Portal talk:Current events/Archive 6

where's dat
where is theFISA story?? McCool DJ HEEQ 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Not a news item
"Barry Bonds hits his 756th career home run, passing Hank Aaron for the career home run record in Major League Baseball."

U.S. news? Maybe. North American news? Possibly, but that's stretching it a bit. World news? Not even close. I'll remove it if no one has any objection...--WaltCip 14:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You can't (in ability terms), you're not an admin, only admins can edit the In the news template. With regard to the general notability though... it's news on the BBC, and there have been reports about it on World Service radio and on some foreign press (,, , etc) too. Worldwide enough. – Chacor 14:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The BBC also reports on badminton, ice hockey and traditional Gaelic games, but that doesn't make any of those sports internationally interesting or relevant. In fact, I think that more Wikipedians would be interested in hearing about Hurling, purely out of curiosity -- baseball, to your average, jaded international mind, is simply boring. — Zioroboco 23:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you not notice the other Aussie, British and South African press reports on it I linked? – Chacor 02:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's kind of moot now, but I was never arguing that it wasn't newsworthy. It just wasn't very interesting. Yes, yes, I know I don't speak for everyone when I go about wantonly declaring that some news articles aren't noteworthy -- I just stumbled on the discussion, and put my two cents in. The real debate was going on here — Zioroboco 08:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

date format
Am I going crazy or are the days of the week associated with the dates wrong (August 12, 2007 listed as Saturday instead of Sunday and so forth?) 69.228.207.85 16:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Its the Date data that you have issue with. I have issue with the date format. I use YYYY-MM-DD, the european way on all my computers and can find stuff extrodinary fast. I wonder if I can set my prefrences here... Probiblty not. Artoftransformation 09:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

South America Tab for Current Events Portal
I'm just curious. Why isn't there a tab labled "South America" in the Current Events Portal? OxfordScholar09 00:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

market indices in the sidebar?
Does it make sense to have the market indices in the sidebar? In the absence of a way to dynamically update it, it will always be significantly out-of-date, and it is enough layers of abstraction away from the main page that errors or vandalism may persist for a long time. Since this isn't a financial site, I think we should either pull it out (my preference) or agree on a way to make it dynamically updating and so that edits are only needed to adjust the set of indices. Willhsmit 20:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I say pull it! This sidebar has nothing to do with the idea of ITN, as I understand it. It moves us down the slippery slope of trying to compete with real news websites. Please, concentrate on providing news summaries that are fully linked to good background articles within WP. Awolf002 23:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Removal of tropical cyclone seasons from sidebar
Currently 4 of the 8 "natural disasters" in the ongoing events sidebar are tropical cyclone seasons. Nothing much is going on in 3 of the basins, never mind anything that can be construed as a significant natural disaster. The Atlantic currently has Hurricane Dean, but Hurricane Dean is the disaster not the season. Therefore I propose removing the cyclone seasons from the side-bar; and replace them with individual storms as and when appropriate. If a storm does not have an independent article, we can just link to its section in the seasonal article.

As an aside only the South Asian floods can be said to be current of the others; whilst the Peru earthquake isn't there.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. There's hardly any point in linking to full seasons regardless, as the season itself is not a natural disaster. --Core desat 00:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree. They were useful links to the seasons, and it's not easy to see at a glance which basin individual storms belong to, for example Severe Tropical Storm Fitow and Tropical Storm Gil today, the first being a Pacific typhoon, the second a Pacific hurricane. Or yesterday, Tropical Depression 10-E. TransUtopian 16:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect date for Larry Craig pleading guilty
Larry Craig pleaded guilty on August 8, not August 27. The story broke on August 27 in national news. 71.185.74.177 02:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Finland's digital switchover
Finland ceased its analog tv broadcasts today. Is that important enough news to be listed here? --88.148.195.167 13:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Just add it, with a link to a news report (preferably in English), to the appropriate date. I think it isn't important enough for the headlines section though.- gadfium 20:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Category:2006 by day and 2007 by day
For those watching the CfD discussion on current events categories, my closing decision was keep, but with a recommendation to change the names to Category:2006 current events archives by day and Category:2007 current events archives by day. This would require adjusting the programming on the current events portal, which I hope will occur.--Mike Selinker 14:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

"flora"? WTF?
Noticed a bit of graffiti, but I can't figure out how to clean it up. Admins, help? RageSamurai21655 18:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)\ where?--71.214.126.13 00:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Via Google News
I've just noticed that Google News is setting up its own news pages for items from AP and AFP. Does anyone have thoughts on how permanent or temporary these links might be? — WiseKwai 03:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I feel America should stop interfering in world matters and concentrate more on preventing recession.Doing this they will themselves do a humane service for their own people and also to entire mankind on earth.

HGM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.0.188 (talk) 06:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for Ongoing Armed Conflicts
How about a start date beside each conflict? It would put the Iraq war in perspective to know the Arab - Israeli conflict has been going on since the 1920 Palestine riots Daddylight 03:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, in some/many cases that would be tricky. Since for instance the Arab - Israeli conflict according to the books I read started already around 1850 or so when the first kibbutz's started to violently harassing nearby Palestinian villages. (Don't quote me on the exact year since it was many years since I read those books. And oh, the books I read was written by Jews. I haven't had access to books written by Palestinians yet.) But yeah, even if the dating is not perfect it puts things in perspective. --David Göthberg 05:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Image alternative
I left a message at Template_talk:Current about an alternative "current news/events" image: I think it might interest you people here. --David Göthberg 16:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

SELENE
I think you have a non free image on the first page of wikipedia. This is a JAXA image. The NASA website hosts a large number of images from the Soviet/Russian space agency, and other non-American space agencies. These are not in the public domain. Thank you. 193.56.37.1 08:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Today's report on Shinzo Abbe
This entry needs a reference, and probably the English should be edited, e.g. "fall to his death from the ...tower" "Apparently he committed suicide"Duncan.france 10:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)?

Australian News
Why is there no Australian news in the news forum? Australia is a continent and yet Britain which is more than 5 times smaller then Australia still gets news is it because nothing is wrong in australia? im curious.
 * not saying that it shouldn't (i have no opinion on that), but the austrailian population is a third of brtiain. Do you think Antarctica should have a forum? it is also more than 5 times bigger and a continent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.66.202 (talk) 04:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Formula One auto racing - americanisation!
"The FIA fines... Formula One auto racing team..." whilst 'automobile' can be considered correct british english 'auto racing' (and the shortening of automobile to 'auto') is definately a US term. It can be argued that F1 is international (whilst at its core it is essentially european). But there cannot be the arguement that it is more American than British. let us remember that american is not an international language, so 'its international' is not a valid arguement. These above arguements could be spread to europe (in which case i believe it should be british-eng as the english-language representative of europe), being even stronger. And the fact that the article 'auto racing' uses american-english (i believe perhaps wrongly) is not an excuse either, it is not difficult to do motor racing. ~ Bungalowbill —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 05:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * most teams are based in the UK
 * there has been only one american driver since 1993, who has recently been fired, during this period there have been loads of british drivers, including a world champion, and the current leader.
 * its popularity in the US is far less
 * it is only fairly recently there has been a race in the US, which will not be continued from 2008, whilst the UK, i believe, has featured a race since F1's inception.
 * the current president of the FIA is british, as is the president of the FOA and FOM, Bernie Eccleston.
 * ITN is protected because it's on the main page. Go to WP:ERRORS to suggest changes. --74.14.21.183 17:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Myanma protests
I created a stub at 2007 Myanma anti-government protests, but I haven't got too much time right now; if someone could expand it, that would be great. — Nightstallion 07:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Quality
I think it is about time we discuss the quality of Current events pages. In the last 3 months or so, I have noticed a downfall in the main Current Events page. More and more "less-notable" or highly "local" news seems to be present, obscuring the other news etc. It seems we lack a main-editor that makes proper selections and restyles the reported news items in their proper form. For instance: "The Dutch Cabinet meets to decide whether to hold a referendum on the European Union's Reform Treaty. (BBC)" Now that's cool and all, but who will care about that in 10 years from now? More importantly, the actual outcome of the meeting is nowhere to be found, and the context as to why this is import is lacking as well in this summary. So how do we balance "news" with "events archiving" ??? How do we balance not writing news, but reporting news and how do we balance open editing for all wikipedia users, with properly "editing" the events to get proper articles.

I guess one of the big issues here is that some of the more involved "Current Events" editors in the past seem to be less active now or moved to wikinews and that no one is stepping up to fill the gaps. The other problem is that there is lack of "content guidance" towards the "casual contributor". I'm not very involved here, though i do make the occasional edit, but this seems like issues that need to be fixed. I was thinking that we might ask the Signpost if they would care to drop a note in the next edition, if there are people out there that would like to help improve this situation. Please leave your thoughts and ideas you have on these problems as well, i'd love to think what the other editors think about this. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:Be bold. Sometimes I filter things, out but it feels a little crass if I don't contribute much. I agree with you, but I still like the mix here and the convenience vs. wading through CNN or ABC.com or whatever. A while ago I proposed that we add section headers like economics, human interest, natural events, etc. It just seems the editorial energy is lacking at the moment. I wouldn't blame WikiNews. But if the current everyday readers put in more effort, we could attract more and maybe more will contribute. (And if too many do, the more politics arise.) Potatoswatter 20:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on Current Events Portal
Try as I might, I cannot remove vandalism just above the sidebar (Says "This is B.S."), must be in the protected area? Admin help appreciated (this will probably be fixed before this message post. Keeper76 22:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

On going Conflicts
It should be noted, that the events in Northern Lebanon between Fatah al Islam and the Lebanese army ended on September 2. Over 60 militia men were sentenced in front of a judicial court this week. Wikipedia considers the event an 'On Going Conflict'??--Yozef 18:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Updating
Is this portal updated by hand on change of day or month? Could a bot do it (or some of it - e.g. replacing the month calendar)? I could not find any instructions, so have done the best I could. -- !! ?? 10:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism alert
One vandal has come into the Current events portal. Please, administrators, do what you should. --Lemur12 19:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a pain to tidy up "lost" news templates from vandalism.... And the templates are - unlike the project page - not even protected... --Camptown 20:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Current event dates are protected
Why are all the current event dates protected? I tried to edit the three top ones (September 29, 20 and October 1) but it only lets me look at the source, it says, "This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following pages, which are protected with the "cascading" option: Portal:Current events". What the hell!? How is someone supposed to edit the dates? Whoes stupid idea was this? There has never been any major vandalism on these pages. – Zntrip 01:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks like the User cascading feature was added by User:Maxim. It was probably a mistake or something, so I notified him on his user page. – Zntrip 01:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's taken care of now. – Zntrip 02:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC Thank you for taking this time to read this article

michael is the best thing that happen to brazil they could never go on without him he was what keep them from dieing all them years thats like a god to them i praye to him every night its the only way to go hes the only one i love i dont even care about my mother as much as i care about him hes what keeps me going and going i dont know what i would do without him in my life i whise to one day be with him looking down over brazil letting are love for brazil rain everybody would say that he was the biggest player in brazil but i would just say that he was a pimp so all i could say is keep your pimp hand strong it could never go wrong .....!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.147.94.157 (talk) 14:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

College football item, October 7
This item, in my opinion, is NOT world-news material, and should be deleted.Duncan.france 00:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * agreed--208.79.42.225 16:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree, too, particularly in light of there being a separate page for sports news. Do we have a guideline on this? Sgt Pinback 00:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I edit the headlines?
Hi. There is a mistake in the headlines (which appear on Wikipedia's homepage. How do I edit and correct it? (The mistake - "China take" should be "takes"). Thanks, Happy138 16:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Tokelau Referendum
The referendum which is front page news in Wikipedia is not even front page news in any of the New Zealand newspapers like the New Zealand Herald and not even the top story in any of the news channels as well. Might it be that you got your priorities wrong.--203.211.100.159 21:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Red sox
This is not world news, would the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship or Celtic League winners be posted ?Gnevin 00:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * For the headlines section, please post queries at Template talk:In the news or WP:ITN/C. -- Howard  the   Duck  03:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Nova collapse
I'm not too familiar with CE proceedings. But could someone perhaps look at including something about the financial collapse of Nova (English teaching company), arguable the foremost eikaiwa provider in Japan, and largest employer of native-English-speaking foreigners in that country.--ZayZayEM 02:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Picture
I think it makes sense to have the picture, reflect the top headline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgPyth (talk • contribs) 08:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Slow?
Not a whole lot of storys this month. SG2090 (talk) 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

How about this one:

LAKOTA NATION SECEDES FROM UNITED STATES link: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iVC1KMTOgwiSoMQyT2LwZc9HyAgA

Nah, its not going to happen. SG2090 (talk) 17:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Bush Vetos water bill
President Bush, on November 2nd, 2007, vetoed a $23B/U.S. bill. "said lacks fiscal discipline." []

"This bill lacks fiscal discipline,” Bush said. "This authorization bill makes promises to local communities that the Congress does not have a track record of keeping."

"The bill’s excessive authorization for over 900 projects and programs," he added, "exacerbates the massive backlog of ongoing corps construction projects, which will require an additional $38 billion in future appropriations to complete." Democrat and Republican leaders perdict swift overide. "When we override this irresponsible veto, perhaps the president will finally recognize that Congress is an equal branch of government and reconsider his many other reckless veto threats," said Harry Reid-D. Nevada. Artoftransformation 23:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Note the contrast: []

March 24, 2007 What are peanuts, shrimp, and spinach doing in the Iraq bill? This week the House passed a $124 billion legislation Iraq funding bill that adds $21 billion in domestic pork projects to the $95.5 billion requested by the Administration. The spending includes includes $283 million in milk subsidies, $120 million for the shrimp and menhaden fishing industries, $74 million for peanut storage, $35 million for NASA and $25 million for spinach growers. The Senate version of the overall legislation totals $122 billion.


 * Veto overide Made the main page. Thanks for reading. Artoftransformation 09:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Writer's Guild Strike?
Why is this here? Hardly a world event. Are we going to put a blurb on the front page every time a union goes on strike? Rawr 18:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You and I watch American TV, and by next year there won't be new episodes because of this strike. If a labor union of epic proportions does this (like air traffic controllers) then it could be added. -- Howard  the   Duck  09:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that the writers strike is a news worthy event for a multi-billion dollar industry, but that really does not count it as EPIC porportions. Artoftransformation 09:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, the air traffic controllers strike will be of epic proportions but not the writers' strike. -- Howard  the   Duck  04:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Drug found in toy rewording?
I think the stanza for the GHB drug found in a toy manufacture should be reworded. The "date rape drug" should be removed or reworded so that it does not seem parents are feeding their children date rape drugs, but a drug that just so happens to used as a date rape drug in completely different circumstances. It sounds appalling if you were the parents ("I gave my kid a toy with a date rape drug in it.") and gives and inappropriate impression. -Kain Nihil 00:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Earthquake in Chile
There is a spanish languaje article about it, you can translate it. 201.222.240.235 17:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I have started an article at 2007 Antofagasta earthquake. Mushroom (Talk) 18:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Cyclone Sidr
Please include the news of Cyclone Sidr, you can find more about it here. Thanks --Tarif from Bangladesh 14:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * and also here and here --Tarif from Bangladesh 14:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think time has probably come to add that in the main page, BBC World has reported it as their TOP STORY in their latest World News at 15:00 GMT. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 15:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Death toll rises to 1723, confermed by the armed forces. --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 14:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

IPCC
Keep "The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases its fourth report on climate change, indicating that Earth and humanity are now in permanent danger due to global warming. " in the headlines as long as possbile. I believe that people should become aware of it, even though in say several weeks it won't be news anymore. Nergaal (talk) 06:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC) You may or may not respect the credibility of the IPCC yourself, but the fact remains that the rest of the world does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.99.200.16 (talk) 03:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What you believe is not relevant here. The IPCC is made up of a set of politically-influenced scientists and lobbyists. Their opinions and "factual findings" are just as valid as - say - Christian fundamentalists.--WaltCip (talk) 13:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There are no scientists who are completely free of political leanings, because scientists are human and the money used for research has to come from somewhere. Nevertheless the scientists who make up the IPCC are internationally accredited researchers, and their professional findings do, indeed, make the baseline standards for world research. Their credibility is in no way comparable to, say, Christian fundamentalist creationists, and isn't that an interesting analogy for you to choose?
 * Untrue. See Junkscience.com.--WaltCip (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Mainpage violating WP:WTA
Is there a reason the mainpage is linking to "Prophet Muhammad," an honorific, in violation of WP:WTA? Jose João 19:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Iran and nukes
Shouldn't the bold link to Nuclear program of Iran rather than Iran and weapons of mass destruction? It's referring specifically to the Nuclear program of Iran. SGGH speak! 10:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Why Dogs Hump.
Dogs, mostly males, hump others dogs or creatures(people) and sometimes inatimate objects. The question is, why? Most people believe it may be for sexual pleasure, that the dog is horny. But the real reason is to show dominance.

