye on it.


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now added to XLinkBot's monitoring list. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

play-chess.net
This URL has been spammed to various chess articles, please see m:User:COIBot/XWiki/play-chess.net for more information. This has mostly been targeted at enwiki, so I don't want to globally blacklist it. --Erwin(85) 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * http://play-chess.net


 * I see only one spam warning; I've given another one. I think the site-owner needs more warnings before we blacklist this domain.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reporting this -- we'll keep an eye on it.


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Now added to XLinkBot's monitoring list. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

TheMovieDB.org

 * Travisbell


 * TheMovieDB.org

Editor's sole contributions have been to promote this website. — Erik (talk • contrib) 05:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

crediblemusicreviews.com
Multiple IPs (probably the same person) continually add these reviews to articles about albums and try to pass them off as professional reviews. The site is a WordPress blog, as seen on the site. Diffs:, , , ,



They usually always revert edits, disrupting the article to include these reviews, and it becomes tiresome, really. Diverse Mentality  05:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Blacklisting is a big step and potentially carries implications off of Wikipedia. We like to see the user get several warnings before we blacklist. If that doesn't stop the person, then we're happy to blacklist. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 17:11, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Domains:
 * http://crediblemusicreviews.com
 * http://www.orangekarmarecords.com


 * Spam accounts
 * warned multiple times
 * warned multiple times


 * I will give these IPs final warnings
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 17:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright, if I see anymore additions of this site, I'll bring it right back with diffs. Diverse Mentality  18:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * for now. I've added these 2 domains to XLinkBot's revert list. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:01, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

swfinvestments.net / acquisitionreport.com
, editwarred with user:Versageek and complained to AN when his spam was reverted again. Sites are of no obvious use and the user is clearly determined. Adding. Guy (Help!) 22:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Domains:


 * Reference:
 * Administrators' noticeboard/Archive177
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

1000misspenthours.com
See m:User:COIBot/LinkReports/1000misspenthours.com - IPs adding links and citing "Scott Ashlin of 1000 misspent hours" - who he? Google gives only 67 unique hits, so I don't think he is a widely cited critic like, say, Roger Ebert. I am adding this. Guy (Help!) 16:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

anontalk.com


IPs are adding things like this to talk pages. The IPs above are the ones I've seen so far, there might be more. Also, as I searched on Google, Wikipedia is definitely not the first site to get spammed. Diverse Mentality  23:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ❌ - those are not hyperlinks so the link blacklist can't do anything to stop them. Guy (Help!) 20:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

noveleros.com
Please, consider blacklisting "noveleros.com" per m:User:COIBot/XWiki/noveleros.com. (22 additions here and no enciclopedic content). Thank you. Dferg, T ES 21:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Added. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 14:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

taiwanimpression.blogspot.com
Repeatedly being added to Vietnamese people in Taiwan and Peter Nguyen by sockpuppets of User:Nipponese Dog Calvero. Blocking the user doesn't help since he just comes back with another name or an IP, and he hasn't given up in months, so protecting the page for a few days is pointless and just interferes with legitimate editing. No legitimate reason for linking to this non-notable blog. Diffs:. Thanks, cab (talk) 01:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Y. Ichiro (talk) 22:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

chinatravel.com


Long-term extlink problem on many China-related pages. XLinkBot has been tracking it for a few weeks, but apparently can't keep up or is missing some of them. For examples, see en linksearch for the list of users warned by XLinkBot. Many different registererd SPAs and anon IPs, all essentially one-time-use so warn/block not useful. Interesting pattern to many of the accounts involved but not all, so checkuser and blocking of the underlying IP likely to be incomplete solution. DMacks (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, added. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 14:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

extremetube.tv
Added, listing here for transparency. Guy (Help!) 20:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

buzz.igg.com
buzz.igg.com is the referal spam version of links to the igg.com websites. While some articles properly link to various other *.igg.com sites, it is never appropriate to use the buzz version of the link that is supposed to earn the submitter money. These get substituted for the non-referral links quite often, for example twice on Myth War Online today:



- MrOllie (talk) 00:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 14:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Now that I've got a WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/buzz.igg.com report, I can see this was x-wiki spammed. Can someone list on Meta then remove here? I've got to travel. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 14:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * done. -- seth (talk) 17:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

clubevfrportugal.com
This link has repeatedly been added to a number of motorcycle articles by different IP editors all from the same ISP in Portugal. Each time the IP editor has been banned and he/she has come back with a different IP address. After semi-protection expired on the articles, another vandal attack took place today adding this link repeated time to the same articles. Listed below are the IP addresses involved: The following IP addresses were not banned but were involved in adding the same link earlier:

Thanks. --TimTay (talk) 21:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

These links are being added yet again by another IP from the same ISP - Each time the semi protection expires the links are put back on. Please blacklist them. --TimTay (talk) 19:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 19:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Because of xwiki-spam, I added the link on meta-SBL, so you can remove it from en-SBL. -- seth (talk) 23:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Fake News Sites
 

Was brought up at AN. They're fake news sites that look quite realistic. There's no legit reason that I can think of for them to be linked to. There's potentially more domains the site uses, but I've only found two.  Matt  (  Talk  )   05:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅, I agree we really don't need that happening again. Guy (Help!) 15:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Does the blacklist affect subdomains? It looks like it's still able to be added:   Matt  (  Talk  )   09:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll tweak the regex. Stifle (talk) 11:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "\b" just means "word boundary", and "something.mediafetcher.com" has a wordboundary infront of "m". So "\bmediafetcher\.com\b" matches "something.mediafetcher.com".
 * The problem was somewhere else. The wikitext parser did not find a closing ref-tag, so there was no real link, and so the spam blacklist extension did not come into action. To prove that, I put the "link" again into that article (and removed it right afterwards).
 * The second regexp "mediafetcher\.com\b" was ok too, but it was no improvement to the original one. The new regexp "\.mediafetcher\.com\b" should be replaced by the original one, because e.g. http://mediafetcher.com will not be matched (for there is no dot before "media"). -- seth (talk) 01:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, I can tell you that the blacklist for this site is working otherwise, because I tried to demonstrate on the talk page of the user that linked it on Larroquette, and it wouldn't let me submit. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 04:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly did you try? Which link did you try to place? You can name the link here using nowiki-tags. Perhaps I was not clear enough, so have a look at the table


 * -- seth (talk) 12:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it was http://happy.power.mediafetcher.com/news/top_stories/actor_st_tropez.php That's the name of the user I was demonstrating it to. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 12:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course you are not able to place this link, because it is matched by  But, e.g. http://mediafetcher.com is not matched and so not blocked. That's why I still recommend to replace the present entries by the old ones. -- seth (talk) 16:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * anyway. I fixed it now by myself. ✅, again. -- seth (talk) 11:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

clubevfrportugal.freehostia.com
Serial spammer who was banned several times under several IP addresses is trying to get around the IP blacklisting of clubevfrportugal.com by posting the same site using this new domain name. IP used is. Editor has now resorted to personal, and offensive attacks on me via talk pages - see here. He should be stopped. --TimTay (talk) 19:28, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I added the link on meta-SBL. -- seth (talk) 23:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for the swift response. --TimTay (talk) 23:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

leafre.com

 * Site
 * Account
 * Account

Some gaming discussion forum. Having problems with the above account, and numerous IPs, adding this link to Fabio Lanzoni. Apparently they have chosen him as their "mascot" and feel that it's vital this fact be in his Wikipedia BLP. Kelly hi! 01:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Guy (Help!) 19:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

punjabinri.com

 * Site



Added by various accounts over time, often one-shot IPs. Also adding punjab.punjabinri.com which although has information is I think basically an attempt to lead people to the financial services page. I'm slowly removing it but IPs keep adding it. Thanks. dougweller (talk) 10:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Doug. IS this cross-wiki spam or just on enWP?  I can blacklist it here and on the meta blacklist if necessary. Guy (Help!) 13:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea, sorry. Thanks. dougweller (talk) 17:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ here, then, and please let us know if you see it elsehwere. Guy (Help!) 19:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

dottvnation.tv

 * Accounts
 * Accounts

Long term persistant spamming of .tv ✅--Hu12 (talk) 21:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

=Proposed removals=

holocaustresearchproject\.org
Why´s that!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.231.6 (talk) 05:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note this site was blocked on Meta (a central admin site for Wikimedia Foundation projects) not simply at the English Wikipedia so questions about it are likely to be answered more quickly and accurately at the blacklist page there. If you just want to see the reasoning for the block see this link. -- SiobhanHansa 15:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I went to the referred discussion on the blacklisting of this site and was surprised to find that the concerns about it cited were primarily someone's blog -- which seems to raise some issues about the credibility of the concerns. Issues cited also seem to be with individual entries on the site rather than the site itself -- which appears to be comprehensive and backed by some academics. I understand the concerns originally raised had to do with the site's self-referencing. The question is if someone else referenced it as a credible resource would it be cited or does someone's blog about its credibility automatically disqualify it?

