Portal talk:Current events/2023 August 26

Regarding the Rubiales-Hermoso issue
Rubiales did something that a lot of people disliked - especially the person he did it to. That's a concrete event. Rubiales declining to step down is not a non-event: it's simply another link in the chain of this ongoing story. Over the years there have been many stories on this page that involve people in power refusing to resign after being caught doing something bad, and these stories have been perfectly acceptable, so I'm curious as to why this one in particular merits removal. So curious, in fact, that I've bothered to actually login and undo an edit for the first time in literally years. CountGrey (talk) 14:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I removed the entry as I felt the content of the entry fell under the category of Avoid non-events (i.e. a news story that something did not happen, rather than a story about something that did happen) and speculation without a very good reason, as described on the Instructions Page for Portal:Current Events. Given that the person has been suspended as per the latest amendment to the entry, this would count as an actual event, so I withdraw my objection to the inclusion of the entry. Carter00000 (talk) 16:18, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * As a point of clarification, Rubiales was asked to step down, and he refused to do so. He apologized, but still refused to resign. Refusing to do something is still a concrete action.
 * A non-event would be if Rubiales never offered any statement at all despite the backlash he was facing. Instead, he acknowledged the wrongdoing but then tried to sidestep any consequences, which is not a non-event. He did a thing, faced backlash because of it, admitted he did the thing, and then tried to pretend that what he did has no lasting consequences. Which part of that is a non-event? CountGrey (talk) 22:43, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * For extra clarity, the non-event idea is more aimed at preventing stories like "a person not being charged with a crime, rumors of an event being canceled or postponed, or speculation about the future effects of a law." In this case, this person went on record and stated he wouldn't step down despite what he did. That's pretty concrete. CountGrey (talk) 22:50, 26 August 2023 (UTC)