Sometimes they are just horny though.........oh well. It may also sometimes be a sign of affection. However ew-ith it may be. Either way, your sure to get some sort of entertainment from the dog humping something. Well i hope you have gotten some entertainment from this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurugurl24 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Isn't this news, or do you NOT have a sense of humor?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/wikipedia_secret_mailing/

or

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/06/wikipedia_and_overstock/

Well? Are you too consertivite to write about yourselves? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.150.69 (talk) 18:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * is there another source for these stories? --Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 23:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * http://scienceroll.com/2007/12/06/wikipedia-scandal-secret-mailing-list/
 * http://mattschwartz.newsvine.com/_news/2007/12/04/1140804-secret-mailing-list-rocks-wikipedia
 * ( Source: The Register ( Yech! )
 * http://sethf.com/infothought/blog/archives/001286.html

"'I don't know how White House reporters stand it. It's got to be extremely corrosive to have a job where people are lying to you and treating you with barely-concealed (sometimes even unconcealed) contempt every single day.'"

It would proabably be better in the Signpost. --86.108.110.119 (talk) 11:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

MainPage-worthy
The gunman story seems quite out of place above the one about Iran's nuclear program and the one about Venezuela's constitutional referendum. Is it really worth putting this story on the main page? --Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 23:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * "Get the widow on the set, bring us dirty laundry." -D Henley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.118.64 (talk) 16:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Ongoing Event: Serbia and Kosovo
The issue of Kosovo's independence from Serbia, which could be declared any time from Monday (regardless of the EU's attempt to suggest Early next year) is a considerable event that involves a wider audience (US and most EU countries support, Serbia and Russia disprove). It would be worthwhile I believe to add this to the Ongoing events. Mikebloke (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

2007 Africa-EU Summit
Isn't the 2007 Africa-EU Summit worth a few words? Rich Farmbrough, 22:31 9 December 2007 (GMT).

Homosexual fruit flies
There is a story out today about fruit fly experiments where scientists have discovered how to turn them homosexual and back to heterosexual within hours. Seems like quite a breakthrough! Can anyone post it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.247.50 (talk) 00:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

That does not sound real, but if you have a link to the site that says it. SG2090 (talk) 00:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You can go to http://news.google.com/news?tab=wn&hl=en&ned=us&q=fruit+flies+homosexual or http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071210094541.htm. It will be printed in the journal of Nature Neuroscience in January so it is surely official science and not something made up.

Led Zeppelin reunion concert
The concert took place last night. Radio, TV and newsmedia are full of the story.  SilkTork  * SilkyTalk 08:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

...
BWAHAHAHHA! I will rule the world! BOW DOWN TO WERTY! —Preceding unsigned comment added by WertyXXX (talk • contribs) 01:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Qatif Rape Case Pardon
A major Saudi newspaper just reported on a royal pardon for the girl in the Qatif Girl Rape Case, but it's still only in Arabic as far as I know. -- Slacker (talk) 04:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Phrasing
I do not feel it is fair to call the protesters in England (in regards to the torch relay) and else where as "anti-China". I am sure most of them don't have anything wrong with the Chinese people (maybe the people in Tibet do, but I don't know that for sure), and it is the ruling party of China that has changed, not the land or ethnicity of the people. It would be more NPOV to state that they were against the policies of the Peoples Republic of China, and not "China" as a whole. Just a thought, because it makes them seem like (to me, and maybe a few more) they hate Chinese people and that is why they are protesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgPyth (talk • contribs) 07:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * So now, China is now split into multiple countries by multiple sovereignties? That's like saying the United States should be split into multiple sovereignties. Or better yet, 50, because after all, China comprises of 56 ethnicities, so China too should be split into 56 states. The PRC is a majority of China. Unless you want it split into 56 parts, that is. I'm sure if someone made fun of, say Californians, or I don't know, people from Massachusetts (lived in both before btw, no offense intended), from another country outside of the US, Americans would see that as making fun of Americans overall. As for policies, in my opinion, from western Media NPR (paraphrased): Tibet is a autonomous region, Tibet is exempt from taxes, 90% of the government's budget is supplied by Chinese. From other western media (quoted from wikipedia page on this): 'Tibetan rioters appeared to be targeting shops and vehicles owned by Han Chinese, the predominant ethnic group in China, and Hui, who are a Muslim minority. According to the BBC and the Wall Street Journal, rioters focused on setting fire to and looting businesses owned by them, before Riot police arrived. From Eastern media (cause that makes SUCH a difference, rolls eyes): rioters injured 623 people including 241 police and armed police and killed 18 others. They also set fire to more than 300 locations, mostly private houses, stores and schools, smashed vehicles and damaged public facilities....I fail to see how that's "repressive" policies (although I acknowledge anything done wrong previously, no country is free from mistakes, see American treatment of Native Americans/republic of Hawaii). If the Tibetans riot (which btw, Pro-tibet people are SUPPORTING them rioting cause your saying that it was wrong to send in riot police), why the heck is sending in riot police wrong? It's the same thing as rabble rousing, overall, the reason there is "pro-tibet" is the same reason there is "anti-china", its because of economic and discriminatory reasons. It'll probably be changed though, because its seen as "not neutral" (and I agree it isn't, but still, pro-tibet is a wide term too, some protesters, I know 100%, do it not because of Tibet, but because they see it as another chance to be anti-china (predominantly those paid by the US government/other groups), so there are people on both sides, perhaps include both "pro-tibet" and "anti-china" would be more accurate.) and there is no proof of my opinion anyway (cause you can't tell what others think) Noian (talk) 17:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Palestinian Genocide
What about the slaughter of Palestinians currently happening? —Preceding unsigned comment added by unknown person


 * If there is something not on the news, add it, with the source. You don't need to ask, all you need is a wikipedia account. (past a few days old) Noian (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Schengen Agreement implemented in 8 EU countries tomorrow
Can someone add it please to the recent events? I think it's important. – Alensha   talk  09:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! – Alensha   talk  20:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Proper dating
What should we do if the local date is different from the UTC date? In specific, I have a tiger attack at Portal:Current_events/2007_December_26, which I put on Wednesday, because the news broken on Wednesday, UTC. But it was 5PM Tuesday PST, where it occurred (San Francisco). The Evil Spartan (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Put it on Tuesday since that was the day on which it happened, even though it was no longer Tuesday UTC.-` gadfium 18:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

NFL results
With respect, the US results of a sport practiced and followed only in the US are not global news... 172.206.105.159 (talk) 21:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. If the Canadian loonie hitting parity with the US dollar does not warrant a "headline", then neither does a streak in the NFL in the anglophone community OpusDiabolus (talk) 05:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The fact of this item still being among the most important news items at this date serves as evidence of systemic bias to readers within the wider anglophone US. Ghostoroy (talk) 08:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. This is news to only people in one country, and even then it's only a proportion of it. --Deadly&forall;ssassin(talk) 10:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Bull, we report on most of the grand slam tennis tournaments as well (for which you could say the same). A week or two ago we reported on the European championship of Handball (or something else vague). This is the most important event in american football (in the only country practicing it seriously), and as such it is on par with a "world tournament", and we always mention world tournaments of the larger sports as well. Don't be "it's an american conspiracy" over nothing. This point comes up every year, and every year the end result is the same. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That may be true, but the handball tournament result was removed too! And actually, by stating the U.S-American tournament is on par with the European or World tournaments, you are saying that the U.S. is as important as the rest of the world together! So I think we have every right to be like "it's an american conspiracy", as it obviously isn't over nothing! --Thrane (talk) 13:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm from europe and I see no problem here. Its one of the biggest live sports events in the world and I believe it has the "highest attendance" record. It is also an important event in one of our key audiences (America, UK, Canada, Australia). And last but not least... This is not the place to discuss it :D Template talk:In the news

--TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ha! I was right a discussion like this will crop up! -- Howard  the   Duck  14:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Issues with Current Events
There are still some issues with the system here. Perhaps it is time that we appointed a "semi-official" editor that takes care of things ? In my experience Portal:Current events is lacking in many of these. I see two ways to deal with it. Does anyone have preferences on either of these, or any other comments ? --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The sidebar is irregularly updated.
 * Improper archiving of months (The sidebar has not been archived since March 2007)
 * Little supervision on archived stories. ideally someone should check the RecentChanges links every week or so.
 * We have "future events" of some importance on "month in year" pages that get removed without the stories being present in archives. Why not check that they are added?
 * bad prose
 * inconsistent reporting on events between 2 or 3 days. Sometimes as an event develops its original story should be revised or more often rewritten.
 * 1) Name a group of editors that take care of this. (revive WikiProject Current events.
 * 2) Name an editor that has seniority and responsibility to look after these issues much as with a newspaper or website.
 * Since part of the portal shows up on the Main Page, I think there is precedent for some ownership here. I think three or four active editors would be easier to find than to revive a WikiProject with all its associations (and uncertainties). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm wrong on that: Template:In the news is transcluded onto this portal as well as the Main Page. And that template requires an admin to update. Still, this portal is just one click away from the Main Page, so it is important. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Repeated vandalism
The headlines has recently vandalised by an unnamed editor at 82.114.160.32. She has repeatedly redirected the external news article links to a page that contains, I'm guessing, some great message. (It's non-Unicode and unreadable by my browser.) Isn't there something that could be done to stop this nonsense? o (talk) 02:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * User:82.114.160.32 has been blocked for 31 hours. If he/she vandalizes again, report it at WP:AIV; the next block will be even longer. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

US presidential caucuses and primaries
Just a note I would like to mention, but I think we should only put the events surrounding the bigger primaries and caucuses such as New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina, California and Michigan and not to mention all such as the Mitt Romney win in Wyoming today or other less significant caucus results in the coming weeks.--JForget  03:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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Suggestion: Add section with regular updates from Wikinews
Suggestion: Add a section with regular updates from Wikinews, using the new bot, User:Wikinews Importer Bot. Check this out Portal:Current events/Wikinews, which updates items from the Current Day of the Main Page of Wikinews, and brings them over to a Wikipedia page. All that would be required would be to have a section like "Today's latest articles from Wikinews", and then just transclude in the section itself. Thoughts? Cirt (talk) 11:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC).
 * ✅, please see Portal:Current events/Headlines, and changes. Cirt (talk) 16:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC).

I think this is a great idea. Wikinews has increasingly taken more focus that originally was on Current events. Giving it more prominence seems only logical. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks for this good positive feedback, this is good to hear.  Also it's great to foster more interconnectedness between the two projects.  Cirt (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC).


 * There have been previous discussions about WikiNews' connection to Wikipedia. Current Events contains significant items referenced from news outlets, resulting in an ongoing log or historical diary about what happened on what day. WikiNews is a news outlet, and therefore is available as a reference. However references to WikiNews from Current Events are rare, since most WN articles do not have such wide broad significance that anyone would think of adding them to Current Events.
 * Please consider the lower-impact change of automatically importing WN items to the main Current Events daily sub-articles so they can be filtered. As it is, WN headlines are being given "higher significance" despite linking to uniformly lower quality and less significant articles than the ones WP volunteers manually bring over and reference from the major networks and papers. This change is unfair to WP users, and I don't see any reason for it besides politically promoting WN. Potatoswatter (talk) 23:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Two other users disagree with you. The Wikinews articles that appear on their Main Page are vetted, perhaps as much or more so than those at the Wikipedia Headlines section.  For the most part, in order for something to appear at Wikinews it must also contain references from news outlets or secondary sources, and thus that is available as a reference as well, on those article pages.  The top articles at Wikinews usually do have broad significance.  As it is, WN headlines are being given "higher significance" despite linking to uniformly lower quality and less significant articles than the ones WP volunteers manually bring over and reference from the major networks and papers. This change is unfair to WP users, and I don't see any reason for it besides politically promoting WN.  -- Who is to say that it is not the other way around, and that the Wikinews articles are better sourced and of a better quality than those at Wikipedia on similar topics?  It's best to present both.  Cirt (talk) 23:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Are you trying to outvote me? Currently the first headline is "KDE 4 desktop environment released." Yes it's referenced, of course. A totally unreferenced article wouldn't exactly be journalism. But it simply echoes a press release of no general interest. The sad thing is that there are totally unreferenced articles on WN. Anyone can write anything and put it on the front page. (Your "vetting" process consists of taking down inappropriate articles.) WN at its best presents local news from around the world. "No treaty withdrawal", says Lakota elder is a really really nice, interesting article with good original reporting. But Current Events has a decidedly international bent and WikiNews is the exact opposite.
 * As for my assertions on quality, WP articles tend to be better because they have been around longer. WP works because experts on a particular topic put the article on their watchlist and maintain it. That's not possible with WN. But we're not arguing over ITN, which references updated articles. This debate is over Current Events, which references major news networks (usually AP members), which is professional reporting, versus WikiNews which is amateur. Potatoswatter (talk) 00:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies, no, I was most certainly not trying to "outvote" you, just making a note that two other editors feel it is appropriate. But I am curious, what do you mean by Please consider the lower-impact change of automatically importing WN items to the main Current Events daily sub-articles so they can be filtered.  -- Which Current Events daily sub-articles do you mean?  Cirt (talk) 00:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC).


 * How about now? I moved it so that it is below all of the Current Events daily sub-articles.  Cirt (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Every day's current events are in a new article, for example Portal:Current events/2008 January 12. If you add WN headlines directly to these pages, no modifications to the master Current Events page are necessary, and the bot is simply an "angel" for WN within the existing framework. Potatoswatter (talk) 04:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that would have to be done manually for every single entry. The current version is updated automatically by a bot, imported with items from Wikinews.  Is it okay now that I moved it to the bottom below all of the Current Events daily sub-articles ?  Cirt (talk) 04:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC).
 * I don't know what my stamp of approval is worth :vP . It's unobtrusive now, but on the other hand people won't notice it. Can the bot be adjusted to add items in Current Events format to the top of the day's events, and not remove anything from the bottom? Given the prominence of the usage, maybe the bot owner wouldn't mind making a few minor changes... Potatoswatter (talk) 12:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, it seems quite difficult to come to an agreement that you appreciate. I moved the location of the display specifically with your words in mind from above, which was to have the Current Events daily sub-articles appear first.  Now, after I have done exactly that, you change your mind and say that "people won't notice it" ?  I'm very confused.  And what do you mean by "Can the bot be adjusted to add items in Current Events format to the top of the day's events, and not remove anything from the bottom?"  The bot grabs the latest items and lists them, so we can them put that list in a table or format wherever we want to.  I think it's fine now the way it is.  All of the "Current Events daily sub-articles" are given prominence over anything from Wikinews, as you wished.   Cirt (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC).
 * I don't object to putting WN on the bottom. I'm just saying if you want to restore more prominence to it, you might try using the bot to contribute as any other user to the main daily lists of current events. Those changes would be: 1. Use Current Events format (* Headline. ([wikinews])), 2. Add to Portal:Current Events/(date), and 3. Don't remove items from the bottom of the list. Anyhow don't get upset, I'm not actually contributing anything anyway besides criticism. It seemed obvious that WN now has second-class status, so I pointed that out and suggested a solution, whether you see it as a problem or not. Potatoswatter (talk) 23:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) This is also something to be careful with of course. There are many editors that are still not happy with the sourcing of WikiNews. It is something that I might support to run a one week test with. See what the reactions of people are, see what problems are encountered. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Any chance the wikinews banner under in the new could be removed? There are three links that all go to wikinews now, which is more than enough. Narayanese (talk) 23:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I removed it, because had similar feelings. I have also been playing a little bit with alternate ideas on the inclusion of the Wikinews headlines. User:TheDJ/Sandbox2 shows several ways in which we could group wikinews and CE items by day, but i'm not really sure I like any of them. I feel it makes the page too messy and I fear people won't be so diligent in keeping CE up to date once this is implemented. The BEST solution in my eyes is something like what Potatoswatter proposed. It would be ideal, if the bot could add the newest items since it last visit, to the top of todays CE subpage. Then users should be free to edit or remove the bot-added headline as they see fit (wikilinking, better or additional sourcing etc, titles that read less like newsheadlines and more like CE newsitems [generally a bit longer]). It has the benefit of fully keeping in line with the idea behind the CE portal (wikilinking to Wikipedia articles that are currently newstopics), while also giving a lot of visibility to Wikinews and as an extra benefit of reminding editors which topics still need to be covered for today. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

proposal for subportals
I think we can conclude that at the moment, especially the regional subportals have sort of failed... They are edited so little that they confuse people more than that they help editors with current events or history track keeping. I'm considering running an MfD for these subportals and then putting them in "cold-storage". Sports (and at times Technology) seems to be properly maintained and so is the Southeast Asia news portal (at least for a while now) and they can happily stay. But most of the other sub portals are simply unusable now and have been for months (most at least since last summer). --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, we could fill these "Current events subportals" in (at least the major topics with active categories at Wikinews) with the automatically updating bot, User:Wikinews Importer Bot. Then, they would all be updated regularly with new stories from Wikinews, assuming the Wikinewsians make sure to plop the articles into the relevant associated categories.  Cirt (talk) 22:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC).


 * A discussing about several of the Current events subportals has been opened at Miscellany for deletion. You are invited to participate in discussing the fate of these subportals --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews Picture of the Year
Hi all,

please consider spreading the word on and voting for:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Picture_of_the_Year

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Day of the Week
I noticed that the way the day of the week on each day's events is displayed has been changed. Since (in my opinion) it looks much worse, I assume it was some sort of vandalism, but I can't figure out how it was changed. Instead of appearing pretty much as January 24, 2008 (Thursday) it is now roughly January 24, 2008 (Thursday) This is an important difference, and if anyone knows how to fix it, or can tell me what happened, I'd be very appreciative. -Platypus Man | Talk 13:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's fixed again, but the weird thing is that I have no idea what was causing it. I looked trough all the templates that this header uses and none of them were changed. Possible remaining causes are a bug in some of the CSS that the tables/divs use, or a bug in a parserfunction. Really weird. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The new mediawiki parser was on for a little while. The page probably got cached on time that was smack in the middle of this switch between old and new parser, which caused a faulty copy to be cached. Purging the page solved the issue. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah Special:ParserDiffTest/Portal:Current_events there we are. A difference between old an new parser behaviour. I'll track this down. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It's in Portal:Current events/DateHeader2 or something it transcludes. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 09:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * There we are: a stray newline in Start date was at fault. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 09:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I had forgotten to crosspost this. I had already figured it ou :( Village_Pump_%28technical%29 I was just waiting on a response by Tim or Brion on wether this was "expected" behaviour or not. Apparently it is expected, so the fix did need to be applied. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Australian News
Out of interest, why is Australia and NZ no where to be found in the Current Events Portal? According to the "Countries and other territories in Southeast Asia" at the bottom of SE Asia page, Australia is not part of it, so what is Australia part of? This being, while Pakistan has its own Sub-Portal with no stories this year... 210.49.30.22 (talk) 11:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Because no one maintains one. See also Miscellany for deletion/Current events subportals. For Aussie news, you might turn to WikiNews or the news section of our Australian portal. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Taiwan-China conflict
Why isnt taiwan-china conflict ever mentioned in the "ongoing events" section?

This conflict has been undergoing for decades now, and tensions has been steadily escalating with now over 1000 missles from china aimed at taiwan, and taiwan's persistance in not yielding to china's and the china-led world's suppression.

The yearly battles of taiwan against china and china-led world to get into UN, WHO and the constant struggle to get recognized and protected by the international world goverments before it gets eleminated by china.

I believe this controversial issue/conflict deserves to get highlighted, and to raise awareness on how this phrase "might is right" proves sadly to be true in this taiwan-china issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.120.96 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that isn't as important as a proper conflict where people get killed, China/Taiwan is more of a territory/border dispute, of which there are hundreds around the world. --Joowwww (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

"17 to 14" is incorrect
It's always displayed as 17–14 in any report by the Associated Press, or any other American News publication. Such as The New York Times,, Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, or any other American publication in existence. Please fix this grammatical error. Thanks in advance. Trevor GH5 (talk) 05:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

"Damages to several undersea cables"
"Damages" is bad English (unless one is talking about monetary damages, which we are not); the headline should be:

Damage to several undersea cables disrupts internet services in parts of Asia and Africa.

Rob Cranfill (talk) 22:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Please use WP:ERRORS for faster responses. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

"STS-122"
You may wish to add the current shuttle mission to the ongoing events section.--logger (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Grammys
Why are the grammys mentioned and no the baftas? --Chickenfeed9 (talk) 12:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:ITN/C then press page up. -- Howard  the   Duck  04:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo
I think we should consider putting the current civil situation in Kosovo in the Ongoing events section, as it is an ongoing event.AgPyth (talk) 05:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * why isn't it allready in In the news section? Nergaal (talk) 03:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * admins are waiting for the exact time they declare independence. for details, see WP:ITN/C. -- Howard  the   Duck  10:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Pakistan
At what point does Pakistan go on the front page, is there any policy on this?  Lampman  Talk to me! , Monday July 29 2024 (UTC)
 * When results are known. As per the banner above, see the discussion at WP:ITN/C. -- Howard  the   Duck  06:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

armenia presidential elections 19/2/2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.139.216.212 (talk) 05:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikileaks
"... making the website unavailable." It isn't unavailable, though--it can still be reached at its IP address, wikileaks.cx, wikileaks.be, and several other addresses.

206.77.151.18 (talk) 17:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Venezuelan passenger jet crash
is anyone going to mention the fact that an ATR-72 crashed in Merida, Venezuela? Duhhitsminerva (talk) 23:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

New York Philharmonic
I hope I'm not the only one to feel that the NYP's concert in North Korea is frontpage worthy. News story link J. Van Meter (talk) 15:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Someone wrote a paragraph about some book and put it on the current events front page. I looked at the history to revert it, but I couldn't see it. If anyone who is more familiar with Wikipedia is reading this, please revert the edit and let me know how it's possible in case it happens again. Thank you, (Einstein00 (talk) 02:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC))

ETA killed a basque politician
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7283488.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bentaguayre (talk • contribs) 14:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Spitzer scandal
Someone wrote, for March 10, 2008: "Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer admits to using the services of an international online prostitution ring." He made no such admission and to state that he did is potentially libelous (libel per se, specifically, or falsely claiming someone has admitted to a crime). If you read Spitzer's very short public statement, there is no admission beyond remarks like, "I have acted in a way that violates my obligations to my family and violates my, or any, sense of right and wrong." This is a far cry from admitting to using a prostitute. While many news sources have revealed Spitzer is the so-called "Client Number Nine," it's a fabrication to leap from that to saying that Spitzer admitted something. Siberian Husky (talk) 15:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * He resigned, so If it is false, and libelious, I dont think he is going to be litiguous on this one.

Exceeds all digital stroage
"The total amount of digital information is estimated at 281 billion gigabytes in 2007, exceeding available data storage for the first time. (Ars Technica), (IDC via EMC)" Hmm.. There is still room on MY HARD DISK. This is just patently obsurd. There is a full pallet of 500GB drives at Costco, unsold. At least 120 of them, so thats about 60 Tera-bytes, or 60,000 bytes. Hmmm seems like someone slipped a prefix or two. ( a 1024 Terabytes is a Petabyte. What is their definition of a billion? Perhaps this should be looked over by a geek. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.157.126 (talk) 09:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought this was a bit ludicrous too, considering that if there's digital information, it has to current be being stored somewhere. Turns out it was a bad summary. --Firien need help? 10:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It got fixed. ExaByte... Hmmm.. Still a fishy story, but AT LEAST ITS ACCURATE. ( Thanks Firien! ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.157.126 (talk) 12:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Auto-date
I've tweaked the portal to auto-update with the day's date. A long time ago this was frowned on because the lack of news for a new date made it look "wrong"; now we seem to be updating the new day manually before there's news anyway. I think it's clearer to have an empty box than not to have a box at all; fixing the template to do it automatically (while still having the individual days be fixed, looks like LDBot has got that one under control though) should make the changelog for the portal a lot clearer. Comments? --Firien need help? 10:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with this, but I note that half the world (and more than half the population) starts the new day before GMT does. If a major event happens in the morning in that half of the world, we should manually update the portal so the news for the day appears even though the GMT date is still the day before.- gadfium 18:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

David Alexander Paterson
David Alexander Paterson (born May 20, 1954) is an American politician and the current Governor of New York. He is the first African American and the first legally blind person to hold this position. I think it should be noted in the Current events that he is legally blind, i think it is much more noteworthy than the fact that he is black... honestly in this day and age only racest people care about the color of one's skin! The fact that he is blind is much more interesting than the fact that he has more melanin in his skin than a select group of other people. John Doe or Jane Doe (talk) 10:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * About the Patterson notice. Why does black link to African American. I know Patterson is an African American, but not all black people are. 81.96.160.6 (talk) 18:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Damn good point! What if you don't live in the US or identify your self differently? John Doe or Jane Doe (talk) 09:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hungarian version
Languages: hungarian hu:Portál:Hírek — [ Unsigned .]
 * Thanks, I'll put that in. --Firien need help? 16:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Country at Swim
I am so very glad that the WHOLE COUNRTY has taken on swimming, but how do they all complate 400 meters? How do you get 16,408,557 people to swim? ( and the link? HA! its no help ). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.157.126 (talk) 11:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) The Netherlands sets a new world record in the 400-metres relay at the European swimming championships in Eindhoven. (Associated Press)

Commentary and Dissent have merged
Oh ho hum, an extrodinary breakthrough in math, notable, dosent make the front page, but the death of a morman *ssf*rt does.

someone PLEASE add...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2lh1_jNDbrmhNoMlwkZTfLeCw8gD8VHBPIO0

"After 38 years, Avraham Trahtman, Israel, solves "Road Coloring Problem." of symbolic dynamics"

Proof at

http://front.math.ucdavis.edu/0709.0099 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.157.126 (talk) 22:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The solving of the Road coloring problem would probably be worthy of putting in the ITN section of the main page, except that it was solved in September 2007, and reported in the media at least as long ago as 8 February, according to that article. I'm going to propose it anyway, at WP:ITN/C, which is the proper place to suggest that items be added to ITN, because I don't think it got widespread media coverage until just recently.- gadfium 01:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Massive ice shelf collapsing off Antarctica
Keep an eye on this one. --Ryan Delaney talk 19:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * My first shot at a current events item, and it got chopped to hell. It deserved it, and I will learn from the process. it is global warming visible from space, but mabye saying that is much too controversial. The two scientists that emailed me said that the ice being exposed is tens of thousands of years old, ( they have an expidtion planned to take some deep core samples that they could not otherwise have obtained ). and is likely to shed more light on the pre-catostrophic event. It will be all fin and dandy if in 20 years, it all freezes back together, but Im betting not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.157.126 (talk) 09:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Would someone please change the ITN abstract to give the SI units first? The Antarctica does not belong to the USA, so can we please have the SI units first: "a 410 km² (160 sq mi) chunk ..."? Thanks, MikeZ (talk) 20:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Docking of the Jules Verne ATV to the ISS
"This docking maneuver was the first time in the world, that a fully automatic spacecraft has docked with a space station, totally under its own control."

Having read this, I think that this it ITN-worthy. The news entry came up yesterday (April 3). MikeZ (talk) 10:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. Jules Verne was in the news from 9 to 11 March at launch. Sorry but I don't think it will be mentioned on the main page twice in a month. You're welcome to add your opinion to the discussion at WP:ITN/C. -Susanlesch (talk) 10:53, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad to see this worked out, thanks to you for following through and to the admin who did the update. -Susanlesch (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Italian elections
The Italian general elections are being held this weekend so shouldn't it be on the upcoming elections by now?--RedMe (talk) 10:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Mayor Anders Lago of Södertälje, Sweden...
Mayor Anders Lago of Södertälje, Sweden, says that his small city of about 80,000 is currently home to nearly 6,000 Iraqis. "More refugees than the United States and Canada together".

This is very interesting, but what's the journalistic relevance of it? Does it correlate with anything in particular?

Thank you in advanced :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.133.93.178 (talk) 22:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

sample model application form
can any body help me with modeling sample application form including rules and regulations. thanksOlowodara (talk) 12:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please use the link at left to upload your samples. Potatoswatter (talk) 18:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Elections
I think that everyone wants to vote, some people don't do it because they don't really care of who is going to be our new president. I personally think that voting is really fun but the waiting lines could be way too long. Some people get ready to vote but they don't really want to wait in the long line to vote. All in all, I think that people should wait in line if they really want to vote, because your vote will decide who our next president/leader will be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccastaneda (talk • contribs) 14:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Possible Apophis Encounter
Naturally, after having read this on the Current Events page, mildly interested in my own well-being, I read the PhysOrg article that was referenced. Then, I searched CNN, ESA, and NASA, none of which made any mention of this within the last few days since this discovery evidently occurred. It just seems to me that something of this magnitude might be mentioned, even in brief passing, by one of these organizations. Until one of these, or another credible source, picks this information up, I don't think it's necessary for the imposing information to be here. 67.37.68.24 (talk) 11:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

he's just a office holder in a religious organisation. the greater irrelevance we dole out to them in these times, the better for all involved. at least that way pope-isms dont have to spark off another Turkey style conflagration---(Dharma 101)

Paraguay
It looks as if the world's longest-ruling party, Paraguay's Partido Colorado, which has governed the country for 62 years, has finally lost power (elections were today) and a leftist will become president. This is probably worth mentioning. --69.248.59.67 (talk) 22:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Paraguay didn't have a single party government!!! It's just that the same party always won the elections... But we were always officially a democracy. --3M (talk) 02:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Uh, are you forgeting the 35-year dictatorship of Alfredo Stroessner? --69.248.59.67 (talk) 07:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't argue when uninformed, we where still officially a democracy, he manipulated the elections every year. True, he supressed other parties, but still, the page made it look as if we were a single party state until this year. Anyways, it was corrected already. --3M (talk) 05:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Recognizing Kosovo
No offense to anyone pro or anti-Kosovo, but I don't think that every time some country recognizes Kosovo, it's so news-worthy that it needs to be on the Current events. I've removed the Marshall Islands' recognition of Kosovo twice now, and would like to get a consensus as to whether my removals are appropriate. Corvus cornix talk  22:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I support you about that one.We dont have to list every country here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChRis (talk • contribs) 08:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've just deleted another one. Corvus cornix talk  22:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Sunfest
I know this may be a mute point, but the Sunfest advertizes for instance, 15 bands for $15.00, yet most of these bands play at the same time, making it fairly impossible to see and hear all of them unless you are a world class runner or have your own helicoptor.Footfixer (talk) 15:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Page protection
So, the current events page is protected, but the individual news pages for each day aren't? Doesn't that still leave huge opportunities for vandalism on a frequently viewed page? Coemgenus 14:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there a better forum to discuss this? The recent vandalism to Portal:Current events/Calendar made the whole page a mess.  Coemgenus 01:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Arby's Buys Wendy's
On Thursday (April 24) Arby's owned announced that it would be buying Wendy's for US$2.34 billion (source) --66.67.187.203 (talk) 19:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Death of Charles Tilly
Can we mention the death of Charles Tilly, one of the most important modern sociologists, political scientists and historians? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 21:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

wwwNorth Korea
I read in the paper their are danders of jand mines in this country, is this correct —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.140.139 (talk) 07:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

ITN reform
The "In The News" section on the main page is broken. Whereas all of the other sections, like Featured Articles, get updated every day, ITN gets two or three new news items a week. The same picture of Fernando Lugo has been on ITN since April 20, almost two weeks. In addition, deaths like Arthur C. Clarke don't make it to the main page, nor items of "local" interest like the London mayoral election. I think we need to make ITN more open and dynamic. If you would like to help, please see In the news 2.0. Thanks. Lovelac 7 00:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have made a proposal there that would tie in Current Events more closely with ITN. This would also involve changing the format somewhat, so that primary articles are bolded on Current Events as they are on ITN.  See Wikipedia talk:In the news 2.0.  Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The trial period is now active. See it at work at In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates.--Pharos (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

The one-week trial for the new ITN candidates' structure will be coming to an end soon. I have started a section to gather opinion from editors who have been interacting with or observing the new system as to if the trial should be extended or ended as originally scheduled here. Thank you, BanyanTree 01:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ongoing event - Unrest in Tibet
Can the link to the Tibetan unrest be removed from ongoing events? It is no longer happening. --Joowwww (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Make things easy to understand and use
people should try to create or work like when the output of their work or job comes that should be more easy to adopt by the people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devendra143 (talk • contribs) 10:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

User Lemmey
This user has removed wikilinks from stories and arguably broken the three-revert rule today. I have warned him on his talk page. We need to keep a close eye on him while he learns the rules. Capitalistroadster (talk) 21:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * A very close eye and why not keep an eye on How the Current events page works as the links to Kentucky, crane, and convenience store are non-contextual to the events meaning they don't really have much to do with anything. It takes two to tango and also to 3RR, but good work getting your buddy to help you. --Lemmey talk 22:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've opened a notice at Administrators' noticeboard for you just in case you needed some extra eyes. --Lemmey talk 22:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Lemmey, the location of the shooting is obviously contextual to the story as is the location of the story. The person who changed it did based on his own assessment of what was appropriate. I have left your edits alone to avoid problems with the 3RR but that doesn't mean others can't based on their own judgement. Capitalistroadster (talk) 23:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Story about a shooting in Hazard County does not need links just because it has a victim from Perry County = Geographical links --Lemmey talk 23:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Sourcing
Let's try to maintain our neutrality by linking to uncontroversial sources. Specifically, Voice of America is seen in many parts of the world as little more than propaganda due to its funding coming directly from the US Government. It's like getting our news from China Central Television. >_< Jibbajabba (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

100m WR
The 100m world record should be listed on the main page as news! Nergaal (talk) 10:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Perry Mason
in what city did Perry Mason work out of? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanneb2000 (talk • contribs) 02:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Why is the NBC reporter death on the mainpage?
Seriously, there must be something more important happening in the world than the death of a person that is probably unknown outside US? Nergaal (talk) 02:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently you weren't reading one of the (many) banners above: "For questions about the "Headlines" section, proceed to Template talk:In the news." -- Howard  the   Duck  14:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC

Ecuador
There is nothing on the resignation of Ecuador's Economy Minister, for being in disagreement with the President's decision to seize 2 TV Channels. see (AFP Google) IBLNews  (spanish speaker, sorry). 200.1.17.105 (talk) 14:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Iran missile test
Would it be okay if someone added "as part of the Great Prophet III test" or similar, to the headline about Iran testing the missile, seeing as that was what it was part of? Deamon138 (talk) 01:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

"Olympic Torch" Headline Incorrect
I'm not quite sure of the formula or standard for this, but the headline, "The Olympic torch is extinguished by officials as police are confronted by protesters during the Olympic torch relay through Paris." is incorrect. It links to an article discussing the protests in London, and no mention of protests in Paris, or the torch's supposed extinguishing are mentioned. -Invoker47, 12:33pm, April 7 2008

More news
Hello everyone. Can somebody please add some news on the web. Some of us have no more acces than to wikipedia and a couple of other more websites. Yes that kind of things happen here were I live and those things can't be fixed that easily. So we rely on wikipedia to get informed. At least a quote is something better than nothing. Thanks in advance.

RNC 2008
Why is there no link on the ongoing events list of the Republican Nationa Convention 2008.

interwiki szl:Bježůnce wydařyńa
Please, add to interwiki Bježůnce wydařyńa ◄Ozi64► (talk) 17:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * szl:Bježůnce wydařyńa isn't a page, nor does the navbar on the left for szl seem to contain a current events page. Leaving this out for now. --Firien need help? 15:14, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Disappearing items
By the time I followed a story link and read the article, then returned to the Current Events portal page, the link to the story had disappeared. The history page does not show the change or how it was accomplished.

Could it be that the link was excised by partisan interests because the article reported Hezbullah getting nerve gas from Korea through Syria?

How can the page be protected from partisan/politically motivated edits?

Makes one wonder the value (or lack thereof) of this wiki page.

Tekwriter (talk) 16:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Is there a ban on "regional" news?
Somebody at User talk:87.198.133.62 has been erasing a story I put up at Portal:Current events/2008 July 18 about a recently released federal report alleged cruel and unusual punishment taking place at the Cook County Jail. The user erased the story saying it was "regional" news and made reference to some rules. I reverted his edit once and left a message telling him not to do it again or else I would consider it vandalism. He erased the story again and I reverted and left a vandalism warning on his talk page. He's since erased the story again and just left a message on my talk page saying I was breaking the rules and not to threaten him. First, I don't think this is regional news. I found the story in the New York Times and I got there from the main page of Google News. The story was right at the top. I suspect this anonymous user of bad faith but I'd like to know, is there a rule against regional news?--Cdogsimmons (talk) 14:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * there are rules. why don't you go read them first? How it's not a regional news? You have your badly customised, 'cause I didn't this news at the top, bottom or nowhere near google news. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 14:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * as for a bad faith, I sincerely don't see how it's possible not to see those rules. so whos bad faith is it? --87.198.133.62 (talk) 14:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you are a troll. Please stop reverting now. Thank you.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 15:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you are a troll. Please stop reverting now. Thank you. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Now, you're just being childish. You are threatening me with test warnings, and not trying to solve the problem. Problem being the fact that you don't know the rules. You're resorting to reverts instead of commenting here. gosh, what a ... --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking at the about page for the portal, I don't see anything banning "regional" news from the main portal page. There are sub-pages for news by region, but it seems that it's more the level of interest, rather than where the event happened, that's important. —C.Fred (talk) 15:39, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm actually surprised what kind of level of knowledge an administrator could show. Portal:Current events/Edit instructions. One sees them everytime, everytime one click edit link in a header of a daily template. Seriously guys. Even without them, it's a page for events of international importance, rest belong to regional sub-pages. And level of interest of entry in question does not exceed boundaries of US of A. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:43, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That needs fixed, then. There's no link to that set of instructions on the portal or portal talk page that's obvious. What is obvious is How the Current events page works. —C.Fred (talk) 15:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * do you see an edit link in a header of a daily template? how more obvious could it be? that's how most of news are added. do you think that contributors read how the current events page works or they read edit instructions? --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Further, it's arguable that two other events on the page (parliamentary squabble and a business making job cuts) are also not of international importance—or, at least, there's a fair bit of judgment that goes into "international importance", and it's not cut and dried. —C.Fred (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So, remove them! I wholeheartedly agree. I already have two faulty warning messages on my talk page. Which no one seems to have guts to remove. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, now that we've cleared that up. I will say that this Cook County Jail story is of international interest. "Injustice Anywhere . . . . . . is a threat to justice everywhere." Thank you. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 15:51, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You've cleared that up? No it's not of international interest. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're wrong.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 15:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Is that so? --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's my opinion. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 15:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a mistake. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's your opinion. But you don't make any arguments. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 16:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made plenty of them. It's not an international news, face it you've managed TWO sentences on jail's article about the whole event (with all your numerous edits). What arguments do I need else? there is a US sub-page. put it there. On opposite, you don't provide any arguments for inclusion of this entry. Sorry, but injustice quote is just polemic bs. --87.198.133.62 (talk) 16:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, since you've decided to revert continuously I personally will not put the story back up for now. Since you think that the violation of human rights is purely a domestic issue (which is an absolutely detestable position in my opinion) consider this: of those 9,800 men and women in Cook County Jail I am willing to bet that there are at least a few non-American citizens making this a clear international issue. Also, the report detailing the abuses was FEDERAL meaning the United States government is in conflict with an agent of the government of the State of Illinois. I invite you to revert your own recent edit. Otherwise perhaps you should go back in the history of this page and remove all reference to the killings by the Janjaweed in Sudan and the recent election of Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 16:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Geez, even here they prohibit American news. I thought it only happened there... -- Howard  the   Duck  17:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The rule says: "Stories added to the main portal page should be of international interest. Stories of only regional or topical interest belong in their appropriate sub-pages." Is there a established definition of "international interest"?--Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * On ITN of course the "international interest" criterion is much more stringent but on the Current events portal must have more leeway than this. As long as it's reported elsewhere than the home country of the event it can be said to be of "international interest." -- Howard  the   Duck  08:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Tour De France 2008
Surely the TdF 2008 should make the current events and main page news. Its a huge event and far more interesting than any of the usual news.

86.146.224.102 (talk) 20:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)Sam

indian future
are you agree that 123 agreement shuld be signed by india or not —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.197.200.20 (talk) 09:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Boxing Champion
Mate Parlov, Olympic and Pro-Boxing champion died yesterday. He was considered as the best Croatian and former Yugoslav boxer ever. Kubura (talk) 09:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Chinese Internet Restrictions on Foreign Reporters Still In Effect
The headline "The International Olympic Committee and Chinese organizers announce that Internet restrictions have been lifted for media covering the Beijing Games" is incorrect. Internet restrictions have only PARTIALLY been lifted. Sites on Falun Gong and Tibet (among others) still remain blocked to reporters.

See:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7696295

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7538434.stm

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/sports/olympics/02censor.html?_r=1&ref=olympics&oref=slogin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.246.206 (talk) 05:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Check out the banner with the blue arrow: "For questions about the "Headlines" section, proceed to Template talk:In the news. To suggest new items, proceed to Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates." -- Howard  the   Duck  18:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

vida formoso
I nedd time I portugues I dont speak ingles bat I very good player.. I nedd one oportunity please contact me 00447790808298.. please I need one chance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.225.145 (talk) 23:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Studenka disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studenka_Train_Disaster please add to the current events —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.71.211.66 (talk) 12:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Quick!!! A war started
The 2008 South Ossetian Conflict. Started only few hours ago. It's a war. Russian, Ossetian and Georgian sites intensivly cover it and that brings a confusion what sources to take. The English sources asleep. That must be entert on the front page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrystal Blue Moon (talk • contribs) 22:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What a dumb place. There's already an article on it, it's a war, and Wikipedia have nothing on it. It should be on the front page!!! Chrystal Blue Moon (talk) 10:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * War in South Ossetia (2008)... put it on the front page. Esn (talk) 13:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Posted. Seems that you can'T trust admins most of the time when you really need them to add things onto ITN. -- Howard  the   Duck  17:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And its over as fast as it began. Medvedev has ordered Russian troops to stop according to the Associated Press and statements on Russian national television. Maybe the title should be fixed??? Sounds a bit biased given that its claim is that the Russian's are expanding operations when in fact they've just announced the opposite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.140.247 (talk) 11:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

This is not 'Russian offencive' that ended. Russia does not view it as an 'Offencive', thus it may not end any 'Offensive'. The fighting in South Ossetia was started by Georgians. (Reuters via Alertnet) (Washington Post) The aim of the Russian army was to protect, not to attack. Otherwise, the operation would not be ended as soon as Georgian army left South Ossetia. Please consider changing the wording, as it is misleading: someone may think that the war was started by Russia. I propose 'completion of Russian army operation in South Ossetia' as it is the literate translation of what Russian President really said. (BBC) FeelSunny (talk) 09:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)FeelSunny

why no Kashmir strike coverage?
20+ people have died in police fire and is not being reported properly in wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarnath_land_transfer_imbroglio this should be in the main news even human rights watch has commented.I think it should be shown in the front page.
 * Apparently you haven't read one of the many banners above: "To suggest new items, proceed to In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates." – Howard  the   Duck  11:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Zenit won the 2008 UEFA Super Cup
Shurely that should be on front page.

puppy is nice —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rshaid (talk • contribs) 18:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed change
Please see new idea/proposal at Template_talk:In_the_news. Cirt (talk) 10:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Barack Obama in Chicago, Photos by
65 years ago (75 now) I decided that the Art's, would be the essence of my life and livelihood then (1965) I took a 3 week vacation to Africa, that lasted 11 years... WHICH WAS LIKE BEING BORN AGAIN. The rest is history. There I was taught the traditional African art of cow horn and ivory carving, a skill which enable me to be self-employed and employer. Since retiring, I am devoting the remaining days of my life to travel and photography. revisiting some of the beautiful places I’’ve been blessed to visit during my youth.

My Online Photo Gallery: http://mysankofa.shutterbugstorefront.com/g/kojoman68

Would love to get feedbacks.

PS: This article is to encourage others to travel beyond their borders. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obibini (talk • contribs) 16:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Setup archival
- I have setup archival for this page. Discussion threads with zero new posts or activity for over 2 months will be archived - however 5 threads will always be left on the page minimum. Cirt (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Large Hadron Collider
The LHC just went online, probably merits a frontpage mention. Even google has changed their logo to reflect it. Yay! --Alecmconroy (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Resolved, it's been added. --Alecmconroy (talk) 10:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism by 86.133.229.153
Somebody at 86.133.229.153 keeps quietly deleting a mention of an international poll done by a University of Maryland group called WorldPublicOpinion.org about worldwide belief in who was responsible for 9/11. It's been covered by several news organizations, and it's recent, since the results were just released. SkyDot (talk) 05:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Placed a note about it at User talk:86.133.229.153. Cirt (talk) 05:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. You allow for the possibility it was a mistake on that person's part, but the same act (deleting without comment) was done three times. SkyDot (talk) 06:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

The same vandalism was repeated a fourth time. What is an appropriate next step? I'm more than curious why someone is so intent on quietly deleting this one current event time. SkyDot (talk) 04:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:WARN for relevant warning templates, in this case Page blanking, removal of content. Cirt added subst:uw-delete1, and I've added subst:uw-delete2. After blatant vandalism (the person is clearly violating policy and not discussing it) after a level 4 warning, you can report it to WP:AIV, or to WP:ANI if it's not an emergency.
 * I've looked over the news item and reverted, with a few minor wording changes. As mentioned in my edit summary, it's of definitely international interest, reported in mainstream news sources, and worded in an NPOV way that reflects the main thrust of what the sources say. Gotyear (talk) 15:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

اين يوجد البترول في السودان —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.209.76.47 (talk) 14:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Google language tools translates this to "Yen no oil in Sudan." SkyDot (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Unlinked stories
Can anyone add to the discussion I've started at Wikipedia_talk:How_the_Current_events_page_works? I'd like to start deleting unlinked stories if that's ok with people. AndrewRT(Talk) 22:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

gujarat
people shold appriciate the sucess of gujarat in cracking the terrorist attack case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.18.131.14 (talk) 08:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I for one am happy that he did so. It saved many of lives. Allen Kinser (talk) 1:03, 13 September 2008+

yea they should

Hell yea they should. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.96.123 (talk) 19:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Good for the Gujarat Government. They need more like this to make people forget the alleged human rights violations. Josephamathew (talk) 06:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC) josephamathew, 23 September,2008

"brings down the government" of Ukraine?
The wording seems misleadingly strong, esp. for those who are not used to using "government" in that sense. How about "governing coalition"? Homunq (talk) 18:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Pacific / Oceania
Being in New Zealand, I note that we in Australia, New Zealand, Oceania or the Pacific don't even rate a mention in Current Events (as we aren't actually in Asia) Hugo999 (talk) 07:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There used to be a "Current events in Oceania" subpage of current events (and before May 2006 a "Current events in Australia and New Zealand"), but no one but me was maintaining it regularly and I gave up in January 2007.- gadfium 09:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

School shooting in finland
Is it 10 or 11 dead after the shooting? There are two different counts in here and the main article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.241.21 (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

"Eleven students die..."
Wrong, it's ten students (incl. the shooter) and one teacher. Can you fix this? ---Majestic- (talk) 16:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Error on Main Page News Section
There's a grammatical error in the top headline: "CNSA Astronaut Zhai Zhigang successfully perform a spacewalk during the Chinese space mission Shenzhou 7"; "perform" should be "performs." --Anthony5429 (talk) 21:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Austrian election
The Austrian legislative election, 2008, following 18 months of political deadlock after a "grand coalition" failed, has concluded with the major parties both losing votes and seats to the two far right parties, which have won a combined total of about 29% of the vote. Probably should rate a mention as this may well result in a reimposition of sanctions against the country by the EU. Orderinchaos 03:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC) They all jump and talk all the same time! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameson812 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Why is Current_Events different from Current_events
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_Events seems to stop at Oct 1st and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events works correctly 99.245.51.155 (talk) 02:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Help!!!
Am trying to delete vandalism about Tose Proeski!!!!!!74.131.105.46 (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Connecticut legalizes same-sex marriages
Shouldn't this be on the front page? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrrandom (talk • contribs) 12:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Monorierdő train collision
Train accident leads to resignation of traffic minister in Hungary; perhaps worth a mention among current events. 2008 Monorierdő train collision – Alensha   talk  22:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Inactive Regional News section
Many of the Regional news page are inactive and haven't had any news for the past year, except for links to Wikinews (Africa, China, Europe, Israel, Latin America, Middle East, Poland, Asia, United Kingdom and United States). Since Wikipedia is not Wikinews, shouldn't they be deleted? Eklipse (talk) 09:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Bad wording
"The United States Environmental Protection Agency sets a new standard cutting the amount of lead in the atmosphere by 90 percent."

That implies that merely by setting a standard, they've magically cut the amount of lead in the atmosphere. Somehow, I doubt it. --202.6.116.165 (talk) 21:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Current events: Regional pages
Current events: Regional pages, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Current events: Regional pages and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of those pages list at Current events: Regional pages MfD during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- Suntag  ☼  08:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Argentine Gov't Seizure of Private Assets
Argentina's President has announced her intention to nationalize all private pensions in the country. If passed by the Congress, which it likely will be, over $30 Billion in private retirement accounts, 401(K)s, etc, will become government property. They are doing this because the Argentine gov't is broke, but rather than cut spending they are seizing private accounts to cover their debts. Does anyone else find this newsworthy??? SpudHawg948 (talk) 22:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)/ Yes, this looks like a newsworthy to meFeelSunny (talk) 20:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Barack Obama Political Party
False information in here. Barack Obama is a Democrat, not a Socialist. 69.231.171.38 (talk) 05:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

US Election
Should it really be on the front page NOW, since it's not even the fourth in the USA? 99.167.101.45 (talk) 03:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

2008 Russian submarine accident
hot off newpages--Ipatrol (talk) 06:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes to format of current events page (Wikinews)
I see that we now get the Wikinews page for each day in addition to the current events. I have to say I'm not crazy about that. What passes for news there doesn't seem to be up to the same standard as the current events page itself. Also, it looks like updates to the current events page take several minutes to show up. Is this a change in cache update policy, moderation, or perhaps a magic change in my own browser? SkyDot (talk) 18:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I vote take wikinews feed off. MPS (talk) 14:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally, I agree with both the above. Those sections take up a lot of room, and a fair number of the articles are questionable for inclusion here. But Wikinews is a sister project, and it does some very good articles; perhaps they deserve a wide audience. Maybe a tighter selection: two or three a day? Or a smaller font? Or ticker-tape marquis rolling like on the bottom of CNN? Or, in one way or another, enable us to edit the headlines from here for relevance/inclusion (micronation news on WP:CE? seems inappropriate to me), geographical neutrality ("Fear and loathing on the campaign trail, September 2008" -- it'd be kind of nice to know exactly which country's campaign we're talking about), style/grammar ("Medical helicopter crashes near Chicago, Illinois killing four" -- sofixit and all that, but in this case, I don't know how), etc. Aille (talk) 21:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would be more careful about taking WN off. If we take it off, we should always give reference to a corresponding article in a CE messages. Just to make sure any user can see a bigger picture than one or two sentences in CE. Maybe we should change the CE rules than, adding #7, 'if possible, give a link to an article about the event'. FeelSunny (talk) 20:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I, for one, love the format the way it is. Wikinews articles seem to complement the Portal:Current Events blurbs quite nicely, and I don't think they take up too much room at all.  The "Fear and Loathing" article title you are referring to references Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, so that's why it isn't geographically neutral.  The grammar on the article blurbs is often worse than what you find on Wikinews, from my experience.  I would never see the Wikinews articles if they weren't listed here, so again, I find them to be very useful.  And no, I don't edit Wikinews at all.  :)  &mdash; Pie4all88  T  C 08:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How about going back to the old format of having Wikinews articles at the bottom. I suppose that Wikinews does have a different scope to the current events portal, so all these links don't seem appropriate below the date page. However, the old format seems to keep a reasonable balance between not radically changing the scope of this portal to news site, while still giving Wikinews some prominence. (and I say this as a person who has written hundreds of articles on Wikinews) Anonymous101 (talk) 19:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree.


 * Actually, I hadn't realized the Wikinews stories didn't get transferred to the 'permanent' pages (e.g., November 2008). Seeing as how they're only a temporary thing, up there for a week while they're hot, I'd like to temper my criticisms above. I'm not even going to repeat my petty suggestion that a smaller font be used for the Wikinews stories: with the length of the sidebar, the portal needs every column inch it can get. And, although the wording of one of the links ("Gay marriage banned in three states") still jars with our aspirations to a geographic neutral POV, and I'm not sure about the I-Phone story (even after reading it), those are the only quibbles I can see with the current selection. Hardly worth worrying about... Aille (talk) 19:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

2008 Congo cholera outbreak
Very sparse, but in the news. Remember (talk) 18:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

grammar
"Three planets orbiting star HR 8799 and one planet orbiting star Fomalhaut are visually verified by telescopes, the first extrasolar planets whose existence have been confirmed via direct imaging."

First, it has to be "whose existence has been confirmed" or "whose existences have been confirmed".

Second, it's bad enough to see journalese phrases such as "French opera singer Gustave Huberdeau" (currently on DYK, which also has a correct form: "the entomologist Robert Perkins"). But we absolutely need a "the" in "the star Fomalhaut". &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 22:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I've copy & pasted it to WP:ERRORS. You can report future errors in the headlines at the top of Current events (and anything shown on the main page) there. Gotyear (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I didn't know about that. &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 06:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Some one decided to post thier view on gay marriage.Take it off
 * I'm trying to find it. It seems to be buried in a template somewhere.--Danaman5 (talk) 19:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism Outside the Editable areas?
How are we suppose to remove any Vandalism that someone places outside the standard "day" areas that can be edited? Currently there is some right above the latest day and I don't know how to remove it as the page is semi-protected. Here is a screen shot of what I am talking about, http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2081/vandalismdw6.png.

Thanks, Shelnutt2 (talk) 19:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been trying to find this vandalism for the last ten minutes. It must be on a transcluded template, but I've checked them all!--Danaman5 (talk) 19:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting enough though, when viewing the permanent link, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events&oldid=251769174 the vandalism is gone, so it's not just someone edited into the revision. --Shelnutt2 (talk) 19:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Basically what the people did was they typed in the text where the date header was, basically replaced the DateHeader for whatever they typed, so it seems like there is no date, but its in the template page for that day. just undo it and its all good :)Silent Assassin (talk) 11:26, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism again which I can't remove
Someone remove - "Cheryl Cole had sex with James Williams she liked it but ashley cole doesnt know. She paid me lots of money not to tell but i was scared and so i told you." I can't edit it from the page. Gazab1 (talk) 11:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Its been removed, may take a minute or two to sync with portal page.Silent Assassin (talk) 11:15, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Protection of other portal pages linked with Current Events.
The portal pages linked with Current Events,eg 2008 November 18/19/20/21 etc. should also be semi-protected just like the current events portal as they are prone to vandalism.Silent Assassin (talk) 11:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews headlines
Where are the Wikinews headlines transcluded from? I can't find how to edit it to remove the hoax article about "interviewing a duchy" which is listed for deletion on Wikipedia, besides which it's interviewing a Duke, not a Duchy. Little Red Riding Hood  talk  02:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

headlines from Friday
"Burmese comedian Zarganar is sentenced to 45 years in prison for organising relief for victims of Cyclone Nargis. (AFP via Google News)"

This statement has been tarnished by someone's POV on the issue. He wasn't sentenced to prison for organising relief, he was sentenced to prison for speaking to foreign media. --116.90.132.193 (talk) 19:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

"Ibrahim Nasir, the first President of the Second Republic of the Maldives, dies of an unknown cause in Singapore."
 * How about "Former"? a and the news story said unknown causes...Its just unknown if his liver problem killed him? Just PLEASE add a little clarity.

Ganguly
Nothing about Saurav Gangulys retirement?--Abhishek Jacob (talk) 16:00, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Who cares about a cricket player. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.67.58 (talk) 06:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

vandalism
consisting of "dick fuck ass lick jizz" in the page. New Babylon 2 (talk) 19:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I thoguth that was news.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.157.126 (talk) 18:51, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Mumbai attacks
On the WP main page, the headline on Mumbai reads that 900 have been injured. This is obviously far too high and appears nowhere in the linked articles. A figure of 341 injured has been quoted by the media. Perhaps it would be safer to say over 300 have been injured.-Ipigott (talk) 10:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Reverted vandalism.
Just removed a bit of vandalism. How often does that happen on this page? From 203.144.7.87 = [ byroncps.dsl.onthenet.net ] An Austrailian ISP.

can you create your own articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaTyyYkAt088 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Bernard L. Madoff ITN
Thanks for linking up to this article on ITN on the main page. There is a bit of a problem with some editors making Madoff's ethnicity a focus of the article. I'm trying to keep this down to an acceptable level, but could others help out on this? There is some judgement involved. If it gets out of hand, may I ask that you pull it off of ITN? Hope it doesn't come to that though. Smallbones (talk) 23:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Presidential Transition of Barack Obama
I would like to propose adding Presidential transition of Barack Obama to the "Ongoing Events" Section of this page since that is an ongoing event, which has resulted in related events (i.e. Cabinet nominations) being listed on this page. --TommyBoy (talk) 04:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. I have a feeling others might call US bias/not international importance, though it's a great, comprehensive article that has been mentioned as a possible article for ITN inclusion upon Obama's inauguration.
 * You can add things like it yourself to the sidebar in the future btw. I moved the "edit sidebar" up to that section; those links now bookend the top and bottom of the sidebar. If you meant to initiate discussion before a potentially controversial addition, I second it and have added it. Hopefully if someone objects, they discuss it here as here's linked. MeekSaffron (talk) 07:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

What happened.
Why does it look so ugly right now. Dunno how to fix =/ Dengero (talk)
 * nvm, fixed. Dengero (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Guideline draft
Our rules for inclusion for on recent year pages (e.g. 2009) are almost impossible to know unless you already know them. For that reason, I have begun a draft for a guideline on recent year pages. WikiProject Years/Recent Year guidlines draft. Let's get this hammered out and posted. Wrad (talk) 20:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

White space
Why is there a big white space under the January 5 header? At least, I'm seeing it with Firefox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.93.215.181 (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone accidentally deleted the end of the individual newsday template, specifically |} . I put it back.

Current Events/Sports: Splitting It In Half
I would like to suggest dividing the Current Events/Sports portal into two seperate yet distinctive sections. The current portal would be renamed "Portal:Current events/International Sport" and a second portal be started called "Portal:Current Events/North American Sports" While the current portal would be limited to Football (soccer), Athletics (Track and Field) in places outside North America, the North American sports portal would contain sports and leagues that are more relevant to fans in the USA, Canada and Mexico, the three major countries, such as Major League Baseball, NASCAR, the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, NASCAR, MLS/CONFACAC/FMF among others. We won't try to be a daily newspaper, but rather a resource to place information on sports relevant to that region, with an occasional international event of a sport that North America plays from time to time in the International section (such as Super Bowls and the forthcoming World Baseball Classic.) The only international stories that would be crossed over into the North American pages would be tennis and golf grand slam events, the Olympics and World Cup Soccer for example, as they have implications for countries involved. Please take this under advisement, and thanks. NoseNuggets (talk) 2:15 AM US EST Dec 12 2008
 * I oppose this idea. There are millions of people living in USA, Canada and Mexico who are interested in sports outside of the traditional US sports and vice versa for people living everywhere else in the world. --Dweller (talk) 12:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You didn't read through that thoroughly. I said that several events (Tennis and Golf Grand Slams, World Baseball Classic, Super Bowls, World Cup Soccer, Olympics for example) would be crossed over between the two. Not entire seasons (except for noatble items such as coaching and managerial dismissals, opening games in MLB, NHL, NBA, weekly Top 25 American college football and NFL seasons,) in other words much of the stuff usually covered within the current portal but just limited to North American Sports. NoseNuggets (talk) 6:21 US EST Dec 14 2008.
 * How would you objectively decide which sports and events would and would not cross-over? What problem is this a solution to? --Dweller (talk) 11:57, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to be objective, each month there's over 100 KB used on a monthly basis within the portal in question. By splitting it in two (North American and World) and crossing over into with Super Bowl, World Cup, Olympics the tennis and golf "Grand Slam" events as well as the forthcoming World Baseball Classic with both portals in question, we would still cover recaps.  As for the other stuff, MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS/CONCACAF/FMF, CFL, NCAA would get a seperate page based as "Portal:Current events/Sports/North America", and there would be a redirect on the World page reading "For North American sports, see 'Portal:Current Events/Sports/North America'" with a link therein. NoseNuggets (talk) 9:00 AM US EST Dec 18 2008.
 * Note: There's also talk of limiting what appears on Portal:Current events/Sports, such as the reducing the number of Detroit Lions blurbs by about 94%. – Howard  the   Duck  04:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Was the Lions comment sarcastic toward the Lions as they were abysmal this year? NoseNuggets (talk) 8:25 AM US EST Dec 30 2008
 * They were at the "right place at the right time". I could've used another really bad NFL team to illustrate the folly that all regular season NFL games got in P:CE/S while only 8 of the possible 56 NBA Playoffs first round games did. – Howard  the   Duck  16:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, this is not a discussion about quality over quanity, as stated in the P:CE/S discussion pages. It's how the seasons are set up.  NFL games are weekly, while the NBA and the NHL plays two, maybe three games per week and their regular season (and the first two rounds of the playoffs) take forever, hence for the first two rounds, only elimination games are noted. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:21 AM US EST Jan 11 2009.
 * Then let's make it a discussion about quality over quantity. How come 16 regular season games of the Lions games got in, while 6 of the 7 Hawks playoff games won't?
 * This is akin to posting championship games on ITN or even here at P:CE -- we don't post regular season/group stage, or even playoffs/knockout stage games, but only the final/championship game (quality over quantity, or importance). Ergo, playoff games should go in, while most of the regular season/group stage games won't. it's like the Christmas Day games were more important than the playoff games in the NBA when it is essentially the reverse. – Howard  the   Duck  07:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

THE COLOR INDIGO
does it exist? i was reading this book called"indigo" and it states that according to science there are 6 colors in the rainbow and it states that the color indigo is invisible. I always wondered how the rainbow came to happen and since I was a kid I learned that Indigo was one of the colors in the rainbow —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinsae-z (talk • contribs) 08:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If indigo doesn't answer your question, please ask at WP:REFDESK. MeekSaffron (talk) 08:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Richard John Neuhaus
I was going to add the name of Fr. Richard John Neuhaus on the list of January's notable deaths box on the side of the current events page, but I found that I could not find a link to edit it. How do you edit this box? Can somebody please add the name of Fr. Neuhaus in this box?The alpaca herder (talk) 22:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've added him to Recent deaths. I've also added "Edit sidebar" links to every section of the sidebar, though you have to scroll to the section you want to edit.
 * If you go to "My preferences", the Editing tab, then make sure "Enable section editing via [edit] links" box is checked (and click Save), you should have normal edit links as well in Recent deaths. But I created a new test account, and while that box is checked by default, the other links don't appear. The sidebar is editable though, not semi-protected, so I can't explain why you (or my new test account) couldn't see the other edit links. MeekSaffron (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Russia–Ukraine gas disputes
I propose changing the name in the "in the news' section from "Russian state-controlled supplier Gazprom cuts off gas deliveries to Ukraine, with several European countries reporting a fall in supplies." to "Russia–Ukraine gas dispute leads to fall in supplies to several European countries". The current wording does not describes all aspects of the situation, or describes the main of them adequately.


 * 1) "State controlled" is not a universally supported claim, as the Gazprom company has multiple owners, incl. private shareholders, which quite obviously "control" it in some form, and
 * 2) Why do we make a sentence where Gazprom has an active role and Ukraine is presented as a passive object of an action???

I.e. why not, for example, a pro-Gazprom GProm is made ... to cut off gas by Ukrainian actions, and not pro-Gazprom Ukraine ... stops transporting GP gas to EU, not even a neutral Russia–Ukraine gas dispute leads to stop of gas deliveries to Europe. Why do we choose an anti-Gazprom option? Because they are bad?

By making Gasprom an actor in this sentence and Ukraine a recipient of an action we clearly admit we hold Gazprom responsible for the mess, which is a clear POV and must be corrected. FeelSunny (talk) 13:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Wrong day of week?!
As of 2009-01-21 01:21 UTC, I see the following block headers when I view this page:

January 21, 2009 (2009-January-21) (Thursday) 	edit 	history 	watch January 21, 2009 Wikinews articles Current events of January 20, 2009 (2009-01-20) (Tuesday) 	edit 	history 	watch ...

Can anyone figure out why the page incorrectly thinks that January 21 is a Thursday?! (It gets the rest of the days correct...) John Darrow (talk) 01:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Recognition of Kosovo
Is it considered news-worthy to report every time a country recognizes Kosovo? See Portal:Current events/2009 January 16, which I have been reverted on with an inappropriate "undo". AnyPerson (talk) 01:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Usage
Where are the pages that tell me how to USE this news feed? For instance, I want to include "Tennis current events" into the Tennis Portal -- Mjquin_id (talk) 20:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Why are my edits still invisible?
Frequently I find that my edits are not visible.

Yes, I know that sometimes they get deleted as soon as I put them on.

And sometimes I forget to 'refresh' (F5).

But more often, the edits are still there (if I try to re-edit, or look under 'History' and 'Compare'), but are not visible

What can the explanation be?
 * Johnbibby (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * See . There's a link to purge below the calendar now. Hope that helps. Revelian (talk) 05:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

First openly gay head of government in modern times?
Who was there before modern times? Is there any example of openly gay leaders in history?

It is only the front page news statement that adds the "in modern times", neither the article about Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir or the wikinews http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/New_Icelandic_government_to_take_office_today does.demo (talk) 12:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:ITN.- gadfium 18:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, for example the Roman emperor Hadrian (who deified his boyfriend after his death), James I of England, William III of England... a very long list. They were still expected to marry and sire heirs, but their leisure time was their own. 137.43.55.15 (talk) 14:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

February 2009 United Kingdom snowstorm
Hi everyone, I was wondering if I could get some help with the February 2009 United Kingdom snowstorm article, a current event in the United Kingdom.I have put it as high performance on one of the wikiprojects. Because of the rapid developments it needs to be kept up to date. Cheers. 03md (talk) 22:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

UN retraction?
I just saw the statements that the UN had withdrew claims that Israel bombed a UN facility during the Gaza Conflict, as reported by the Israeli media. I just checked the UN official website (un.org) and the American State Department (state.gov), and neither seem to confirm this report. I suggest this be removed, as there are no third-party references to this controversial (and, effectively, false) statement. Please visit the UN website, as the retraction does not appear to have been made.--Gaijin Ninja (talk) 02:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Malagasy protests
Please update the Malagasy protests. It's a current event and changes dramatically. There are dozens of people killed during today's riots. --82.34.206.78 (talk) 02:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Understatement?
Are we going for a deliberate understatement with "In Victoria, Australia, bushfires (satellite image pictured) cause major property damage and kill at least 108 people."? How about "Australia's worst ever bushfires obliterate two towns and leave over a hundred dead."? "Major property damage" is what we get most summers. This is far beyond that. Stevage 02:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Hampshire College becomes first in U.S. to divest from Israeli Occupation
Read more here, or just google the info. Significant. Already endorsed by the likes of Chomsky & Zinn, Cynthia McKinney, etc. I put the information on HC's article.

This is newsworthy. Wikipedia should highlight this in the boldest text it can. Is this the right place to go to to make such a proposal? 64.254.165.243 (talk) 19:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

2¢
I enjoy reading the wikipedia main page, but I get tired of seeing the same picture under the current events section for 2-3 days in a row. Is there a way a new photo can be posted each day? kilbad (talk) 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Am I the right weight?
Yes, Im only 12, but I've been very concerned about my weight lately. my friends all tell me that im sooo crazy for calling myself fat, and my parents think that im too skinny. i was overweight for years with baby fat, but now ive stretched and ive been the same weight since about 4th grade.

im 12 years old, exactly 5'0, and i have a very solid built. (not petite at all) im about 94 pounds. it varies within morning and night... little less, little more than that.

i would like your opinions! ive been trying for a good website, but those answers are all different.

tell me if im crazy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hazelrockz101 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Your weight is a little low for your height. It's almost certain that you are not fat. We can't give you medical advice here, except to suggest that you should discuss this with your doctor, or school nurse.- gadfium 22:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

This is not a forum for random topics unrelated to Wikipedia, no page on Wikipedia is.--Ipatrol (talk) 02:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Scientific news from Croatia!
22 February 2009 (UTC)

Please read the news from Croatia with the Google search engine using the provided links:

1. http://webograd.tportal.hr/bspadina/pocetnastranica

2. http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razgovor_sa_suradnikom:Boris_%C5%A0padina

3. http://knjiznica.irb.hr/blog/2008/10/09/dodijeljena-nobelova-nagrada-za-fiziku/

Sicronet (talk) 14:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

In The News section starts to look like an obituary
What is the threshold after which we publish the news about some deadly event in this section? Is it related to the number of casualties, the oddness of event/accident, or something else? It starts to look like an obituary today. Why do we publish "Bus with 11 ski-tourists in Slovakia", and we neglect these: Every three seconds, one child dies in India: UNICEF, A child dies of malaria every 30 seconds ? Crnorizec (talk) 22:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Outside the U.S.: mininum of 1 death, inside the U.S.: min. of 10 deaths. Exceptions: Airplanes landing on the Hudson River.
 * For discussion of In the news, see WT:ITN. For suggestions, see WP:ITN/C. ITN/C does really need more input from more eyes. – Howard  the   Duck  04:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

What about the U.S. Stock Market?
Will someone write about the Stock Market revolt? It seems since the new administration has taken office the stock market plunge is on a serious downward spiral. Sure it was going down before, but the market has seriously lost in the last few weeks. 68.177.12.38 (talk) 21:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Assuming you have a reliable source, why not be bold and add it yourself? Tomdobb (talk) 19:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

"Claims"?
Why is the word "claims" used for the following news item:


 * 1) China claims it has artificially produced snowfall by cloud seeding to ease drought. (AP via Google News)

I put forth the opinion that it sounds a little like anti-Chinese bias. Whatever other countries do is accepted automatically, but what China does, the validity is questioned by default.

Take the following for instance:


 * 1) A Columbian mammoth is discovered in the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles, California. (Reuters)

Why isn't it:


 * 1) America claims that a Columbian mammoth is discovered in the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles, California. (Reuters)

Or:


 * 1) Japan's National Astronomical Observatory completes the first topographic map of the Moon. (Daily Yomiuri)
 * 2) Japan claims that its National Astronomical Observatory completes the first topographic map of the Moon. (Daily Yomiuri)

(the former is active on the page)

If we automatically accept an assertion by America or Japan that they have made some advances, should we not treat China the same way? Or is the prevailing sentiment that news about China are less trustworthy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samy Merchi (talk • contribs) 12:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * In a word yes. Its not a slur against China, it's just that as a Communist state they don't allow as many freedoms as democratic states. The results is that a lot of info passes through the state and is liable to be doctored for propaganda purposes (for case in point see China GDP, which many feel the government is underestimating in order to alleviate foreign concern that the economy could overheat) --Daviessimo (talk) 07:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

2009 Bangladesh Rifles revolt
2009 Bangladesh Rifles revolt article was made to supply for the news ''The Bangladesh Rifles mutiny in Dhaka, killing one person and injuring eight. (AFP via Google News)''. Can someone please have a look at the article and update the first page with it? The news is very important and got the attention of World Media. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 03:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The revolt is getting worse, and spreading throughout various Bangladesh Rifles force camps around the country. Considering Bangladesh is one of the most populous countries in the world, this definitely merits an ITN mention. --Ragib (talk) 08:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Is the word, alleged, necessary in this context?
Is the word, alleged, necessary in this context, "US pharmaceutical company Pfizer settles a multi-billion dollar damages case with 200 alleged victims of a drug trial in Kano, Nigeria"?


 * 1) Although the settlement may contain a statement that the defendant, Pfizer, does not admit to wrongdoing, the agreement to pay damages typically removes any need for "alleged".
 * 2) "Alleged" is more often used on the other side of the equation, as in, "the alleged murderer was indicted ", or, " US pharmaceutical company Pfizer allegedly ran experimental drug tests on children without Nigerian government approval."

May the word "alleged" then be deleted? — Robert Greer (talk) 00:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Early March 2009 Nor'easter
I just stated a new topic about the heavy snowstorm.. please help me with it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattiss44 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

North Korea
I tried raising this on the main page errors reporting system but it was ignored. But the Democratic Front for the Re-unification of the Fatherland is not a "party", as it currently says on the main page. It is a united front consisted of three parties. Even if this is North Korea I think you still need to apply the correct terminology. Colipon+(T) 03:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Some positive news
There has been a lot of negative news lately on the current events portal...why not publish some positive news from the recent days? Such as:


 * Cuba sanctions eased
 * Horse domestication traced back 5,000 years to Central Asian Culture
 * Photos suggest that there is still liquid water on Mars

...and so on, and so on... --MoRsE (talk) 11:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Um...
No template for today. This isn't good, is it? ¿SFGi Д nts! ¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review! 02:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sometimes a bot creates the day beforehand, but when it doesn't, anyone can click the redlink and follow the simple copy and paste directions at the top for creating the structure. Gotyear (talk) 06:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

6/7 of the news are depressing
Who is in charge of mirroring their depressive mood onto the ITN template? Nergaal (talk) 17:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:ITN/C. That's where the ITN action is. There are only a few admins who regularly update ITN, but it's more which news items of international scope/interest are sufficiently updated (5-6 referenced sentences or so). It's more often the disasters and depressing news than breakthroughs in peace or science. Or that's how it seems, anyhow. The admins are glad to put up "positive" items, as I've seen them comment on at least once when the trend was complained about on the main page talk page.Gotyear (talk) 06:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Madagascar
Why isn't the current crisis in Madagascar mentioned in the News section? Inkan1969 (talk) 17:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:ITN/C for the discussion, 17 and 16 March. Gotyear (talk) 20:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sean Hodgson
I have made a stub-article for Sean Hodgson following his release on 18 March after 27 years false imprisonment (I was surprised that one was not there before). Could this please be expanded by other editors with background details about the convictions, murder and subsequent overturning of the guilty verdict. Thanks. 03md (talk) 21:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Mount Redoubt
Just to point out that currently the link to Mount Redoubt in the first news item on the main page is pointing to a disambiguation page - probably not the best planning ever... :-) Colds7ream (talk) 19:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Problem in "Topics in the News Section"
Could someone please remove the "A manufacturer is requested to increase production by over 300,000 in one week following the launch of two Turkish missiles at a former oil giant." topic in the "Topics in the News" section. It seems meaningless and I cannot understand what it means. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kb3mlmsk (talk • contribs) 01:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's an April Fools day joke. All the items in the "Topics in the news" box today are. See also WP:ERRORS.- gadfium 01:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia Britannica
They recently have published plans that state that they want to create a wiki site. Maybe we can put in here: Encyclopaedia Britannica details its plans to destroy (or a like word) Wikipedia. Here is a link providing information: Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

What the hell
what the hell is this    * A manufacturer is requested to increase production by over 300,000 in one week following the launch of two Turkish missiles at a former oil giant.

someone change it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.12.241 (talk) 03:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See April_Fool's_Main_Page/In_The_News. —SV 04:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Great Ex-President (a argentinian hero) death is a news a event of 31 March, not just a little recent death
That is what i wrote of that day and somebody just take that out; Lady Di death, Reagan death, and Alfonsin death Are News (I think), president of all South America are talking about that right now, Capital city of the nation have many people screaming her name, is a popular manifestation of love. Sorry i not logged in this languaje of wikipedia and sorry for my english. Please somebody add that again--201.255.42.83 (talk) 17:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Raul Alfonsin, Argentina's first president to be democratically elected after the "Dirty War" military dictatorship, has died of illness aged 82. 3 days of national mourning was decreted.(BBC)
 * The item was moved to the Deaths in 2009 article (also called "Recent deaths").- gadfium 20:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Following discussion, it's now on In the News on the Main Page.- gadfium 08:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Teen killed in terror attack in israel
Terrorist carrying axe attacks and kills 13-year-old youth in settlement of Bat Ayin in Gush Etzion.

seven-year-old child sustains light injuries.

Links:

[1] http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3696287,00.html

[2] http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/04/02/world/AP-ML-Israel-Palestinians.html?_r=1

[3] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7978699.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.110.127.190 (talk) 11:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2
Add to front page? --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 05:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:ITN/C. --70.50.200.155 (talk) 12:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Presidential Election in the Republic of Macedonia, 2009
Today there was a second (decisive) round of presidential and local elections in the Republic of Macedonia. I suggest that the result goes on the front page in the "In the news" section. There's also a page on the presidential elections here. Is this the right place to discuss/prepare the news? Crnorizec (talk) 19:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:ITN/C. --70.50.200.155 (talk) 12:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

add this IW link please

 * Wikipedia:近段辰光个事体 in Wuu language                 THX !!!(talk) 08:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

US Captain "released"
I don't think released is a good word here. I think rescued would make more sense. Released implies the pirates let him in go, when in fact they were killed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.171.224 (talk) 22:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Swine_influenza: Urgent edit need
Please, remove the link toward Swine influenza from the front page. The article Swine influenza is about pigs flu only (which means ALL kinds of influenza affecting pigs, how farmer keep their pigs alives, etc), while 2009 swine influenza outbreak is about the current human influenza outbreak (H1N1).

Since the 2 links are in the front page, well intentionned users are misleadingly adding informations into the TWO articles, without noticing the difference. All this will lead to a really confusing situation on wikipedia. Please, remove the link toward Swine influenza from the front page. --Yug (talk)  11:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Image for the flu
There =>

Yug (talk)  23:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Swine Flu got bumped off page
Request to put the Swine flu back on the main page citing:
 * 1) its high click rate for visitors
 * 2) ongoing event of worldwide concern --PigFlu Oink (talk) 04:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Who reads these things?
The new day's headline space hadn't been made when I wandered in here. Does no body read these things until they have something to post? :-( Just curious. Zelnr (talk) 02:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion for correction
The lead item currently reads "United Kingdom politician Michael Martin (pictured) announces his resignation in scandal over expenses, becoming the first House of Commons Speaker since 1695 to be forced from office." Shouldn't that be "United Kingdom politician Michael Martin (pictured) announces his resignation in a scandal over expenses, becoming the first House of Commons Speaker since 1695 to be forced from office."? --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 17:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like it has already been fixed. However, the place to point out problems in the "Topics in the news" section is WP:ERRORS, not here.- gadfium 21:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

70.106.222.169
Could someone else have a look at the edits of ? This user keeps adding links to just about every noun and verb to blurbs, and he/she keeps putting the relevant links at the unlikeliest of places. This one, for instance, where the heart of the matter (the scandal) is hidden behind a completely unrelated verb. This user refuses to use edit summaries or talk pages, despite countless request. I'm gonna leave this issue, I'm way past 3RR, so I'll be going on a self-imposed 24-hour block. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 23:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Raise the bar
In my opinion, this page has had too much hard news such as crimes, arrests, accidents, and natural disasters. Instead of such unusual stuff, we need to pick more realistic news. The history we write should make us look as good as we really are. For example, the winners of Dancing with the Stars are valid news. There’s plenty of civilized news out there. The papers have been going broke from following police cars and ambulances because hard news is not only stressful too much of it is actually boring. We should count our blessings as valid news, so people 100 years from will have a realistic opinion of us. --Chuck Marean 03:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

uplink and downlink in channel
give the concept of

uplink and downlink in channel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Praveenh28 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Reqeusting an edit
I can't figure out how to edit the Wikinews headline. Could somebody change Parents prosecuted after homeopathic treatment leads to his daughter's death to their daughter's death? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 01:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's been fixed, but the appropriate place to ask next time is on Wikinews. I'm not sure what their equivalent to our Requested moves page is, but you could try n:Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance.- gadfium 03:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this transcluded from Wikinews, or is there a page on Wikipedia transcluded on the Current Events page that these headlines come from? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 03:51, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It is transcluded from a local page on 'pedia, but it is updated by a bot on the hour, every hour, and the bot copies it direct from Wikinews. See and Category:Wikinews Importer Bot.  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

North korea nuclear test
BBC News article likely to be updated soon if someone wants to keep an eye on it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8066615.stm Beeurd (talk) 03:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

adding an internal link to the lead section of ahmadinejad winning election in iran,
In the lead section of the Ahmadinejad winning election in Iran there Which is : "President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (pictured) wins re-election, amid protests and allegations of electoral fraud." you shoud add an internal link to amid protest as : amid protests.80.191.242.195 (talk) 14:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson Death
Alright, there is WAY too much information about MJ's death. Minute details do not belong on the news.
 * I was just coming here to say this myself. Look at June 26. Is it really true that there were only TWO notable, newsworthy events that day that weren't related to Jackson? I mean, seriously... there is an entire world of stuff happening, there are 6 billion people who aren't Michael Jackson, this is ridiculous. 99.231.211.103 (talk) 03:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

AIDS vaccine
I would think this would be bigger news, unless tentative vaccines are regularly developed and aren't all that unique. --Phil1988 (talk) 03:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You may well be right that such vaccines regularly make it to this stage, and the real news will be if the human trials are deemed successful and it goes on to seek FDA approval or similar. I'm no expert on the subject. You might find more informed opinion at the Science Reference Desk or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. You could also just add it to Portal:Current events/2009 July 1 in the spirit of WP:BOLD and see if you get any objections!- gadfium 08:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews
Could somebody please remove the High school football coach shot dead at school gym in Iowa headline? This happened two weeks ago, not today. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 21:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Added "Health/Medicine" to 'Ongoing Events' sidebar
I did try to find out when the 2009 pandemic went off the sidebar, and what conversation it generated, but couldn't find it (I'm sure it is obvious, but before you flame, remember, those of us that don't spend weekly amounts of time here can't be expected to remember the 1001 places that Wikipedia places things). Anyway.

I've been very bold, or for me at least, it is very bold. I put in a new section to the 'Ongoing Events' sidebar, and included both the H1N1 and H5N1 flus. These are not finished events, and they do generate weekly/monthly international news articles.

I would state the merits of the created section, in that not only can it be used for disease outbreaks, but also any on-going news stories that span an amount of time (seperation of co-joined triplets, pharmaceutical scam causing deaths, etc. for some 'made-up' examples).

I'm sure other items can be added now, but I wanted to put the flus back on the radar first. I actually have used the Wikipedia 'Ongoing Events' section to quickly get to the pandemic news, which I watch regularly, as it pertains to my job (business continuity). To bolster my point of them being in the news, I posted two July 12th news items, to show the relevance. Kavri (talk) 20:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

How come it keeps getting put on the Current Events and taken off, put on, taken off? This is getting irritating.... I don't really see why it shouldn't be there! 66.110.224.114 (talk) 13:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

The Irish bill on blasphemy passed.
I think that's newsworthy. 98.14.223.143 (talk) 13:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If you simply want to see this covered on the section for 9 July, you can edit Portal:Current events/2009 July 9 yourself.


 * To nominate this for the "In the News" section, please go to In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. You will need to link to an updated Wikipedia article on the bill. We have Blasphemy law, but we need something more substantial than that. Censorship in the Republic of Ireland might be an appropriate article to add a section to.- gadfium 23:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It may already be too late to get this on the "In the News" section, since the bill was passed five or six days ago, and the section only covers more recent events.- gadfium 23:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Henry Allingham
The death of Henry Allingham at 113 should really be on the Main Page as part of ITN. Mjroots (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Accident on Autobahn
This incident made the morning news here, on the West Coast of the US; a 259-car pile-up is quite a big accident. This is also notable because when it rains, the Autobahn enforces a 120-km/hour speed limit, which should have been in place; will this accident lead to the speed being reduced further during rainstorms? However, there's no mention of this on Wikipedia, not even at Peine (where the accident occurred). -- llywrch (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Corazon Aquino
The death of Corazon Aquino has been added to Portal:Current events/2009 August 1 twice. I have removed it twice, because the guideline above the edit box explicitly states: "Do not list the ordinary deaths of prominent persons here. That's what recent deaths is for. Exceptions to this rule are made for persons of extreme prominence, such as Ronald Reagan, John Paul II, or the Queen Mother." While Aquino was a prominent person and I can see why her death is listed on ITN, I do not see how she was a person "of extreme prominence". Listing her on Recent deaths is sufficient, imo. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 14:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Ronald Reagan, John Paul II, or the Queen Mother. All are Westerners. w00t? – Howard  the   Duck  11:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Slovakia Mine Disaster
I don't think this incident is worth putting on the Main Page. Mine disasters resulting in more than 20 deaths happens almost every two weeks in China. Alonso McLaren (talk) 09:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Photo next to news item?
We've received an email (OTRS 2009081310032348) complaining about the photo not always being next to the correct item, e.g. currently the photo of Rafael Correa is next to "After 15 years in hiding, Grégoire Ndahimana is arrested in North Kivu for the alleged murder of 2,000 Tutsi civilians during the Rwandan Genocide." and since not everyone will read all the news items to see "(pictured)" lower down, it's a rather nasty thing to do to whoever is in the photo.

I suggest that the photo always be next to the news item, or if the item is too low down then to rather not have a photo. -- Jeandré (talk), 2009-08-13t11:36z
 * See FAQ/Main Page. The most appropriate place to raise this is probably Template talk:In the news, but you should be aware that this is a frequently raised matter, and there are many previous discussions in both the archives of that page and of Talk:Main Page. It appears all attempts to reduce concern, whether by moving the picture to be next to the news item, or by bolding the "(pictured)" caption next to the relevant item, have caused greater problems with the layout of the page.- gadfium 20:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

ACLU
I am not sure if this is where I need to be but in terms of the news of today by Jon Scott and Jane Skinner I am furious about what the ACLU is doing to the Principal and coach for saying a short prayer to thank contributors for helpiong their school athletic programs.Can't the right people do something to this organization for taking prayer too far and taking prayer out of our whole society??

Can't the AmericanPeople ( I mean legal Americans born and raised in the US) see what is happening to our nation and society by taking GOD out of everything we use to stand for. Compare my generaton and my parents generation (20's and 40's) then, and what the hell is happening now because of all of this. In school back in the 40's and 50's we all stood and pledged to the flag first in front of our school and then went into class and prayed the Lord's Prayer and then began what was a good day in school learning and starting the day with a good attitude and fewer problems etc. I can't believe that people don't see things are so out of control because the ACLU and  people who don't have anything better to do, have to change things in a very NEGATIVE way?? Lets all go back to the 30's and 40's all before this computer world came to fuition and try to see how things were run then and how things are run now.

Change is good but negative change is a disaster?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.218.34 (talk) 16:42, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid this is not really the appropriate place for this. There are probably a great number of online forums where you can share your opinion and get people discussing or fighting or whatever they want to do over it. This page is for improving the current events page/box, not for discussing the news itself. The Mink Ermine Fox (talk) 20:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Russian hydroelectric station accident
Currently this item, which is also on the Wikipedia home page, says that 12 are dead. Considering that another 60+ people are believed to have probably been killed, shouldn't it say something along those lines?

(Please don't reply to the talk page for this IP address; I rarely use it. Just make the change or don't, as you see fit.) --70.48.229.168 (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi
Re.


 * 1) Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, convicted of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie in 1988, is released on compassionate grounds, to return to Libya due to terminal cancer. (AFP via News Limited)


 * Please note, he has not been released. They have granted him release. He is not out yet.  Chzz  ►  17:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't
Bolt's record go to the top? He just got the record 1h ago and it is already listed at the bottom? Nergaal (talk) 20:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it was added when the 100 record was set Francium12 (talk) 18:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Somali Pirates attack helicopter?
Hi, could we put somthing in about the current event: Somali Pirates Attack Helicopter with Large caliber weapon. This happened August 27, 2009. I'm a new user, so I think I can't edit the current event page. Thanks! Wackogamer123 (talk) 18:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090827/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_piracy_us_helicopter, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32578628/ns/world_news-africa/?ocid=MSNToolbar130, http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/08/27/somalia.us.pirates/

Reading Rainbow vandalism
Didn't anyone notice it ?

"# Reading Rainbow, the third longest-running children's show on United States public-service television network PBS, ends its 26-year run. It's about time to, I wonder if they kept the same guy, if so I also wonder if he ever saw a rainbow on the show, and wished that he was doing something different with his life. If you ask me I thought the show was stupid like Barney, (Charles Barkley) I'd like to add something (Maurice) Sure. (Charles Barkley) How the h*** a rainbow goin to read. (Maurice) I don't know it's just the show title. (Charles) I personally think the title of the show is terrible, just terrible!, they couldn't named it "I pay you if you read with me". (Maurice) That title is too long. (Charles) That's why they got editors to paraphrase it.(NPR)"

What the hell ? --93.185.50.19 (talk) 19:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

ted kenny
Please stop putting him in the current events we get the point. don't need to make a Michal Jackson out of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.216.36.52 (talk) 21:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

violence in myanmar?
Because I don't think a country called Burma exists anymore... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.127.188.10 (talk) 03:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * FYI, Myanmar does exist. Myanmar was formerly known as Burma. Bejinhan  Talk   13:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate day
There are two green boxes for September 7, 2009 (2009-09-07) (Monday). Their edit links leads to the same page. However, one of the boxes has four items and the other is empty. Furthermore, if you click the edit link, the four items do not appear, the list is empty. I clicked purge, but that did not help. What is happening? --Anna Lincoln (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed, I cleaned my browser cache. --Anna Lincoln (talk) 10:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Bosavi Wolly Rat
Is there really no other picture that can be used for today's news? Posting a domestic Rattus norvegicus to represent a new Mallomys is rather cringeworthy. "Rat" is a very broad term referring to many groups of unrelated medium-sized rodents. This implies that the picture has anything to do with the animal, but, although both murines, the only real connection is that someone used a similar term for the two. It's almost equivalent to someone discussing a new Old World monkey species and putting up a picture of a person who is commonly nicknamed "monkey". --Aranae (talk) 13:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

It's "lightning", not "lightening".
I don't know what drives people to put an extra "e" in this two-syllable word, but it always irks me. And on the Wikipedia Main Page, no less. 68.113.166.243 (talk) 10:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Poe funeral
I've changed current events to note that it's not the anniversary of Poe's birth (in January) or for that matter his death (which was Oct. 9, making the anniversary Friday). The BBC article cited seems incorrect (or else several of our Poe articles are). -- 128.205.35.24 (talk) 20:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Where'd the Balloon Boy headline go?
Now you see it, now you don't! Did a member of the family get on here and take it down? 71.117.168.218 (talk) 06:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Ongoing events subcategories
Whatever happened to the "Humanitarian" subcategory under Ongoing Events? I remember it up until a few months ago. I propose it be brought back. As it is now, I think a current situation like the typhoons in The Philippines deserves to be linked on the Current Events page more than the 2009 West African meningitis outbreak, which hasn't had any major updates since June. 67.173.83.182 (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

CIT is bust
Put the news about the CIT bankruptcy on your main page and news page! - it is far more important than a lot of rubbish you "report" - actually collate - there. Best regards, Alex Brykowski in Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.187.161.207 (talk) 10:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Phillies win? somebody is messing with the current events.
On the front page of wikipedia it reports that that the phillies won - though in current events it is correct.

I'm not clear how to fix it - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericwolf2 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't see the report you refer to. "In the News" appears to always have reported it as a Yankees win, although the wording has been tweaked since it was first put up.- gadfium 21:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

War in Afghanistan
I was wondering if a page had been created for the shootings in Helmand Province, where a police officer killed six British troops. If not, is it notable and what should the page be called? 03 md  01:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of such a page, nor can I find any mention of the incident at such pages as War in Afghanistan (2001–present) or Helmand province campaign. You are likely to get a better informed response if you copy your question to Talk:War in Afghanistan (2001–present).- gadfium 05:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Snowed in in NY
is the Blizzard of 2009 significant enough to warrant inclusion as a current event in the portal?

Thanks, -ekozie &#91;@gmail.com&#93; (talk) 03:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

edit:: scratch that...there are two articles, the one above, and the North American Blizzard of 2009/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekozie (talk • contribs) 03:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Deaths of prominent persons
There have been a lot of these on P:CE lately, most of whom are nowhere near as prominent as the exceptions listed in the edit notice which specifically says "Do not report deaths of prominent persons here. That's what recent deaths is for. Exceptions apply to persons of extreme prominence such as the Queen Mum, Ronald Reagan etc". Has this changed? HJMitchell   You rang?   02:59, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Alleged racial violence in Melbourne
why is this on the front page as a headline news article? It is a localized issue, which has been massively blown out of proportion by the media. How it can merit the same weight as other items on the list is beyond me. It seems even the editors of wikipedia have been sucked into the vortex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitsuhirato (talk • contribs) 00:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Blizzard
According to the US blizzard article, there were seven deaths, but the "topics in the news" says there were only five. Can that be changed? --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 04:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's being discussed at Main Page/Errors, but the discussion perhaps has lost sight of this number. You are welcome to contribute to that discussion.- gadfium 05:37, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

U.F.O. sightings 31.12.2009/1.1.2010
I saw some small orange UFO's lsts night, & i have seen reports of UFO's near where i live & across the world. Did anyone here see anything that could confirm these reports? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don't look back in anger (talk • contribs) 14:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Bizzare Vandalism- How to remove
When I was looking at this page just now I saw this under the time template "lovie i the waht alihsa st.monica the ali tablian the waht to the waht" it seems strange that an established user would put this, and I can not find a way to remove it from the page Any ideas? Zobango (talk) 11:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Trustworthyness and use of various sources
A question: What is the (is there any) policy about using questionable sources like Xinhua, Granma, TASS, etc. that may not be neutral? 76.117.247.55 (talk) 17:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * For a full discussion, please ask this question at Reliable sources/Noticeboard.