Possumldy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Possumldy (talk • contribs) 18:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The primary concern - the reason why it was blocked - was the spamming by this account and this one. The rest of the comment is just a user shaking his/her head in disbelief at the (in his/her opinion) low standard of the link.  URLs aren't generally blacklisted for content (with a few extreme exceptions), only when they have been abused.   If there is a page on the site that is necessary as a reference for an assertion in an article that particular URL could be whitelisted if the circumstances warrant it. -- SiobhanHansa 15:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Why wasn't that user warned and then blocked instead? --Apoc2400 (talk) 14:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They were and it didn't work. -- SiobhanHansa 10:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I wish it was not blacklisted, too. While the quality of some contents seems disputable, the site also contains lots of valuable information. --Lysytalk 17:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * due to persistent spamming. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 21:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

merekavimitra.blogspot.com
[use above link before tis path] search/label/shaheed%20bhagat%20singh. I think only one example helps my standing... this links contain research works in Hindi over Bhagat singh. I know that wikipedia is not a place of advertising, but a place where user can get more valuable material.. all the material should not be placed here.. so, linking is not a bad option.. I think you should give one more chance to this URL
 * This is not a peer-reviewed source. Blogspot is a terrible source for most things.  But actually it's not blacklisted. Guy (Help!) 19:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This domain and the one below (hindyugm.com) were blacklisted on meta because of this. MER-C 01:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * For the record, -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 21:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

www.cosmoetica.com
Don't know why it's blacklisted. Useful source of interviews with authors and commentaries.

pheon (talk) 02:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The site was spammed as part of an extensive campaign to promote writing by Dan Schneider. It covered more than the English Wikipedia so the URL has been blacklisted at Meta.  See   and  If you really need a particular link for a particular article you can request whitelisting of the link at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. -- SiobhanHansa 20:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Case closed here, -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 21:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

toowoomba.org
How did this site get blacklisted? This site is non-commercial in nature, and provides useful information to the people of the City of Toowoomba. This site has never been used for spam activity. Can it please be removed from the blacklist. Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.121.80 (talk) 09:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think was mistakenly blacklisted on the meta blacklist (not this one) based on the fact that this domain was sharing a server with some unrelated domains that were heavily spammed. See:
 * meta:User:COIBot/XWiki/bollywoodcasino.info


 * You can request removal from the meta blacklist at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 22:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

zuguide.com
I believe this site was blacklisted by mistake. I am a fan of the site, and notice it kept on that external links to the site kept on getting deleted. zuguide is a movie trailer website with a lot of rich media. As such, since it was linked in wikipedia to particular movies and actors/actresses this is appropriate according to the guidelines.

The guidelines state: Direct links to documents that require external applications (such as Flash or Java) to view the relevant content, unless the article is about such rich media.

Movies, actors, and actresses today are not just referred to by still photos but by video. Since movies can't be referenced (licensing issues) it seems appropriate that movie trailers be referenced if they are licensed.

The zuguide.com help pages state that the content is licensed by the Cinema-Source. I looked at cinema-source.com, they are subsidiary of hollywood.com, and this is one of the things that they do, i.e. license movie trailers. I have to assume that therefore the licensing is legit, because I'm sure that otherwise, Cinema-Source would know about it, and challenge zuguide.com

Other issues that have come up are that you need to login - you don't I've used the site a lot and usually don't log in.

As a wikipedia user, I like using external links because I assume they have been vetted and won't bring me to spam. By adding zuguide link to a wikipedia article, I believe I am doing other users a service. I don't think zuguide.com has a lot to gain, as wikipedia articles are nofollow

Actor links of the form: Cate-Blanchett.html show a page of pictures of the actors in the various movies.

Movie links are of the form: Babel.html

I can't type the url in because it has been blacklisted

The person that asked for a deletion said that the users were new. I have actually been doing wikipedia articles on and off for a few years, but it is this particular kind of witchhunt where every article one has ever contributed to becomes suspect, that I decided to start a new wikipedia id coming to the aid of this website.

