MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2013/01

thebestof.co.uk/local/monmouth/events/323660/open-evening
Please note that this is my first request to whitelist a link. I am only requesting that this specific page, the best of monmouth, be whitelisted. During the course of creating a page yesterday, Wye Bridge Ward, I came across a short article, The Royal Oak, Monmouth, that seemed to be in danger of deletion. It only had one reference. I went ahead and added a reference and a small amount of text. I reconsidered though, and decided to copy edit the article, including adding sources for existing material. Concerned that it wouldn't be enough to save the article, I decided to do a full expansion. This particular page is the only one that I have found so far that specifically describes the Monmouth Rotary Club event at The Royal Oak. The Monmouth Rotary Club is a philanthropic organization, which I think is deserving of an article of its own. I was hoping to use this page for both the preexisting article The Royal Oak, Monmouth and a future article on the Monmouth Rotary Club. In addition, I have been able to verify the accuracy of the contents of the lecture given that evening by the guest speaker with a BBC source. Thank you. Anne (talk) 13:53, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The Royal Oak, Monmouth
 * The Royal Oak, Monmouth
 * ✅ Stifle (talk) 16:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/president-obama-signs-executive-order-allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources
this is a combination opinion and fact piece. I want to use it on the site National Defense Resources Preparedness executive order I am creating as an example of the [right-wing] criticism of the order. Yes, I have read Common requests, and I have also read the comments on the examiner's talk page. Kdammers (talk) 02:01, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Stifle (talk) 16:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

cbronline: 26 April 1992 article

 * Ref at www.cbronline.com/news/high_hopes_for_advanced_risc_machines_ltd_as_acorn_returns_to_the_black requested for use within Acorn Computers. I've read /Common requests and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/September 2011. Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 15:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. Blacklisted for spamming, does not restrict us from whitelisting individual articles for use as citations. Stifle (talk) 16:18, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. Blacklisted for spamming, does not restrict us from whitelisting individual articles for use as citations. Stifle (talk) 16:18, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

http://www.examiner.com/classic-movie-in-new-york/nancy-s-story
http://www.examiner.com/classic-movie-in-new-york/nancy-s-story was written by Mel Neuhaus. I plan to use it for To Whom It May Concern: Ka Shen's Journey.

His about page WebCite states: "Mel Neuhaus has spent the past three decades writing almost exclusively about and for his lifelong passion: the movies. His articles/interviews/reviews have appeared worldwide in such renowned publications and on-line sites as Turner Classic Movies, Home Theater and Sound & Vision." In other words, he has published or reviewed for Turner Classic Movies, Home Theater Network, and Sound & Vision.

Identifying reliable sources states, "Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP."

I believe that Neuhaus meets the criteria of being an "established expert" in the field of film. I will primarily use the information in the article, particularly the interview, with film director Brian Jamieson to extend the "background and production" section. I will use critical commentary from Neuhaus to expand the "Reception" section. Cunard (talk) 06:41, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Request is by high-volume respected user, I am inclined to allow it. ✅ Stifle (talk) 16:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

examiner.com on Terry Riley


I've used www.examiner.com/article/terry-riley-s-benefit-performance-for-old-first-concerts as a reference (URL currently commented out) on Terry Riley. It's a run-of-the-mill concert review; I have no connection with the author. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed: Examiner.com can be paid for publication, regardless of the status of the editor choosing to use the source. It also takes press releases and publishes them as if they were original, third-party articles. Jeremy112233 (talk) 03:04, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Jeremy112233, you are free to make recommendations, but we don't do non-admin closures here. We're well aware of what examiner.com is, it's described in /Common requests, and each request must be reviewed on a case by case basis, not simply closed by default. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:49, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Requested by a high-volume user: ✅ Stifle (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

gcaptain.com/world%E2%80%99s-largest-carrier-roro/

 * Article:
 * Reason: On this topic, GCaptain has some interesting coverage which goes beyond that in other reliable sources. I'd like to use it to expand the article. I don't know why the site was blacklisted before but in this case I'm trying to use it as a source; I'm not a spammer. If it is possible to whitelist other pages I may come back here later and request whitelisting to allow improvements in other shipping articles on enwiki. bobrayner (talk) 14:14, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Stifle (talk) 16:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

www.whale.to
I'd like to be able to link to this article in Wilhelm Reich -- Sobey, Victor (1956). "An Eyewitness Report of the Burning of Scientific Books in the USA, 1956" -- which is at http://www.whale.to/b/reich23.html I only need that one link to be whitelisted. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * http://www.whale.to/b/reich23.html ✅--Hu12 (talk) 15:15, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Many thanks. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:25, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I object to this move. If whale.to was just a quirky--but not reliable--source, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's one of the most egregious websites on the internet when it comes to hosting conspiracy theories, extremely libelous content, and other unscientific and nonsensical material. This site isn't just unreliable in a careless manner, but is downright malicious in its disregard for accuracy, truth, and legitimate content. It almost seems that it seeks to avoid anything that would fall within the boxes containing mainstream scientific fact and opinion, and then hosts everything that falls between the cracks outside those boxes. The degree of ignorance is appalling. The rare content that's usable here can be found elsewhere, or can just be referenced without providing a URL to whale.to.


 * There is no policy-based justification for this move, so we're creating a slippery slope, not just using one. Until it's a requirement to always provide an active URL as part of a reference, I don't see the need to include URLs to that website. Just provide the reference and those who really want to see it can find it themselves. We don't need to provide a link. (This doesn't apply to many other blacklisted sites. Many of them are blacklisted because they are spammed, not because all their content is bad, like this one.) Please provide your thoughts on this. -- Brangifer (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * It's just that one link, not the site as a whole, and I can't find that material anywhere else. It's a letter from a physician about Reich (and a supporter of his), offering an eyewitness account of the burning of Reich's books in 1956, so it's of historical interest as a primary source for that article. I can't see any reason to force readers to go hunting for it, when we can link to it directly. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:25, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not questioning the historical interest, or even the possibly dubious nature of such book burnings, but we really shouldn't link directly to websites of such poor quality when we aren't required to by policy. Policy doesn't require a URL, and in this case it doesn't seem absolutely necessary. There should be very compelling reasons for doing so with a website like this one. It would be tantamount to linking directly to one of TB's websites. That's pretty low!


 * If this is done anyway, we should add a hidden editorial note that links to this discussion and warns the reader about the blacklisted status of the website.


 * Here's some relevant background:


 * Articles for deletion/Whale.to
 * User:Whaleto (John)
 * Requests for comment/Whaleto
 * WikiProject Spam/LinkReports/whale.to
 * Requests for comment/Ombudsman


 * -- Brangifer (talk) 19:07, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The root domain has not been white listed or removed from the blacklist. This whitelisting was for a single specific link, to a letter written in the 50's. If there is any reason to believe the Letter by Victor M. Sobey has been altered, edited or otherwise falsified, please provide that evidence. --Hu12 (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I understand both your points, but I wasn't addressing them. (I know that it's only that one URL, and I haven't implied the very short letter has been altered. BTW, such a letter wouldn't be considered a RS, unless cited by a very RS. Even then, a URL is not required.) I just don't see a reason to link directly to that site at all. The only exception would be an article about the whale.to site, and that was deleted. If policy required a URL link in every reference, it would be a different matter. -- Brangifer (talk) 01:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I understand you general concern regarding this site, and its abuse history is on record, however the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist is not the Wikipedia complaints department. --Hu12 (talk) 01:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Thanks for at least considering the matter, and I have no intention of doing more, other than leaving a hidden note when this link is used. We owe other editors that much, otherwise they'll think that it's suddenly okay to start using whale.to as a ref. (OTOH, I disagree with the declaration that it's not proper to object here. Where else should it be done when necessary? This is the logical place. It would be disruptive to spread such a disagreement into other venues like noticeboards, since dispute resolution often creates lots of disruption and wasted time for many editors. It's usually best to deal with matters quietly, on the spot. Again, I have no intention of pursuing this matter. I'm just curious about what to do in the future.) -- Brangifer (talk) 02:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * For a complaint about the specific link used in the specific way proposed here, the appropriate venue would be WP:RSN. If the community agrees that the link is not suitable for the purpose intended, then we can de-whitelist it. ~Amatulić (talk) 02:38, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * That makes perfect sense. Thanks. -- Brangifer (talk) 04:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

For future reference,there's much more history about that link at: -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:25, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * meta:Talk:Spam blacklist/Recurring requests

MoneyWeek.com
I've read some of the background on Money Week blacklisting, it has reputable journalists, but the publishers didn't seem to want to follow the rules of Wikipedia back in 2009. I'm wanting to put in a reference to a potentially contentious comment on Sir Peter Bazalgette's article, who has just been appointed to a new government sponsored post in the UK.
 * Articles:Peter Bazalgette
 * Articles:Peter Bazalgette

Some people have joked that whilst his illustrious ancestor was responsible for helping London rid itself of so much foetid detritus; through his TV programmes, Sir Peter has merely channelled it all back again.

The way forward seems to be a whitelist for specific Money Week articles like this one. The link I'd like to use to substantiate this is www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/profile-peter-bazalgette Wikiwayman (talk) 14:55, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This seems reasonable. To be honest, I am minded to remove it from the blacklist fully. Stifle (talk) 16:10, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Let's talk about it on the spam-blacklist page first, before making that decision. 2009 is not all that long ago. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Please do not remove moneyweek.com or other Agora Publishing domains from the blacklist without discussion. I blacklisted these several years ago because the publisher and various Agora editors spammed them repeatedly. I observed at the time that these expensive financial newsletters were often just opinions, anyway. One Agora newsletter might be hyping gold while another might be hyping short-selling gold. I don't think these are always reliable sources unless you need them for our Hype article. I'd hate to see us remove this from the blacklist then have these spammy links proliferate again.


 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2008 Archive Oct 2
 * MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/December 2008
 * MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2011/04
 * MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2011/10
 * MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2012/09
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 03:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * In that case, white listing the specific article I asked for should be no problem; my point for making the request is that the opinion has been published in a wide-circulation publication. Because of the way the Wikipedia article is written, the accuracy of the Money Week editorial doesn't matter; it's the publication itself which is notable. (n.b. I also intend to tone down the wording, it's too flowery and smacks of additional editorialising by whoever contributed that part of the article). Wikiwayman (talk) 19:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I have no objections to white-listing individual URLs where appropriate; my comments were in connection with possibly removing the entire domain from the blacklist. I'll let someone else make the final call on this request. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 19:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * to whitelist. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd already sourced the contentious sewage gag to the Evening Standard, when they brought it up last month in relation to his new Arts Council position. Not sure why we needed to whitelist a page from a blacklisted domain here. --McGeddon (talk) 15:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh... didn't notice that. I removed the entry just now, although the whitelist has some other earlier links to that site. Thanks. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Dialog TV Subscribers Unite
Kind attn: All admins and Respective concerns. With reference to the Wikipedia page (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_TV) we would like to request your consideration to unlock the URL concerned as dialogtv.blogspot.com

Please be noted that, The subject web portal is the official subscribers unite web site for the Dialog TV subscribers in Sri Lanka. It will focus on concerns of pluses and cons of the service, the updated news and rest of the concerns regarding the service rendered by DTV

All the information as you also might consider be formal, forward, productive and infomational. Will discuss and attain regarding the developments and criticize with productive moderation.

By including the web portal in wikipedia will enhance the encyclopedia by extending the user comments of the service on both pluses and cons. Therefore, we seek your kind consideration to Fully-whitelist or Ashlist the subject web portal only and allow it to cross link from wikipedia itself.

We thank you in advance for your efforts in this regards.
 * This page is for requests to whitelist one or a few specific named pages from a blocked site. Requests for the entire site to be permitted would need to go to MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist in the appropriate section, but such a request would fall to be denied for this site as it appears to be spammy and not a reliable source. This is also . Stifle (talk) 17:04, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

s14.invisionfree.com/Conchologist_Forum/ar/t2125.htm


I would like to use this description of the dwarf surf clam for an article I am writing which will soon be moving into mainspace as Mulinia lateralis. I have been unable to find a good description of this shell elsewhere. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you just need a text description, is there any reason why a forum posting is preferable the numerous reliable sources that already exist on the topic?
 * If you need one of the images, have you asked the author of those images to upload one of them to Wikipedia (or better yet, Commons)? That would be more useful to the article than an external link.
 * This isn't a denial of your request, just a request for clarification. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I wanted a text description because I could find no other. Admittedly, I might have found more information if I had searched further but once one has looked at the first thirty or so results of a Google search, one loses enthusiasm. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * , forums would not be considered reliable sources. Stifle (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Source from Examiner.com


I triggered a spam filter. I want to add the link with the article name 'madonna-paris-concert-reports-proven-false-by-fbi-and-fans; to the MDNA Tour page but it is not allowed.MysticMuffin (talk) 16:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That's because this isn't a reliable source. Stifle (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

