Portal talk:Current events/2019 September 19

Ben Ali death
Reminder of the guideline: "Do not list the ordinary deaths of prominent persons here. That's what recent deaths is for. Exceptions to this rule are made for prominent persons who died in office (such as Pope John Paul II and Omar Bongo) or other instances where the death in itself has a major impact." Wakari07 (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Ben Ali died of prostate cancer, aged 83. He quit office in 2011. Wakari07 (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Also, his fall did not "begin" the Arab Spring, it was the other way around: the (midwinter) outbreak of the Arab Spring caused him to flee. Wakari07 (talk) 21:51, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

His death is not an event in politics, nor an election; if this has a "major impact," then only in some culture; finally, he was formally president, not dictator (we're here for facts, not opinions stated as facts). Julius Caesar was a dictator, and Garibaldi. Wakari07 (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * He's a very prominent person, but his death appears to be ordinary. He was 83 and battling cancer. That is a sad but straightforward fact of life, unfortunately; people in those circumstances can reasonably be expected to die. 88.111.223.177 (talk) 23:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, in response to this, a certain parallel can be drawn with WP:OTHERSTUFF. 89.240.138.151 (talk) 23:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC)