Module talk:GetShortDescription

subst
Hi there, just noticed a bit of oddness when using subst: Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 10:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * → country in South America
 * → country in South America
 * → country in South America
 * → country in South America
 * Huh. Looks like the last one is getting the wikidata, which means the penultimate, requesting only the explicit, is not getting the wikidata as a fallback and is thus empty. Sorry this came up now; I'm genuinely on my last legs for the day. I will attack it after some sleep. The explicit request requires preprocessing to handle weirdly configured (gotta account for weird stuff or it falls apart when it meets it) short desc templates, because lua's pattern matching is no match for grown-up regex. My guess is that the preprocessing is being bullied during the substitution. Possibly a frame problem; frames are weird. I'll figure it out ASAP.  10:57, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah; almost certainly a frame issue; via template it's fine:

11:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * oh I derp; of course it just dumped the invoke on the page and left; I really need to sleep  11:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The substitution happens before the preprocessing, so the preprocessing never happens. This leaves the found short desc template in its raw state and the pattern matching for the content fails, so we get the empty string for explicit, and the wikidata fallback otherwise. I will have to manually process the short desc template. This isn't so bad. But to put into perspective why I am not doing it right now; I just past 25 hours awake and it really feels like it. See ya tomorrow 😜  13:04, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no hurry! Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 17:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Btw, there's really no rush wrt to the GAN usage; don't want to hurry your development time. For I was thinking of starting with the code used in, as I've already gotten that to work, and it seems good enough to start with. We can later switch to your module version when it's ready; perhaps in sync with when Template_talk:Annotated_link concludes. How does that sound to you? Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 04:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Absolutely great if that works for you 😊 This all started to replace the template code of which is already horrible to maintain and will only get worse, so eventually that template will being using this module anyway 😁 Substituting is always a pain; the existence of various kludges to get around the issue is proof of it; safesubst, subst and all kinds of weird breaking of inclusion tags... The removal of preprocessing from the module will improve performance anyway, so it's good to do even if not for fixing the substitution issue.   04:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Fixed in my test Module; needs more testing before pushing 09:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * → Country in South America
 * → Country in South America

Pushed to release; nice little performance boost too: Old

NewPP limit report Parsed by mw1351 Cached time: 20230124093803 Cache expiry: 1814400 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, vary‐page‐id, show‐toc] CPU time usage: 0.276 seconds Real time usage: 0.339 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 566/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 20103/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 744/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 14/100 Expensive parser function count: 7/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 4974/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.208/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 15322087/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 New

NewPP limit report Parsed by mw1478 Cached time: 20230124094020 Cache expiry: 1814400 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, vary‐page‐id, show‐toc] CPU time usage: 0.184 seconds Real time usage: 0.237 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 566/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 20103/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 744/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 14/100 Expensive parser function count: 7/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 4974/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.138/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 15322564/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400  09:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

For the record: there's still a problem; it's just a different problem. 12:50, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

I think I fixed it; it's plugged into Module:Annotated link and the results are pretty nifty:

Code:

Result:

And yes, it works if it's substed 😉  21:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Alright, now testing Oceania, where the WP shortdesc is "Geographical region in the Pacific Ocean":
 * → geographic region that includes Australasia, Melanesia, Micronesia and Polynesia
 * Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 07:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I wonder when I broke it? Poor timing; I have to go out for a bit; I'll get right on it when I get home.  07:42, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I did check it was working, but obviously wasn't paying close enough attention.  10:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 07:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I wonder when I broke it? Poor timing; I have to go out for a bit; I'll get right on it when I get home.  07:42, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I did check it was working, but obviously wasn't paying close enough attention.  10:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I see "Result: table" a couple of times in the documentation - is that intentional? Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 05:31, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a side effect of alterations not yet properly documented while I work on stabilising the configuration. Tables are returned by the invocation under some circumstances; that's actually inthe docs somewhere... It's on the todo list.  05:38, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Using this module
I see a lot of talk discussing the term "table" being the only thing returned from this, which is the problem I've run into. I see the discussion last was mentioned in February. Any progress, resolution, workaround, or tool that can get just the description returned from an annotated link? Thanks! GeogSage ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 22:06, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The term "table" isn't returned; the module returns a table of data, kinda like an object in JavaScript, which will include various accessible bits of data depending on the use case and results. The word table shows up in text when this is directly invoked (I should get around to rewriting the docs some day) as an effect of stringification (the parser tries to make the best of the situation by stating that there's a table, bless it). Another module importing this'n would be able to probe the table for all the data it carries and use it as required, as Module:Annotated link does. If you tell me what you're trying to achieve, I can maybe help, perhaps by building another module that imports this'n, and outputs the description as raw text?  14:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation! I'm currently trying to teach JavaScript to myself while winging the Wikipedia markup language.
 * My plan is mostly just trying to practice a bit and push things on tables. I'm trying to build a table for my user page for pages created, with columns for page, page description, date created, etc. Ideally, I'd like to pull the description directly for the table, rather then manually type out the short description, so it will update as time progresses.
 * So instead of:


 * The Markup would look something more like:


 * Again, just me messing around trying to play with things in layouts on my userpage that I can try to use later in more formal pages later. Not a huge emergency. GeogSage  ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 17:36, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you add True it returns text. Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 20:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That's smart; I wish I'd thought of that! All jokes aside; I'm not functioning well right now, so thanks Olivaw :)  22:57, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I put together the basic idea of how I wanted to use this module on my user page if you're interested in seeing how I wanted to use your work. I'm a native Python speaker, so pardon any sloppiness.
 * Ideally, I think this concept might be useful for tables for improving list articles. GeogSage  ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 05:39, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thanks this works fantastic! I really appreciate the help! GeogSage  ( ⚔Chat?⚔ ) 01:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Module:Get short description?
How does this differ from the older Module:Get short description? Should the two be merged? Dpleibovitz (talk) 00:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)