A History of Broadcasting in the Philippines From World War II to the Birth of Philippine Television
I have finally found a summarized history of broadcasting in the Philippines, this self-published work(www.socyberty.com/history/a-history-of-broadcasting-in-the-philippines-from-world-war-ii-to-the-birth-of-philippine-television) is from a reliable author, but apparently the domain is currently blacklisted. I hope to use this on the history section of ABS-CBN Corporation to support the statements written on the article. The article has too many unsupported statements and needs verification. Thank you. Hollyckuhno (talk) 12:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As you note, it is self-published, therefore not a reliable source. Therefore this request is ❌. Stifle (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

z4.invisionfree.com


I would like z4.invisionfree.com/telenovelas/index.php?showtopic=1732 to be unblocked as I'm using it as a filmography reference for Alejandro Felipe. I have searched other sites, but there is none, apart from IMDB, but I'm not using that as a reference.--Mjs1991 (talk) 08:50, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Close as no: This makes no sense as IMDB is considered a good reference by most sites--and has never been argued successfully otherwise. Jeremy112233 (talk) 03:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * "IMDB is considered a good reference"? Not by Wikipedia. It's fine as an external link but should not be used as a reference. See WP:IMDB.
 * As for this specific request, the URL specified is a forum site, and forums are not considered reliable sources for use as references in articles. See WP:RS, which states quite clearly in boldface:  Never use self-published books, zines, websites, webforums, blogs and tweets as a source for material about a living person. Therefore this request is . ~Amatulić (talk) 06:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

UKMIX page
I would like to request that www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3755535 be unblocked so that the music sales it mentions can be used in the list of best-selling singles worldwide.

It is useful as a temporary or placeholder reference for UK single sales for which a more reliable link cannot be found:


 * I remember I recorded the Official Beyoncé Top 20 on MTV Hits a few weeks ago. Sorry I couldn't record the whole show though


 * Here's what they said:


 * Beautiful Liar : 410,000
 * Best Thing I Never Had : 410,000 (over 450,000 now)
 * Sweet Dreams : 420,000
 * Crazy in Love : 460,000
 * Halo : 560,000
 * Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) : 620,000 (already updated)
 * Telephone : 650,000
 * If I Were A Boy : 680,000 (already updated)

The preceding sales data should be here in the original and official list that appears on MTV.co.uk. However, the sales listed in that link happen to be outdated, and the newer data can only be found at sites like the forum link above.

Please unblock the first web page so we can include this much-needed data in the aforementioned best-selling singles list.--Mauri96 (talk) 22:29, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * , forums are not a reliable source. Stifle (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Kooga-Rugby.com
This is the homepage of the Rugby League and Rugby Union Brand Kooga. It is news and sale page for Kooga. Please can it be whitelisted so that reference material can be used from the website on the Wiki page about the Brand. ManWithTooMuchTime (talk) 12:44, 4 July 2012 (UTC)ManWithTooMuchTime 13:44 GMT
 * Article:
 * First, the page already contains the "official" website kooga.com.au. Secondly, its wholly a sales-only site, so it fails Wikipedias specific requirements of our External Links policy, Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. I'm not convinced how this could be used as as a citation.--Hu12 (talk) 16:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Stifle (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

www.emptynosesyndrome.org/what_is_ens.php#symptoms
This is the symptoms page of the Empty Nose Syndrome Association, a nonprofit, public charity that tries to raise awareness about ENS. The link is needed in the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_nose_syndrome, because the article doesn’t mention all symptoms. Also, the symptoms page has an audio of Dr. Kern’s presentation about ENS at a nose conference, which is very revealing. I have already requested the removal of the whole site from the blacklist, and I hope it will be granted as well. There it is explained why the site was blacklisted in the first place. Thanks. Gewell (talk) 16:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This page is for requests to whitelist one or a few specific named pages from a blocked site. I see you have already requesed the removal of the whole site, and I am going to this request without prejudice. Stifle (talk) 17:00, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Uncensored Interviews interview with Poni Hoax
I would like this particular URL to be unblocked so that I can cite it on the Poni Hoax page. This link contains 100% unique VIDEO interviews that cannot be found on any other website. (After 6 hours of research for an important project I should know...). The article on Poni Hoax is a stub, and I regularly contributed to the article (I made an account since, but my IP address is the newest one as of this post) because I know alot about the band, and it appears that no one else is willing to post any other information on them. These collections of interviews help improve the quality of an article on a band that's on Rock Band 3 (a very popular music game) and anyone who wishes to find out anything about them should be able to verify the sources I used in the article. If they can't, they could delete important, valid, unique information (especially that pertaining to their 3rd album still in the planning stages) that has the potential to be viewed by a great quantity of people. Sageamagoo (talk) 01:40, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * www.uncensoredinterview.com/artists/poni-hoax
 * www.uncensoredinterview.com/artists/poni-hoax
 * As you have only a small contribution history, I will not be able to progress this request without backup from another user or an appropriate WikiProject. for now, feel free to relist with that support. Stifle (talk) 16:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

bit.ly/wlafghan2

 * bit.ly/wlafghan2

I would like this link to be whitelisted, please, for use as a source in Bradley Manning. It is referred to in a tweet by WikiLeaks, and that tweet is used as a source in the article for a key date. But when I link to it, the article can't be saved because bit.ly is on the blacklist. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 04:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That URL shortener url redirects to http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/afghan-airstrike-video-goes-down-the-memory-hole/. Is there any reason you cannot use that directly as your source? Anomie⚔ 11:13, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm quoting a tweet from WikiLeaks in a footnote, and I'd like to quote it exactly for the sake of precision, because the date and contents of the tweet are important. But because this is on the blacklist, I'm not able to reproduce the tweet the way it was posted. SlimVirgin (talk) 15:21, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Would it be an option to quote it with 'nowiki' tags on the link? --Dirk Beetstra T  C 13:29, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I could do that, or I could leave it as I have it now (see below). It's just that looks a bit odd and unnecessary (and would still require an invisible note explaining about the blacklist, which I currently have too), and especially odd in an article about freedom of information. Mind you, I might be the only one who ever notices it -- I probably shouldn't assume that readers pore through every footnote. But the point is that I'm quoting Julian Assange, and it would be nice to quote precisely what he wrote, as he wrote it. The footnote is as follows:


 * "For the WikiLeaks tweet, see 'Have encrypted videos ...', Twitter, January 8, 2010, accessed April 6, 2012. The tweet said: 'Have encrypted videos of US bomb strikes on civilians ... bit.ly/wlafghan2 we need super computer time http://ljsf.org/'"


 * SlimVirgin (talk) 13:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I recommend quoting the link using 'nowiki' tags, and then within the quote the actual URL that it redirects to should be cited with a 'ref' tag. That way readers can see the original quotation and look at the reference to see the original source mentioned in the quotation. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


 * , no real reason to use the shortened URL rather than the full one. Stifle (talk) 16:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about this, Stifle. Can you say why this one link can't be whitelisted? It's in a quotation, so I would like to reproduce it exactly as it was posted on Twitter -- no nowiki, no alternative URLs, just exactly the way it first appeared. The reason I'm requesting this is that it pertains to a key point in the sequence of events. Also, in an article about freedom of information, it looks extremely odd that I'm not allowed to reproduce one of the links. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't present a special reason when you can place the link in tags (or, indeed, as you are a sysop, whitelist it yourself). Stifle (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Am I allowed to whitelist it for articles I'm involved in editing? The issue for me is that it's a quotation about a key issue, and I would like to reproduce it precisely. If there's a good reason for not whitelisting the link (a better reason than needing to quote it), fair enough, but no one has said what the problem is. Can you say what it is? SlimVirgin (talk) 20:40, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Two comments:
 * We blacklist link shorteners since they are sometimes used to bypass the blacklist.
 * My own opinion: I see no reason not to whitelist the specific "bit.ly/wlafghan2" link in this case.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs)


 * And as I suggested earlier, the best solution is not to white-list anything, but simply use the quote as is, with the actual link hyperlinked to the displayed bit.ly link. That way readers will see the original quote, but if they click on the link they will go to the correct place.


 * As to whitelisting something yourself, I'd say because we are required to log all additions, and each log entry must point to a discussion justifying the addition, if you can point to such a justifying discussion then there's no problem with an WP:INVOLVED admin whitelisting something, because any other admin could do the same. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I didn't understand your response, Amatulic (about using the quote as is with the actual link hyperlinked to the bit.ly link). If you mean I should substitute the URL, yes, I could do that, but then I've fiddled with a quotation.


 * This may seem like a minor issue, so my apologies. But it is a quotation from Julian Assange, and it speaks to the precise time he obtained a certain video. I would therefore like to reproduce that quotation exactly as he posted it. So far, no one has explained why the link bit.ly/wlafghan2 is problematic. I understand the problem with shortened URLs in general, but it's just this one that I'm asking to be allowed to reproduce. If that particular link isn't a problem, it should be allowed.


 * Again, my apologies for banging on about what must seem like a very minor thing. SlimVirgin (talk)


 * OK, maybe an example is in order. Here's the full quotation, with all links working, and no whitelisting needed:
 * "Have encrypted videos of US bomb strikes on civilians http://bit.ly/wlafghan2 we need super computer time http://ljsf.org/"
 * The bit.ly link displays as it should, but if you hover your mouse over it or click on it, you'll see that it goes to the actual source. This way, you aren't modifying the original quotation, you're just using some wiki markup to hyperlink some terms. The final URL in the quotation is hyperlinked by default automatically, but the bit.ly link needs to have its default behavior changed, that's all. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * But that would involve changing the quote. I would like to quote Assange precisely; that is, I want to reproduce what he wrote. Here it is. Is there any reason that quoting this precisely would be problematic? If I change it in any way, I am going to have to add an explanatory note to the footnote about the spam blacklist, and it's just annoying to have to do that. Also, it gives the impression to the uninformed that Assange has somehow used links that needed to be blacklisted. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * When I click that link I see " Have encrypted videos of US bomb strikes on civilians http://bit.ly/wlafghan2 we need super computer time http://ljsf.org/ ", no hyperlinks at all. So why not quote exactly that in the article, since that seems to be precisely what Assange tweeted. Anomie⚔ 23:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with Anomie, if you don't want to "change the quote" to include hyperlinks, then don't include any hyperlinks; that is, don't even enable the default hyperlinking performed by Wikipedia's page rendering engine. I claim also that you aren't changing the quotation by hyperlinking things in it. That sort of thing is routinely done, particularly for internal wikilinks of certain terms in quotations. All that really matters is the words (the ones that appear if you print the article) are unchanged. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not adding a hyperlink, though I am also not adding nowiki. I am copying and pasting the words of this tweet, exactly as they appear, which means it links by default, as it did on Twitter, i.e. as it did in the original quote. But when I try to save the article, I'm told I can't because of the spamlist. Therefore, I have come here to ask that that link (just that one) be whitelisted, so that I can save my edit. Rather than continuing to tell me there's no need to add this link (there is never a need), can someone please explain what would be problematic about reproducing this particular link? We have a situation here where this list is interfering with content and with accuracy. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Slimvirgin, here is what he tweeted: "Have encrypted videos of US bomb strikes on civilians http://bit.ly/wlafghan2 we need super computer time http://ljsf.org/" . And that is exactly what you can quote.  For me, in that tweet you show us (this tweet), the two hyperlinks are not working, so if you capture the whole sentence in nowikis then you are NOT changing the quote (in fact, Julian Assange type the characters out of the sentence, that is what he wrote, software is converting it to hyperlinks.
 * I have accurately quoted him, and hence, I don't see a reason to whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 03:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Examiner Interview with Matt Noveskey
Please add the following page: 1. examiner.com/article/matt-noveskey-talks-life-outside-blue-october 2. For this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Noveskey 3. It is useful because it is an interview with the subject of the article which contains relevant information to the article, and is not spam and should not be black listed. 4. I understand that www.examiner.com is on the black list for spam (not sure why) but this specific page is not spam. Thanks 207.98.141.6 (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Please obtain the support of an established user or WikiProject. without prejudice. Stifle (talk) 16:46, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Request for edit on Denver
''' ERROR! Link blocked; could not save page! Had to remove link summary! Please ensure that this page is exempted from the filter!''' Attempted to make legitimate edit to Denver and the associated talk page, using an Examiner reference. Since my attempted edits were filtered, I am hosting my edits as text documents here (attempted page edit) and here (attempted talk page edit to bottom section of page ). Copy and paste the text into the appropriate places to generate a diff so you can see the edit. Thanks. 75.53.218.81 (talk) 23:39, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: I have made an edit to Denver and the respective talk page. The reference was of course blocked, so I ask that this request still be looked into. '''I also had to modify the header since the spam filter is now being triggered when it was not triggered before. Please ensure that this page is exempted from the filter! ''' Thanks. 75.53.218.81 (talk) 21:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * One way that you could do it is to omit the http — if you're trying to place a link to http://www.example.com and the system blocks you, simply write www.example.com and the software won't realise that it's a link, so it won't try to block you. Nyttend (talk) 02:30, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Just to reinstate the data. We are talking about:


 * examiner.com/wacky-questions-in-national/is-denver-really-the-mile-high-city

--Dirk Beetstra T C 13:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * per /Common requests. Stifle (talk) 16:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Bad 25 Release Details PDF
Particular URL is for a official document linked to by the MJ Online Team (The Michael Jackson Estate) HERE. At this point in time this is the only official source. This is to be used as a citation on Bad 25 until a better source is found.
 * static.ow.ly/docs/MJ%20BAD25%20Release_Dbm.pdf
 * static.ow.ly/docs/MJ%20BAD25%20Release_Dbm.pdf
 * , unsigned request, unlikely to be a reliable source. Stifle (talk) 16:33, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

www.examiner.com/martial-arts-in-san-francisco/molly-hale-an-incredible-martial-artist-making-a-difference
Requesting the whitelist status of the examiner.com article which would allow people to acknowledge Molly Hale's ability to do Aikido despite that she was deemed a paralytic from the neck down after her accident. It could also help to inspire people who suffer similar issues. The article which would benefit Moment by Moment: The Healing Journey of Molly Hale (film) 99.24.220.45 (talk) 04:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)june flowerchild
 * , request from unregistered user, see /Common requests Stifle (talk) 16:35, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

pantheon.org
Creating mythology articles for Wikipedia for example Alitha (Judiac Mythology), and I would like pantheon.org/articles/a/alitha.html. Unsure why the website is blocked.--Mjs1991 (talk) 03:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It was added after [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=367663107#Unreliable_source_alert:_.22Encyclopedia_Mythica.22_.28pantheon.org.29 this discussion], due to concerns that it contained unreliable information. Anomie⚔ 05:36, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * , website blocked as unreliable/user-generated content; therefore any information on this site ought to be available elsewhere. It would be OK for external linking (and there's a whitelist exception for the Encyclopedia Mythica article, but it isn't OK to use as a reference. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:00, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Page; suite101.com interview with DJ Paul Rudd


I am in the process of constructing an article about Paul Rudd (DJ). I would like to cite an interview of him on suite101.com as a reference. /article/interview-with-dj-paul-rudd-sound-of-london-a402049#ixzz1yM3SlWUB. I appreciate requests to unblock this site are frequently denied, but this appears to be a legitimate interview. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 08:50, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone, please. Daicaregos (talk) 20:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Still hoping for a response here. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 10:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Could someone take a look at this please. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 07:20, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience. I see about 1 million links to non-suite101.com interviews with DJ Paul Rudd, so I am hesitant to whitelist a link to a site that is blacklisted globally (not just on en-Wikipedia) because of too much past abuse. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:09, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of those links relate to Paul Rudd, the American actor. The suite101 interview is with the English DJ of the same name. But thanks anyway for looking at the request. Daicaregos (talk) 11:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * , not a reliable source. Stifle (talk) 16:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Traditio-ru.org


I would like Traditio site to be unblocked, due to the fact that its Russian site and had issues with Russian Wikipedia in the past, but not anymore. It have nothing against the English Wikipedia, or any other Wikipedias for that matter, except for maybe Russian, that as mentioned was in the past in 2007. Since that year, the site have improved, and in order for it to be even more improved Wikipedia and Traditio should work together, and all of the users there agreed with it. Not to mention, there are users that joined on both Russian and English Wikipedias and Traditio as well, and treat both sites with respect. Again, as said before, we need to work together, and by blocking a specific site we only create divisions between the Russian people. Traditio promises that they will not agitate against Wikipedia, and I seen all by myself that it have been minimized. So, I hope people will understand that blocking will result into more division of users, noty to mention, some people might even want to use this site for some projects. I for example, like both sites, and I know some users that migh agree with me here.

Sincerely Wikipedia/Traditio user,

--Mishae (talk) 15:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * S. meta:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2012-04#traditio.ru / traditio-ru.org --DR (talk) 20:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Like this?:
 * This page is to request that one or a few specific named pages from a blocked website be permitted. Requests for full removal need to go at m:Talk:Spam blacklist. I'll leave this open for a short while in case the requester wishes to specify some pages; otherwise it will be closed with no action. Stifle (talk) 16:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * So, does it mean that you will unblock the site or it means that you wont? I would like the whole site to be unblocked, as I mentioned above. I don't undertand what do you mean by "specifying some pages"?--Mishae (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It means I won't, because you've requested in the wrong place and I don't have the access to unblock it. If you only wanted a few specific pages from that site unblocked, I would have the power to do so. I don't have the power to unblock the entire site, and to request that you would need to go to the other page I linked just above. Stifle (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, they refused to unblock it back then, so another Wikipedian told me to come here. O.K. Can you unblock at least the main page?--Mishae (talk) 18:05, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please specify the exact URL you want unblocked. Stifle (talk) 19:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * How do I do it, if I can't even put the home page here?!--Mishae (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

traditio-ru.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0.htm
 * That page has zero content; in fact it says (tranlsated to English) "is currently no text in this page."
 * When making white-listing requests you must tell us two things: (1) the specific URL you want white-listed (you have done that), and (2) the reason you want it white-listed; that is, in what article you intend to use the link.
 * There is no reason for us to white-list a page that has no content. ~Amatulić (talk) 15:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with Amatulic. That link leads to, a non existent page. In addition to the reasoning explained to you here, traditio-ru.org is Non-English-language content and a Link normally to be avoided and fails Wikipedias specific requirements of our External Links policy, Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. --Hu12 (talk) 16:00, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, your reasoning beat me, but it shouldn't have been blacklisted in the first place just because somebody on Russian Wikipedia was unhappy with them. Keep in mind they are former Wikipedians, that didn't understood the project, although with time and with joint effort we can succeed. Question: Are any of you are friends of DR or Saint Johann?--Mishae (talk) 02:20, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Parker examiner page


www.examiner.com/article/monsanto-and-big-6-pesticide-corporations-funding-effort-to-stop-gmo-labeling

BTW: The policy of not allowing users to post these URLs seems insanely restrictive to me. Like, I'm still allowed to write an unsourced sentence that says whatever I want... but here I have a well-sourced article that I want to cite, and I just can't because it's automatically spam? I understand that someone stands to profit from the link... but this is true of larger sources as well. Some of which are actually less trustworthy. groupuscule (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you read /Common requests, which details the major issues with this site? Stifle (talk) 17:05, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. Have you read my response, which addresses the arguments contained therein? The NYT and any other news source profits from visitors to its pages. If profit motive invalidates a source, then only blogs should be allowed. I'm really frustrated that I'm not allowed to cite a clearly well-researched news article for over a month after I try to edit it in, and that barriers to the free flow of information are being built into the underlying texture of Wikipedia. groupuscule (talk) 19:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The difference is, there is no incentive to spam a link to a NYT article for profit, whereas the entire business model of examiner.com is set up to encourage link spamming activity. Examiner.com is blacklisted because it has amply demonstrated in the past that it is a magnet for link spamming.
 * Also, most requests for whitelisting links to examiner.com are unnecessary because alternative sources exist for similar information. For example:
 * http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/big-chemical
 * ...which cites as the source: http://www.beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/?p=7814
 * Based on what I can find, several other sources refer to the beyondpesticides article, and I wouldn't be surprised if the author of that examiner.com article merely summarized it, because that appears to be the source of the quotations used in the article. Therefore, this request is . ~Amatulić (talk) 16:20, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Unblock Examiner.com
I have been working on List of Mitt Romney presidential campaign endorsements, 2012 and I found two supporters but I need the site in order to prove that there is evidence of support.Suite1408 (talk) 15:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please read /Common requests.
 * This page is for requesting white-listing of specific URLs, not whole web sites. . ~Amatulić (talk) 16:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Ardis Chedore Article with Book references
Ardischedore (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)-Ardis-Ardischedore (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * article: http://www.lulu Dot com/spotlight/ardischedore (as well as others on the lulu dot com site related to ardis chedore)
 * I have read /Common requests
 * Article to be used in: Ardis Chedore
 * The books listed on the link are that of Ardis Chedore and not all are available on other sites. Her history is listed there as well as contact information.
 * I cannot find other listings of her books
 * I cannot find other listings of her books
 * Article does not exist. Link is to "Ardis's Store" which is a Link normally to be avoided and fails Wikipedias specific requirements of our External Links policy, Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Equally Wikipedia is not a place to to promote Ardis Chedore. It also appears your account is being used for promotion of a person, with a username that implies that this has been done by that person. See Conflict of interest. --Hu12 (talk) 22:06, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

