Portal talk:Current events/2010 July 14

Mădălina Manole
Let's discuss the sad death of Mădălina Manole here. The text box in the edit tab explicitly says that only the deaths of "persons of extreme prominence" should be included in the Current Events portal. For other persons, we've got Recent deaths. With all due respect to Mădălina Manole, I don't see how she could possibly qualify as a person of extreme prominence. Listing her in Recent deaths is sufficient. 83.80.18.68 (talk) 17:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Item: I see your point and I agree that, with much respect to Ms. Manole, just because something is sad, that doesn't mean it belongs on Current Events. However, suicide is an action someone takes and often has a story behind it, much different than an ordinary death.  When "simply notable" (as opposed to extremely notable) people take an action that makes people take notice, that is news.  That is a current event.  I do not have the time to check for precedent before late tonight; if you have the time now, could you please check to see the result of other discussions of suicides appearing on the Current Events page?  If there's a strong precedent behind your argument, rather than a possibly misapplied guideline, I'm willing to agree with you. Blue Crest (talk) 18:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep due to the nature of the death. Sudden deaths or deaths at a young age are often included and suicide seems about as extreme as it comes. The full sentence is: "Do not list the ordinary deaths of prominent persons here". I always assumed that referred to those people who die every day of natural causes and who are at an age when this is to be expected or at least not particularly surprising. I'd never heard of her before today but if she is a prominent person in her part of the world and has died suddenly at the age of 43 in a part of the world where dying at 43 isn't unusual, why not? -- can  dle • wicke  23:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to restore the item, per Candlewicke's explanation above as well as mine. Along with original poster Eugen Simion 14, that makes 3 in favor of keeping the item and 1 against.  I know Wikipedia isn't a straw poll, but I don't see any consensus at all going the other way.  Thanks. Blue Crest (talk) 00:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)