Movietrailerfan (talk) 12:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Looking at A.B.s spam report, I see a pattern of single purpose accounts canvassing these links, which suggests an advertising campaign. OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, there was a mistake, the mistake was spamming. That's what the blacklist is for.  There's no suggestion that these links would be useful within the Wikipedia external link guidelines.  Guy (Help!) 22:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you are focusing on the wrong issue here. This is a site with thousands of pages and a few users (maybe they were even associated with the that website) put in a few links.  I don't think that is the issue.  I am asking to add an external link to a few of my favorite actor's wikipedia articles with a link that I find useful.  I think Wikipedia editor should be focusing on the utility of the links.  In my discussion above, I make multiple suggestions as to why links to zuguide are useful.  The author above chose to respond to none of them.  I would appreciate if some other wikipedia editors would reconsider this denial.
 * Movietrailerfan (talk) 05:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Movie trailers are quite easy to find with a simple web search. It's obvious that there was a campaign to get hits to this link. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 06:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC


 * Actually, they are not so easy to find. Most of the links are to youtube, which is often not a reliable source.  I have found that movie trailers often have 15 seconds of movie trailer and then a video of somebody's kid, or worse, somebody's girlfriend.  Also, those trailers are not licensed by the studios.  On other movie information sites, I might need to go through 4 or 5 clicks to finally watch a trailer.  Zuguide brings me right to the trailer.  Furthermore, the link that I added for Cate Blanchett on zuguide was a link to trailers of all of her movies, which would entail a lot of searching.


 * Also, I'm not sure that the argument that "easy to find with simple web search" washes here. A lot of the information on Wikipedia is easy to find using web search.  But it's also easy to find lots of junk.  My point in adding anything to Wikipedia is to share with others from my knowledge and experience, much of which has come from "simple web search".


 * I don't know if others were involved in a campaign to get hits to the site. But my campaign is less about zuguide, and more about the fact that every time I add something to wikipedia, somebody turns around and deletes it a few minutes later.  Usually, I just take it, but this time I am fighting that trend.
 * Movietrailerfan (talk) 10:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to new editors' or site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their encyclopaedic value in support of our encyclopaedia pages. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your links may well be removed.


 * Unlike Wikipedia, DMOZ is a web directory specifically designed to categorize and list all Internet sites; if you've not already gotten this site listed there, I encourage you to do so -- it's a more appropriate venue for this link than our encyclopaedia. Their web address: http://www.dmoz.org/. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 14:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, the first constructive comment here, but I still disagree. Someone might add www-zuguide-com (I can't even type the url here because of the blacklist) to dmoz.org website as a Movie trailer website, which would be a description of the site as a whole  But I wanted to do was to add a particular page in zuguide, i.e. www-zuguide-com / Cate-Blanchett.html that refers to Cate Blanchett's movies.  This is similar to imdb on the same wikipedia article, the point is not to point imdb.com but imdb's entry regarding Cate Blanchett.
 * Movietrailerfan (talk) 16:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to disagree, but the matter is closed. OhNo itsJamie Talk 17:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * So rather than respond to my argiments, you just say the matter is closed, and that's it?
 * Could someone describe to me what my options are now?
 * Movietrailerfan (talk) 22:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Your options are (a) like it or (b) lump it. Sorry, those are the only options.  We heard what you have to say, and we disagree with yoru assessment of this site and its value to this project.  Guy (Help!) 11:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

holocaustresearchproject.org
This website did not spam wiki. Holocaust Revisionists and some "nutjob" bloggers spammed wiki posting links to the Holocaustresearchproject.org website with the sole intent to have it blacklisted for spamming.

Wiki should have known better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.106.77 (talk) 21:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you could talk to your ISP then since at least one of them (IP 71.243.87.210) seems to use the same service provider. -- SiobhanHansa 00:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, so is it enough to spam wikipedia pages with links to a source in order to get it blocked ? Seems an easy way to discredit any disliked site. --Lysytalk 17:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. And in this case the spamming was not the only issue, I believe. Guy (Help!) 11:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * ❌. Delisting the site may be considered on the application of an established user. Stifle (talk) 14:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

WikiJob.co.uk
I am requesting the removal of the domain www.wikijob.co.uk from the domain blacklist. The domain was originally blacklisted when the wiki page for WikiJob.co.uk was removed - however, the wiki page went through a discussion process and the wiki page removal was overturned (although the domain blacklisting was not). The domain would be useful as a link for the current wikipedia page on "Interns" as WikiJob.co.uk provides info on internships for graduates in the UK. 86.0.221.59 (talk) 08:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It was removed because you spammed it across multiple pages. The fact that you succeeded in persuading some soft-hearted people to allow you (at the umpteenth attempt) to keep your article on your website does not negate the fact that you are a spammer. Guy (Help!) 22:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

americageo.com
www.americageo.com no is spam, only offer information about places in map google. Only have banner of my enterprise and google advertises. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcomedina (talk • contribs) 19:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * . You give no reason why links are of benefit to us, rather than you; and we typically do not delist by request of site owners. Guy (Help!) 22:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

fleetstreetinvest.co.uk
Our domain has been added to the blacklist when (as far as I am aware) nobody has ever even posted a link to this site, the ban I believe is due to other Agora websites (Our parent company) posting links. The website has nothing to do with the other Agora websites that have been spamming we are all run as separate businesses so no shared spamming techniques so looks like we have been tarred with the same brush which is a little unfair.