fluoridealert.org

 * Article: 50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation. Paul Connett, PhD. Fluoride Action Network. 2012-09-15. www.fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/. Accessed on 2012-09-21. This resource is extensively footnoted.
 * Reason: I attempted to add this citation to Further reading. It is a very well-footnoted article citing fifty succinct objections to water fluoridation, most of which are, inexplicably, not mentioned in the article itself. My intention was to add this citation (with   , verbatim as in the Article clause above), and later, time permitting, do some copyedit in Statements against to summarise some representative, missing objections (with good footnotes from the article).  If I get hit by a bus, it would help someone else to do the same. The article is published on several other sites, but this one seems to be the best quality and most recently updated.


 * It seems as though much of the actual controversy has been edited out of Water fluoridation controversy, an article purporting to be a summary of the controversy itself. Reading 50 Reasons, then Water fluoridation controversy shows the latter to be somewhat lopsided, or at least paltry in its treatment of the controversy. I was making reference to Wikipedia in the first instance to find certain objections to water fluoridation which I had heard discussed on NPR, but was surprised to find zero mention of them.  My feeling is that Wikipedia should not fail with an omission like this.  This fluoridealert.org article recalled what I thought was missing, and more.


 * For my immediate purposes, I need only the article cited. The mere addition of this citation would make a large incremental improvement to the article with a small, brief effort.


 * That said, I see no good reason to block fluoridealert.org as a whole. It is a well-composed site, and perhaps ought to be added into External links, though I am admittedly less familiar with current policy on External link sections.


 * Thank you for your attention in this matter,


 * -SM 07:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked due to abuse and failing as a reliable source. Seems there are plenty of alternatives to choose from avaliable.--Hu12 (talk) 19:25, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * How does it fail as a reliable source? Although it appears quite reliable as a source on the topic of fluoridation itself, remember that it need only be a reliable source on the topic of fluoridation controversy.  Also, the link abuse only cites WP:EL, and doesn't substantiate a failure of WP:RS.  Given the poor treatment of the opposed viewpoint, I wonder what has really been going on here in this article. The lopsidedness of this article is far worse an outcome than any alledged dammage by spam, which I now see as doubtful. -SM  21:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Advocacy sites are rarely accepted as reliable sources for obvious reasons of bias. As Hu12 noted, there are plenty of sources available that easily pass WP:RS. ❌ OhNo itsJamie  Talk 21:33, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Advocacy sites are cited all over Wikipedia, including notably the ADA with respect to water floridation. The assertion, rarely accepted as reliable sources doesn't hold up.  It really doesn't hold up to say that an advocacy site is not reliable with respect to its own participation in a controversy. Finally, the site is publishing a paper, its own reliability extends only to whether it has accurately done so.  Where is the evidence of unreliability?
 * This ban is only serving to reinforce clear, deliberate bias, not to improve the encyclopedia. To read Water fluoridation controversy, one would conclude that this is a dated, red-scare issue without current scientific relevance. This is clearly false.  This is a clear bias fail for Wikipedia.  Please undo this.
 * -SM 00:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)


 * "This ban is only serving to reinforce clear, deliberate bias...clear bias fail for Wikipedia."
 * Attempting to achieve whitelisting by tossing unfounded accusations at others is unacceptable, particularly when clear evidence of abuse and sockpupetry have been provided to you. Understand that spamming and sockpuppetry are prohibited under official Wikipedia policy of long standing. Closing as Vexatious --Hu12 (talk) 01:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Two Village Residents in Swedish Lapland, Where The Train Stops

 * trifter.com/europe/united-kingdom/two-village-residents-in-swedish-lapland-where-the-train-stops/ Title is: Two Village Residents in Swedish Lapland, Where The Train Stops.
 * Reason: An interesting article about a place in Sweden which we have an article about. Not much else in English can be found on the web. --BIL (talk) 15:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Reason: An interesting article about a place in Sweden which we have an article about. Not much else in English can be found on the web. --BIL (talk) 15:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This was blacklisted for spamming. Indications are that it is a self-written site and isn't very reliable. I will leave this open for another while during which time you can convince me not to deny the request. Stifle (talk) 17:12, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * User was notified of reply and has been editing since; no response = Stifle (talk) 20:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Examiner.com (yes, I know...) sub-page
Yes, I know that Examiner.com is rarely ever whitelisted, and for good reasons. And I have read Common requests. I think there may still be grounds for whitelisting the relevant sub-page.

The present article on Kai Tak Airport asserts that the History Channel designated it the 6th most dangerous airport in the world in a DVD of the 10 most dangerous airports. I don't own the DVD, but a quick Google search certainly seems to confirm that. However, the various options for a link to substantiate the comment are: the History Channel page selling the DVD (violates the commerciality rule, and doesn't actually state the relvant info); various BitTorrent sites (can't imagine that is a good idea); various YouTube clips (not too sure about that either) or the Examiner article.

Accordingly, notwithstanding all the (justified) negative comment about the Enquirer, it seems to me to be a fairly harmless way to substantiate a point which adds a lot of punch to the relevant article, and to which there are not many ready alternatives.

--Legis (talk - contribs) 08:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If there is no appropriate link for an offline source such as a DVD, it is perfectly acceptable to simply not include a link. BTW, you may want to add an identifier to the existing citation, if you can find one that is appropriate. Anomie⚔ 16:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Best Things On Earth

 * Articles:Colin Larkin, All Time Top 1000 Albums
 * A link to the site would be useful in Colin Larkin's "info box" section of the article, since he is the CEO of the company. Wikipedia articles for similar companies/individual's websites have a URL to the site in the "info box", for example Kayak.com, Zillow, Quora and Wolfram Alpha.
 * Also, I would like to add the BestThingsOnEarth logo to the "info box" but I cannot upload a logo and attribute the image to a screenshot from BestThingsOnEarth because the URL is blacklisted. How can I cite the image as a screenshot?
 * Also I would like to add a link to the "How It Works" section of btoe.com (www.btoe.com/how-it-works) in the articles Colin Larkin and All Time Top 1000 Albums since the website and the book share a common 'how it works' history and were both developed by Colin Larkin
 * Disclosure: I am a contributor to the newly launched Best Things On Earth. The article has been discussed on the COI Noticeboard and the Spam-blacklist.Pamela Gardiner (talk) 11:52, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please open a discussion at WP:RSN to request approval of these links. Stifle (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have now opened a discussion at WP:RSNPamela Gardiner (talk) 08:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ as WP:RSN did not reach a consensus that the source was reliable (cf archive 133). Stifle (talk) 20:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been waiting for a reply from WP:RSN and I've just added additional information. The website in question is referenced and linked to the named Colin Larkin in this current BBC Entertainment News article, written by BBC Reporter Mark Savage, published 7.10.12 Chart attack: The Beatles' rivals in 1962. Hopefully this will help WP:RSN reach a consensus. Thanks for your help.Pamela Gardiner (talk) 21:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Criteria asked for has not been met and repeatedly re posting it is Tendentious and exasperates the time of other editors. Aside from the obvious Sock puppetry and Spam abuse which resulted in blacklisting, we typically do not whitelist domains in response to those who are associated and were also involved with spamming the domain. In addition, its a Link normally to be avoided and fails Wikipedias specific inclusion requirements of our External Links policy, Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. If a specific link might be needed as a citation, it can at a later date, be requested on a case-by-case basis by an etablished editor (absent of WP:COI), where the url can be demonstrated as a reliable, verifyable and appropriate source when there are no other reasonable alternatives available. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - as such many links do not belong here. Equally Wikipedia is not a place to to promote this site. closing--Hu12 (talk) 15:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Criteria asked for has not been met and repeatedly re posting it is Tendentious and exasperates the time of other editors. Aside from the obvious Sock puppetry and Spam abuse which resulted in blacklisting, we typically do not whitelist domains in response to those who are associated and were also involved with spamming the domain. In addition, its a Link normally to be avoided and fails Wikipedias specific inclusion requirements of our External Links policy, Verifiability Policy and Reliable Source guidelines. If a specific link might be needed as a citation, it can at a later date, be requested on a case-by-case basis by an etablished editor (absent of WP:COI), where the url can be demonstrated as a reliable, verifyable and appropriate source when there are no other reasonable alternatives available. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - as such many links do not belong here. Equally Wikipedia is not a place to to promote this site. closing--Hu12 (talk) 15:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Examiner.com article on The Walking Dead video game
I would like to use the article www.examiner.com/article/walking-dead-video-game-launches-today on The Walking Dead (2012 video game) to show that the game was written by Sean Vanaman. JenniBees (talk) 21:22, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have read /Common requests
 * I have read /Common requests
 * This source covers that base, and as such whitelisting is unnecessary here. ❌ OhNo itsJamie Talk 23:39, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That link shows that he was the project leader for The Walking Dead. The link I linked to showed that he's the writer as well, and it's the only link that I could find to verify it.  I've verified it myself that he was also the writer and it is factual, but I can't just add him to the writer field in the infobox without a reference as that's original research.  That's why I asked for the link to be whitelisted. JenniBees (talk) 00:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Other links:
 * http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/04/12/walking-dead-video-game-no-child-is-safe/
 * http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/gamereport/walking_dead_episode_preview_with_jYYgoFSQTLnVchpDxtQ6AP
 * found in about 30 seconds by Googling for "Sean Vanaman" "walking dead" writer. Seems to be plenty of sources that verify he's a writer and designer of the game. No need to white-list yet another examiner.com link. Again, . ~Amatulić (talk) 04:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Free Republic Article on Oolong the rabbit
I would like to use the comments from the article www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136189/posts (specifically www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136189/posts#comment) as a citation to show that most reactions to Oolong_(rabbit), the rabbit who balanced things on its head, on the Internet were positive. The article is simply a re-post of the original story from Syberpunk.com which was cited extensively as having started the internet hype, however the freerepublic.com article has comments. A citation was requested and it's very difficult to find sources that detail people's reaction on the Internet.Tucoxn (talk) 00:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have read /Common requests
 * I have read /Common requests
 * for the following reasons:
 * First, we should reference the original source, not a re-publisher.
 * Second, user-generated content isn't even acceptable for external linking (see WP:ELNO), so such content is certainly not acceptable for use as a reference.
 * Please use the original source. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

ehow.com


www.ehow.com is blocked, but I need it because a new page I patrolled turned out to be a copyright infringment of a page on that site --TheChampionMan1234 05:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Just leave of the 'http://' from the link, then you can post it. That link to the original does not need to be clickable, as long as it is clear where it is.    --Dirk Beetstra T  C 06:04, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw you did just that. Thanks.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 06:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=16471 on the black metal article
I am requesting to use www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=16471 on the black metal article; it sources Sacramentum as a blackened death metal band. --Nite-Sirk (talk) 02:47, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have read /Common requests
 * . Googling for the keywords "sacramentum black death metal" yields plenty of alternative sources that make the same assertion. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:06, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just turned on the computer one hour ago. I think I will keep it as a source, unlinked. Two short comments: First, I used that review as a source because googling "sacramentun blackened death metal" gave me many results of which only The Metal Observer seems reliable and uses the term "Blackened Death Metal". Second, I wanna know why is The Metal Observer blacklisted. --Nite-Sirk (talk) 16:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

www.justjaredjr.com/2012/04/01/taylor-swift-kids-choice-awards-2012 on article Taylor Swift


A request to add only this specific website to reference Taylor Swift article and pic in winning an award for her multiple charitable organizations. The news was also repeated elsewhere and televised, so it isn't an unverified item, and it is a good pic of her with Michelle Obama. I don't understand why this entertainment source is blacklisted entirely. According to its 'About' section, "...Today, JustJared.com and Just JaredJr.com receive over 14 million unique visitors a month. Just Jared was recently named to Yahoo’s prestigious Top 10 Bloggers Roll (alongside the Huffington Post & TMZ) and was previously highlighted by Vanity Fair & InStyle as one of the world’s leading Entertainment Sites." Can someone please explain the reason for blacklisting the entire site? I presume JustJared.com is also blacklisted. If they are for a legitimate reason (please explain), can you allow this one reference on Taylor Swift's page? Thank you. Katydidit (talk) 21:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Whilst we are not obligated to justify the decision to blacklist a page, it appears this was blocked as a blog, and there is no evidence it is a reliable source. Has that changed? Stifle (talk) 16:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * FYI, here are the original blacklist log entries:


 * The blacklisting administrator (now no longer active on Wikipedia) noted that domain as possibly hosting copyright violations.


