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"Old Ruthenia" fictitious article
An Old Ruthenia was a redirect to Kievan Rus'. An anon just "copy-and-pasted" the Kievan Rus' article into and Old Ruthenia. Seems to be the same fella who recently showed up at several ru- and ua- related articles. The debate is non-trivial. Please look at Votes for deletion/Old Ruthenia debate. Irpen 21:58, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Today, 62.163.35.236 and User:Halibutt, kept changing Kievan Rus and other stuff to "Ruthenian" links in Ukrainian language. I reverted once, but it was of no avail. Maybe, they messed up in other articles that I don't have on my watch list. I think "Old Ruthenia" is a fictitious term and should be deleted. Sashazlv 01:42, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * You're right. Besides, it is often useful to click "user's contribution" link when reverting vandals and strong POV pushers and check where else they stopped by. --Irpen 06:56, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Article deleted as per consensus. --Irpen 20:31, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Vintage postcards
I spruced the articles on Kiev, Kharkov and Odessa up with vintage postcards. I hope that nobody minds, as there are not many contemporary pictures of Ukrainian cities in the English Wiki. --Ghirlandajo 15:50, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Why would anyone possibly mind? Great pictures BTW. I also notice your deleting an image of what was presented as pre-Revolutionary CoA of Kiev. I am sure you knew what you were doing as per your talk:Kiev message and since nobody pounced yet, your correction was also for the better, as it seems. Regards, --Irpen 21:46, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Are there reasons not to move Khersones to Chersonesos?
Please voice your opinion at Talk:Khersones. Thanks! -Irpen July 1, 2005 00:10 (UTC)
 * Done. Article moved. --Irpen 20:31, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Ukrainian language, percentage of speakers
Please take a look and share your thoughts at Talk:Ukrainian_language My entry at talk there may seem controversial but I would hate if it is found as inflammatory. We need to address this issue in an article. And there are several places in WP with similar issues unresolved. Anyway, there is a possiblity than an angered stranger would write an angry response at any time. I would be interested to hear what established editors think of this issue and it needs to be addressed in the article, as I wrote there. Thanks! --Irpen July 7, 2005 19:17 (UTC)
 * As of now, expanded version along with other changes and materials already in the article. --Irpen 20:31, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

A favour

 * message below moved from a different board. --Irpen 20:31, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Could I ask one of you to translate for me this small review of the book about the Ukrainian society in Cracow (1918-1939)? The book is in Polish, I read some Polish reviews, but I'd love to know what 'the other side' sais. If you don't have time to translate this, at least a note whether the review is good or bad would be appraciated. PS. I tried online MT tools but, well, they suck with anything more complex then simple English :> PS2. I have this book and if anyone of you would like me to check for some article any details regarding Ukrainian in Cracow in that time, just let me know. PS3. If you find any other Ukrainian or Russian reviews of this book, I'd appreciate the info. I personally know and highly respect the author of this book, but he doesn't use the net, so I'd love to bring him some (printed) online reviews :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:23, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I will look at it later and will let you know. Thanks! --Irpen 20:31, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Tnx, I will appreciate that. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:00, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Done, I placed a rough tranlsation in Piotrus' sanbox. --Irpen 08:14, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Tnx! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 11:39, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Aleksandra Lisowska
Aka Roxolana. Could anyone confirm that her name is Aleksandra? To my best memory, her name is Anastasiya. At least, she is Anastasiya in Zahrebelnyy's novel. Sashazlv 01:24, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I could only find Anastasia. But the article should be under name "Roxelana" at the first place. Please join the discussion at Talk:Aleksandra Lisowska Thanks for bringing this up. --Irpen 05:19, August 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * please don't forget to register your official vote at talk:Aleksandra Lisowska to have this moved to Roxelana. -Irpen 04:06, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Cossack and post-revolution times in History of Ukraine
Please read recent entries at Talk:Ukrainian People's Republic and Talk:Zaporozhian Host and comment there, if you can. Regards, --Irpen 05:28, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

New template and category "uk-4" (near-native)
New template analogous to en-4 is created and is called for by placing at your user page. I don't know for how many users it would be useful but the message it would show is above. Your name would also be automatically added to the category:user uk-4 list. There are also uk-1,2,3 and uk templates for beginner, intermediate, advanced and "native" levels, respectively. Cheers, --Irpen 17:52, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Announcement of behalf of user:AndriyK
AndriyK asked me to "inform my friends", by which I assume he means what he calls an anti-Ukrainian mafia about his plans. Since many members of the mafia are those who created, maintained and discuss Ukraine's WP coverage at this portal, I thought there is no better place to inform everyone than through this the portal's own announcement board. Here goes copied from User talk:AndriyK to fulfill AndriyK's request:

...These are all valid points but please show at the respective article's talk pages how this rant of yours relates specifically to them.

I could rant in response that WP is not a pamphlet to push fringe Ukrainian nationalist POV into related or unrelated articles, but instead I specifically pointed to you at the articles' talk pages when I found your edits disagreeable. Also, no one responded to your vote fraud (recruiting the absentee voters at outside forums who vote as you told them and left, very similar to Yanuk's tactics) by recruiting voters to inosmi.ru and I claim a partial credit for that because I asked people not to play these games no matter how low you go with yours.

Finally, if you are interested in presenting Ukrainian nationalist views to the world, here is another idea for you. Write a Ukrainian nationalism article and present this ideology there with analysis and references. But writing articles is much harder than correcting Chernigov for Chernihiv in an article I wrote or cutting pieces out of other my or other people's article.

For whatever reasons, there is little support in WP to your destructive behavior and your attempting to ascribe it to the anti-Ukrainian mafia that you imagined shows just how mainstream your views are. --Irpen 04:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Plese do not twist the facts. I am not interested in "presenting Ukrainian nationalist views to the world". I do not support any nationalistic POV. This is your own ill fantasies. I came here to write neutral articles about Ukraine. But I am not going to tolerate somebody using Wikipedia for anti-Ukrainian propaganda. I find the way to stop it. Please inform your freands on my behalf.--AndriyK 08:53, 7 November 2005 (UTC)