"Have links been placed after warnings/blocks? Have other methods of control been exhausted? Would referring this to our anti-spam bot, XLinkBot be a more appropriate step? Is there a WikiProject Spam report? If so, a permanent link would be helpful."

None of this has been done as far as I am aware ... a straight blacklist for doing nothing.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleetstreetinvest (talk • contribs) 12:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * (ec)I confirm, I have no linkadditions of this domain in my database. Although we generally don't unlist when site owners request unlisting (conflict of interest and such), I would say that delisting of this domain should be done in this case.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 12:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (+) We also blacklist sometimes to prevent abuse (if a number of sites on one server get abused, then this is the next step). --Dirk Beetstra T  C 12:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * On the other hand, there is no suggestion that the site is of any use to the encyclopaedia, and it's hard to see how the user would even know it's blacklisted unless there was some attempt to add it. Guy (Help!) 22:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Agora mounted a massive spam operation on Wikipedia; see the complete record at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2008 Archive Oct 2. We don't try to sort out the internal politics of domain-owners when blacklisting their domains; we have no way of telling who we're dealing with or verifying what they're saying. I suggest you speak to your owners about their Internet business practices; they seem pretty spammy from this end.


 * Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their encyclopaedic value in support of our encyclopaedia pages. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your links may well be removed.


 * Unlike Wikipedia, DMOZ is a web directory specifically designed to categorize and list all Internet sites; if you've not already gotten your sites listed there, I encourage you to do so -- it's a more appropriate venue for your links than our wikis. Their web address: http://www.dmoz.org/.


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Additional comment:
 * See WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/moneyweek.com: moneyweek.com is registered to Fleet Street Publications and was extensively spammed by Agora-related accounts, including which is specificly registered to Fleet Street.


 * Also, in researching this, I turned up additional Agora domains overlooked previously:
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * ✅, thanks. Guy (Help!) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

www.petitiononline.com
Wikipedia shall be neutral in political topics. When I quote some bojections to Bill Richardson III, the link was in black list. Surprisely, not all the whole petition site is blocked, only the link to the objection of Richardson is blocked.

The link provides only a openion and doesn't lead to the submission of petition. I don't understand why it's in black list. Please remove it.

Nextop (talk) 00:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Myself and other users have attempted to add meaningful PetitionOnline URLs to articles (for example, a citation for a reference to a petition for Rick Rescorla, but all PetitionOnline.com URLs have been blocked due to "spam". I realize there are several meaningless petitions hosted there but, unless there is something we're missing, I believe the value of the site is such that it should be removed from the blacklist.  Thanks for your consideration. 66.253.47.250 (talk) 15:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * This section originally posted in the Discussion section and referenced www.petitiononline.com/GovBillR however the section title was changed to request the unblocking of the PetitionOnline.com domain, as it is currently blocked at the domain level. Additionally, it was moved to the Proposed removals section, as we are petitioning for its removal from the blacklist.  66.253.47.250 (talk) 15:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a soapbox. There is no reason to link to petitions on petitiononline.  If they are notable, there are third party sources backing that up (and there is no need for a direct link), otherwise they don't need to be mentioned.  For the few that need to be linked, I would suggest whitelisting of the specific petitions.  As such, .  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 17:56, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

tinyurl.com
was added just a few hours ago:.

but that is fully redundant for it is blocked on meta already by \btinyurl\.(?:co\.uk|com)\b -- seth (talk) 11:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That block isnt working - the URL was used successfully on AN. Viridae Talk 12:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Could you give me the AN-diff, please? Perhaps someone just put a link to the main page. That's still possible because its on your local white list. see: []. -- seth (talk) 12:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The diff is here, that is not a working link, Viridae, and this is possible anyway. I am going to remove the rule from the blacklist again to avoid further confusion.  Marking as ✅ (don't we have removed here?)  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 15:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

stencils.ch
for some reason stencils.ch has been blacklisted, although it does indeed provide viable information (that is, stencils. lots of them)... now corretct me if i'm wrong, but there are no ads/spam either, so i'm not really getting why it should be blocked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.61.103.4 (talk • contribs)