 * I notice the same content appears at:
 * http://sinchronicitymagazine.com/2012/04/taylor-swift-wins-kids-choice-blimp-award/
 * I don't know if one site is stealing content from the other or perhaps they're both legally using the same syndicated news source.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:42, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * due to lack of reply. Stifle (talk) 20:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

www.examiner.com/article/paul-triple-h-levesque-gives-an-insider-view-of-inside-out-and-the-wwe
ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 19:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * To be used in citing a new "development" section on the article Inside Out (2011 film).
 * The page itself is a transcript of an interview the author carried out with the lead actor of the film and goes into some detail on the production process (in the actor's own words - there appears to be no conjecture/spurious original reseach by the author).
 * As the film was a low-budget B-movie, there is a dearth of sources which go into such detail.
 * As the film was a low-budget B-movie, there is a dearth of sources which go into such detail.
 * Have you read /Common requests? Stifle (talk) 16:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * due to lack of reply. Stifle (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Free Republic page
I am trying to cite a freerepublic page that has the text for an article from 10 years ago that I cannot find in archives. If i post the link it says its spam. the link it this (just remove the space between "free and" "republic") www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669175/posts   DarkChaos27 (talk) 07:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify why you feel this is a reliable source? Stifle (talk) 17:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ due to lack of reply. Stifle (talk) 20:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Polock Johnny's


www.examiner.com/article/polock-johnny-s-a-baltimore-favorite-since-1921

Writing an article on this restaraunt, and would like to use this source for historical references. Fasttimes68 (talk) 18:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you read /Common requests? Stifle (talk) 17:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ due to lack of reply. Stifle (talk) 20:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

examiner.com article on upcoming Paul McCartney DVD release and television special
First off, I would like to mention that this is my first time making such a request, so forgive me if the format isn't perfect...

1. I am not asking for examiner.com to be whitelisted in its entirety, but rather just a specific link to a specific article. I am currently editing an already existing Wikipedia page that would greatly benefit from the information that this page offers. I have looked for this same information on other articles on other sites, but have been unable to find it in its entirety as it is shown in this particular article. The information in this article is pertinent to the page I am editing.

2. The specific page that I have been referring to that would benefit from the whitelisting of this article is the iTunes Live from Capitol Studios page. However, it is also worth mentioning that this is part of a larger chronology of albums released by Paul McCartney and, in addition, this article also mentions specific information regarding a future DVD release that will company the page I am editing. Therefore, the page may be useful again in the future once the DVD (and the accompanying tv special) is released.

3. The link to the specific article in question is as follows: www.examiner.com/article/slideshow-first-look-at-photos-for-new-paul-mccartney-pbs-tv-special

Link summary:

Thank you very much for your time. Hay264 (talk) 16:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you read /Common requests? Stifle (talk) 17:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * due to lack of reply. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

lemairesoft.sytes.net

 * subsites:
 * lemairesoft.sytes.net:1944
 * lemairesoft.sytes.net:1945
 * Reason: sytes.net is blocked since 2006 on meta because it has been spammed before. However, this particular website, lemairesoft.sytes.net, hosts a website containing a lot of useful informations on WWII weapons, planes and ships. It has even been cited on other websites. Could it be possible to add it to the whitelist ? Thanks a lot. Gonzolito Pwet 12:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Reason: sytes.net is blocked since 2006 on meta because it has been spammed before. However, this particular website, lemairesoft.sytes.net, hosts a website containing a lot of useful informations on WWII weapons, planes and ships. It has even been cited on other websites. Could it be possible to add it to the whitelist ? Thanks a lot. Gonzolito Pwet 12:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)


 * What makes this a reliable source? Stifle (talk) 16:11, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ due to lack of reply. Stifle (talk) 20:03, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Troubleshooting and problems
Hi,

I've create a page misnamed "[Editing ISO/IEC JTC1/SC36]"instead of [ISO/IEC JTC1/SC36]. This new page was marked for deletion yesterday. I've explained the difference between SC 34 page and this new SC36 to the editor. After the editor unmarked the page for deletion, it was move to WP:BLACKLIST. If there is an offending link, could you please advice me and move back the page to WHITELIST so that I can continue with edition. Thanks. --108.161.117.248 (talk) 01:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Here is the message that I received from the editor who first marked the page for deletion:

''I actually noticed that they were different articles, so I undid my nomintation for speedy deletion. However, I tried to move the page myself and discovered that the title was on our WP:BLACKLIST. I'm not an admin, so I can't override it. I'm not quite sure why, but you can ask someone to change the page title at WP:RM. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 21:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)''


 * I managed to move the page to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC36 without any problem. Even though I'm an admin, I am not exempt from being blocked from inserting something that's blacklisted.


 * As a further test, I copied the entire article content to Sandbox which would also trigger the blacklist. Nothing, no error. I'm not sure what caused the problem you experienced, but if it happens again, please drop me a note on my talk page and I'll investigate. ~Amatulić (talk) 02:49, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe the title blacklist? (which admins can override).. -- Versa geek  02:58, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I can't see anything on Titleblacklist that would trigger on that title. But then it's almost humanly impossible to scan that thing with a mental regex. As the OP said, there's already another article with a very similar title (different only by a digit in it).
 * Even if admins can override it, wouldn't I get some sort of warning? ~Amatulić (talk) 05:48, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is the following line in MediaWiki:Titleblacklist:
 * .*\p{Lu}(\P{L}*\p{Lu}){9}.*  # Disallows moves with more than nine consecutive capital letters
 * That will match any title that has 10 or more uppercase letters in a row without any intervening lowercase letters, but will block moves only and not page creations. Note that admins (and accountcreators) can override the title blacklist, just not the spam blacklist. Anomie⚔ 16:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed changes to the way this page is constructed

 * It would be helpful if we could "watch" just the section associated with our request using the template/subpage mechanism that DYK and GAN use, for example. Woz2 (talk) 11:24, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I support Woz2's suggestion. An easy way to do that would be similar to how Articles for Deletion discussions are separate, but listed on a group page for easy ways to find them. Spidey  104  14:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't support this, although I don't oppose either. I think this suggestion is more practical for things like WP:AFD or WP:SPI, where you have discussion among several participants. Here, there's really no discussion, just a request by one person and an answer by an admin. Also, we wouldn't want to structure this page on a schedule like AFD either, since there are comparatively few admins participating here and some requests remain open for months. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Question
Are the requests on this page need every time a formal closure? Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0  05:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just an icon with the result is sufficient for most cases. This page is prone to bad faith requests and sometimes a little more force is necessary to shut spammers up. MER-C 10:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)