Persistent link additions to Stencil (7 times) by IPs only. I actually hope that this is on meta (it is, I just checked). By the way, you are one of the 3 IP editors who have added this link. You may want to review our external links guideline and what wikipedia is not policy. As such,. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Dogs.info
Should be removed from the blacklist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borwnhear (talk • contribs) 11:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC) ; — Borwnhear (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Dogs.info partial spam history:


 * Spam accounts
 * Partial list:


 * Domains spammed:
 * Google Adsense ID: 6526704738187586
 * Google Adsense ID: 6526704738187586
 * Google Adsense ID: 6526704738187586


 * Related domains:
 * Active sites
 * Inactive or parked domains:
 * }}
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Inactive or parked domains:
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 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Inactive or parked domains:
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 * Inactive or parked domains:
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 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Typically, we do not remove domains from the spam blacklist in response to site-owners' requests. Instead, we de-blacklist sites when trusted, high-volume editors request the use of blacklisted links because of their encyclopaedic value in support of our encyclopaedia pages. If such an editor asks to use your links, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your links may well be removed.


 * Unlike Wikipedia, DMOZ is a web directory specifically designed to categorize and list all Internet sites; if you've not already gotten your sites listed there, I encourage you to do so -- it's a more appropriate venue for your links than our wikis. Their web address: http://www.dmoz.org/.


 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * PS, these other domains were overlooked and should be also added. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, good work. Guy (Help!) 15:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

freeforums.org
Madhops360 (talk) 10:33, 07 December 2008 Why is freeforums.org blacklisted? I run an online game forums for FreeStyle Street Basketball for North America, Thanks.
 * Per WP:EL, forums are rarely (if ever) appropriate external links on Wikipedia. OhNo itsJamie Talk 06:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * . Linking would be inappropriate for this requester anyway. Guy (Help!) 11:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

AnimeNfo.com & anidb.info
Hi, I was trying to update the external links for The Bush Baby. Currently the AnimeNfo link is pointing to a spam site that's not animenfo.com. I've noticed animenfo.com & anidb.info URLs are blacklisted, while animenewsnetwork.com is not, is there a reason for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.91.167.74 (talk) 12:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It was blacklisted because the url contains copyright violations. Please refer to this page Y. Ichiro (talk) 22:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Stifle (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

sodaquick.com
never done any spam, no doubt a competitor added our web site as spammer. please note that others competitors have full pages of advertising in Wikipedia Sodastream, sodaclub , etc )  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.80.214.136 (talk) 08:45, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * is that an addition proposal? It seems more to be a removal proposal. anyway, sodaquick.com is blocked on meta-wiki because of crosswiki spamming, see m:user:COIBot/XWiki/sodaquick.com. -- seth (talk) 11:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

www.pngs.pulsar.net.pl
This is the official website of the Table Mountains National Park in Poland. A link to this stie would be obviously useful at Table Mountains National Park, List of national parks of Poland and related articles. I don't know if it's blacklisted globally or locally, and whether I should ask for whitelisting instead. &mdash; Kpalion(talk) 16:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi!
 * You can use the tool to check, where a link is blocked. "pulsar.net" is blocked at meta, and probably it was not the aim to block pulsar.net.pl. However, pulsar.net seems to be non-existing, so I will try to unblock the whole domain at meta. In that case pulsar.net.pl will be unblocked, too. -- seth (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's OK now. Thanks! &mdash; Kpalion(talk) 00:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

ethereallore -dot- envy -dot- nu
Hello. This is my Lands of Lore (game) website. It's filled with great information. Yes, it has some pop ups, but it is not a spam website. It's filled with great information about the gaming series. With a simple pop up blocker, you don't even notice any pop up problems. Please consider this so I can add it to the Lands of Lore page. 01:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.64.161 (talk)


 * The domain envy.nu is blocked at meta, so your request could be placed there. But as you are the site owner your request would be declined there. So the second option is to request a local whitelisting. But I guess, that WP:EL will not give support to your request. I suggest, that you ask at the talk page of the article, whether the authors agree that this link would be an improvement for the article. -- seth (talk) 02:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * ❌ wrong venue, and wrong requester, and site would in any case not be listed as it fails WP:EL. Guy (Help!) 17:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)