 * My own opinion is that sources which show bias may be acceptable in this current events page, but efforts should be made firstly to find an impartial source, but in the absence of that to also find a source which gives a contrary opinion. For example, it might not be appropriate to give only a Palestinian or only an Israeli source for an incident in the Middle East, and if a BBC story is available, that would probably be preferable to either.- gadfium 20:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

haiti earthquake
how many of them who died on the earthquake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.10.106 (talk) 18:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Port Royal in Jamaica Earthquake in the 1500's
Has anyone connected the earthquake in Haiti with this historic quake

David —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.87.200.233 (talk) 21:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See 2010 Haiti earthquake for a mention of previous earthquakes. While there is a link to the 1692 Jamaica earthquake, which is the quake I presume you are referring to, it does not appear to be directly connected to this one. You might like to ask at Talk:2010 Haiti earthquake if you wish to pursue this further, or ask at the Wikipedia reference desk (perhaps the Science desk would be the most appropriate).- gadfium 05:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Lahore police academy attack
Added this to ITN. yousaf465

the al-Anfal Campaign
When something has 'al-' in front of it you do not also need to use 'the/a'. al is an article, saying 'the al-Anfal Campaign' is redundant, like 'the the-Anfal Campaign'. I Didn't see a way to change this article, sorry if this is the wrong place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.99.129 (talk) 18:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Salinger death
Could someone add J.D. Salinger's death to the current events section. Remember (talk) 18:38, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Earthquake off California
5.9, possibly a foreshock to "The Big One (Earthquake)". I fear the Olympics may be subject to God's wrath next, what with the wole "Believe" BS. Those who compete for fame & Glory...http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/02/04/BAVG1BSOAJ.DTL&tsp=1 156.34.183.137 (talk) 23:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

SuperBowl XIV
There's no news about the Superbowl?? New Orleans vs. Indianapolis in Miami, Florida. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.82.207 (talk) 01:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Death
What a wonderfully balanced current events section we have. Five of the six events on the main page being about groups of people dying, in natural and man-made disasters. That's all that's really going on in the world, right? Lots of people dying?

What are we, a newspaper? Fox News? Some guy (talk) 11:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Catholic Church
Seems that if we're not covering death and murders, news involving scandals with the Catholic Church are almost always a reliable addition. The most recent story was even shuffled to the top of the list of events. Does someone out there have a grudge? Some other guy (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.57.160 (talk)

Featured Portal
Why is it not a featured portal? -- Extra999 (talk) 07:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't believe anyone has ever nominated it. Do you think it meets the criteria in Featured portal criteria? A nomination should come from someone who has been involved with the portal over a long time, and should probably be preceded by a Portal peer review.- gadfium 20:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

there is no news about Shang Hai ,China
May first Shanghai will hold a big event ,do you want to see it ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Julia2zhu (talk • contribs) 05:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This portal doesn't cover future events, except for holidays and trials due in the next few days. There have been dates of future elections here but I don't know if they still appear. Anything due to happen in May is too far in the future.- gadfium 20:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

how you make it easier to see what history is
you make it much easier yo see what history is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.114.47 (talk) 22:19, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

sir i want to start new topic of 3g technology Bold textdo you halp me to starta new topic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.50.42 (talk) 10:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Trials should be removed
I believe Trials should be removed from current events rather this space should assigned to events like confrences, expos fair, summit etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puneetsoni (talk • contribs) 17:56, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Health Care news should wait.
There is bound to be a lot of news coming with the US health care reform bill passing. I think we should wait to post anything on it. Perhaps after the president signs it into act, so as to not flood the ITN with health care blurbs.  -Cam Tundefined C 04:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

biggest recording deal
Is it correct to call it a recording deal, seeing as the artist is dead and isn't likely to be recording much... --86.179.186.239 (talk) 14:29, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

22 March 2010 (2010-03-22) (Monday)
Is the use of the "N" word in this section necessary? While Wikipedia is not censored, of course, i question weather this word should be shown in the article summery or just only be included in the article itself? to be honest im not quite sure myself which would be better so thought id post here to see others thoughts too. Evenios (talk) 17:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say yes. It's much more helpful than something ambiguous, because it's impossible for people to judge the severity - and hence the importance - if we say 'racist obscenities' or something like that. If we know he was called a nigger, then the full unpleasantness of the incident is revealed. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Anybody who has a British pound symbol on their keyboard...
Could you change the Euro symbols in ''# The Times and The Sunday Times announce they are to charge €1 per day and €2 per week for online access from June 2010 and split into two websites from Times Online. (The Guardian) (Wall Street Journal) (RTÉ) (The New York Times)'' to pound symbols? Woogee (talk) 21:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * TY. Woogee (talk) 05:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

US-centrism lately
you refuse to pose the Wikileaks case but post anything that even remotely makes the US looks good. What is this, the state department? --Athinker (talk) 10:03, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * This is a wiki. Feel free to modify the pages yourself. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * We are all individuals. Post what you want, so long as it's international news.  What do you mean by "refuse to post"?  Who has refused to post anything?  Woogee (talk) 23:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Mine disaster in China
2010 Wangjialing coal mine flood. This is all over the news in China, but seems to be missing on the news in Wikipedia. They just rescued 9 miners who were trapped for a week. --Tocino 18:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Aral Sea
Aral Sea environmental disaster is a part of Central Asia hundreds of years old drying of the area problem. It caused movement of populations away - origin of Finns, Germans, etal. The prolem was accelerated by Soviet era damming of Volga river, reducing water flow to Caspian Sea (actually lake), lowering of the level of Caspian Sea, reduced evaporation from the Sea, etc. This process continues and endagers welfare of local Stans. --- It could be arrested by giant project made possible at the current level of technology - building a canal from Black Sea to Caspian Sea - unprecedented project for the UN. Crucial part would be participation of Russia. The scope requires use of nuclear technology. Russia has some research done in this area - found technically feasable, but of monumental scale, must be supranational. Possibly, UN could do it, but not national governments... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.226.216 (talk) 20:05, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikileaks airstrike video
I think it's important for this event to be part of "In the news." Aside from being another example of how the mainstream media fails to adequately cover important issues, Wikileaks is (in a manner of speaking) a sister project of Wikipedia. I regularly see news items on Wikipedia that I don't see in other sources, and I think the release of this airstrike video deserves to be one of those things. 58.161.196.194 (talk) 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's on ITN now. Requests for inclusion in the "In the News" section should go to In the news/Candidates, not here.


 * Incidentally, there is no connection between Wikipedia and Wikileaks as far as I am aware, other than that they also use the MediaWiki software developed for WP.- gadfium 21:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Number of Items For A Single Heading?
There are 12, count them 12 items for the Polish Air Crash. Surely this is excessive. Giving one item this many subitems is like making it more important than other news items in the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.160.236 (talk) 03:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I do totally agree with this because there are so many news that is more beneficial and informative to post.Justine 00:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Formatting of source names
Reading through the page, I noticed that some sources are in italics and others aren't - but it doesn't seem to be consistent. Is there supposed to be any implication of mainstream, or language, or trustworthiness of a source in whether it's italicised or not, or is it semi-random according to who adds the sourcing? --Firien need help? 06:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

At least 85 people are killed in a series of bombings over two days in Baghdad. .Is this a very accurate information because some of my friends and officemates react on this.Justine 00:12, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Movie releases
Does the release of a single movie (the 2010 version of Nightmare on Elm Street) deserve a mention here? Where do we draw the line? Every movie released in the world in the upcoming future? Why stop at movies? Why not mention the first episode of every new TV show on every TV channel in every country in the worl? Woogee (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * For the record, I added the entry in question. I have no idea how often this type of story has been added in the past (I've only been active in CE for about a month), but I think around 3-5 movie releases a year should be listed.  My reasoning is as follows: 1) there is no obvious reason to exclude entertainment stories.  2) The release of a major movie is a significant entertainment story.  3) Modern movie releases are international events in that the same movie is released in many countries on the same date.
 * I would draw the line on movies that are both 1) highly anticipated and 2) internationally released. New TV shows are unlikely to ever meet both criteria, although the final episode of extremely popular shows may occasionally qualify. --ThaddeusB (talk) 00:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

UK General Election
Obviously this is an important bit of news right now, but do we really need to know about every single candidate in every constituency? I mean, there's a line that says some person got 4th place with only 4.4% of the vote; is this really necessary? 140.247.237.20 (talk) 05:38, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Typo in May 8 2010 Headlines section?
? Disenfanchised?? I think it is.

"United Kingdom general election, 2010: Eligible voters in the United Kingdom general election, 2010 who are living in New Zealand are the latest to be disenfrItalic textanchised as anger grows over the disfranchisement of citizens living in the UK who were queuing to vote as polls closed. (The New Zealand Herald)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.25.75.70 (talk) 16:43, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks for reporting it. You could have fixed it yourself, by clicking on the "edit" button for that section.- gadfium 20:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews should be more prominent on this page
I realize that there are several links to wikinews on this page but the wikinews logo should be displayed prominently at the top to familiarize more people with wikinews and drive more of the current events articles to be written in wikinews instead of wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Govtrust (talk • contribs) 15:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

No Kagan nomination?
Why is Elena Kagan's SCOTUS nomination not listed in "ongoing events?" -- 67.247.204.64 (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Norway's National Day
Dear Sir or Madam,

Wikipedia has not mentioned that it is Norways National Day in the current events, I believe that it is in the worlds interest to recognise the various countries national days. hope that this can be adjusted accordingly.

Thank you (tusen tak) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.149.203.120 (talk) 08:57, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * National days such as Norwegian Constitution Day are carried on our front page in the "On this day..." section, not the "In the news..." section. The Norwegian day appears on the front page for today.- gadfium 09:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Bob Seddon
Col Bob Seddon is not Bob Sneddon, nor Bob Seddon.
 * Thanks, incorrect link has been removed.- gadfium 20:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Mid-air
"South Korea's Naro-1 rocket (replica pictured), carrying the STSAT-2B satellite, explodes in mid-air in its second consecutive launch failure." What is "mid-air"?
 * It means the rocket had taken off, but was not yet in space.- gadfium 06:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

UK election
Gordon Brown resigning = newsworthy?
 * Yes Greggydude (talk) 11:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Election bias
I'm confused: why does the win of the VVD in the Netherlands merit a promotion to the top while the landslide elections in Belgium a few days later don't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.78.85.225 (talk) 09:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's about to be added (ie within the next day). See In the news/Candidates.- gadfium 10:28, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Iraq War
Is there still one? If so is it still a 'war'? Greggydude (talk) 11:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure that there was a Declaration of War as much as a Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_the_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Against_Iraq where congress authorized the use of Armed Forces by the Executive Branch. If a consensus is reached that there are no ongoing conflicts worthy of the war title then we should be sure that the Iraq_War page reflects that. We might also consider the 2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech marked the end of the war. ((This is my first comment, I hope that I did things the right way.)) Nordy (talk) 17:07, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Marriage of the future Swedish monarch?
The Crown Princess of Sweden married Daniel Westling today. I suppose that's newsworthy. Surtsicna (talk) 17:25, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears someone has already added it, to Portal:Current events/2010 June 19, and to In the news.- gadfium 21:01, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Stale news items in Topics in the News
Most of the items in Topics in the News of June 22nd, 2010 are stale. I think we need someone to watch this section to keep it fresh and worth reading. 63.138.70.132 (talk) 23:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The place to suggest updates for In The News is at In the news/Candidates.- gadfium 00:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Asteroid occultation
Upcoming event:


 * At 21:57 UT, on Thursday, July 8, 2010, the 50 km wide asteroid 472 Roma will occult the star Delta Ophiuchi in an event lasting about five seconds. The occultation path will cross central Europe along a band running through Stockholm, Copenhagen, Bremen, Nantes and Bilbao. This will be the only asteroid occultation event visible to the naked eye during the 21st century.

Ref.:

Note: these events can be astronomically useful because a cross-sectional profile of the asteroid can be constructed by timing the occultation at various locations. Thanks.&mdash;RJH (talk) 20:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Categorizing of Current Events portals
In case you guys haven't noticed, I took initiative yesterday, and divided each day's CE portals into categories.

The reason why I did it was because I believe the old system was way too disorganized, and as a news (or current events, if you prefer) aggregator of sorts, we need to be more organized.

Some users have raised the issue that we might need to discuss the categories that are included. So, I've decided to ask for your help in determining what categories should be used. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 05:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

My Proposal
For good measure, I'm including my criteria for the categories
 * Current Events: news of significant impact or importance on that day
 * Science: news related to science and environment, but not significant enough for the CE category
 * Politics and Elections (or simply Politics, if there are no elections that day): All political stories, except those that are really significant, and all election stories.
 * Sports: All sports stories
 * Arts and Entertainment: All arts and entertainment stories.

I have decided to start a taskforce page to coordinate reforms in this area. Please visit the taskforce page to comment and propose reforms on this page! Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 19:08, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm moving the sports stuffs to Portal:Current events/Sports. Only the utmost top sports news, such as Grand Slam and World Cup finals, should be on P:CE. --PFHLai (talk) 09:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why do we need these subdivisions in the first place? What was wrong with the previous format? And why couldn't this have been discussed beforehand? Why the hurry? And why, when people do object, when it becomes clear that there is no consensus yet, are they being reverted? WP:BRD, anyone? 94.212.31.237 (talk) 11:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have clearly stated my reasons above, 94.212.31.237. Read carefully. Also, while there were reverts before, I have talked to some of those people, and they have come onboard to help change the style. I also have to point out that at this point, the few reverts are coming from a few people, which implies acceptance, IMO. Finally, the "reverts" you mentioned, 94.212.31.237, are yours, so please stop misrepresenting them as some part of a greater effort to revert the changes. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 16:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You're contradicting yourself here. First you say that you have talked to people that were reverted, then you go on to talk about a "few reverts ... from a few people", and then you somehow conclude that the reverts are mine. It's one way or the other. And if consensus doesn't go my way, fine, that's part of life, but you didn't even bother to find consensus. You didn't even bother to think how other people might feel about this. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 17:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The first link you posted was a revert that someone else did to your revert. The second one was a revert I made on another user, who I have since talked to. He has since proposed changes to my system, which means he accepts my system in principle. You are still misrepresenting your links as a part of a wider effort to oppose this proposal. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 18:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Another editor who disagrees with the new formatting gets reverted (twice). This is starting to look like silencing the critics. When will you accept that there is no consensus yet? Why can't you set up something in your userspace, "so that people can see for themselves the changes"? 94.212.31.237 (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

The subdivisions seem a little messy right now and have changed a couple times in the past few days, so having one single set would be nice, if we can work it out. Kudos to Kiteinthewind for the idea and initiative! 216.237.232.178 (talk) 17:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, another user talked to me last night, and we worked out some new categories. I noted that nothing is perfect with this proposal, but news is not a perfect institution either. I welcome your input on this matter. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 18:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I am against this proposal there isnt enough events to fill the cats, and I feel it is unneeded and what goes into what Cat can be argued about too much. FYI too a proposal should not go into effect until a consensus can be reached. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe we need to have a test case, just to see the improvements. Why not allow a trial run? Also, we are talking about very general categories here, anything to sort out the mess of news that appeared here before. I will admit that we need to settle what goes into what cats, but then, some are no-brainers. This is why we need to develop rules, and have trial runs, instead of quashing the idea at first sight. How will Wikipedia improve if we don't try? Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 20:05, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay sure give it a trial run I just see arguements down the line about why such and such isnt here and why such and such is there. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, there may be arguments, but those can be ironed out, and we will iron them out here. Nothing is easy, and I did not expect this to be. However, this "difficulty" is really not a reason for us to back away from this proposal (I would dare say it's a pathetic reason, but I will AGF.)

The section "Current events", and even sometimes "Other current events" (I have removed some of those already), within a page named "Current events" makes it really difficult to understand what topics to put in which sections. Aren't the topics included within the section "Armed conflicts and incidents", "Politics", etc. also current events by virtue of being included in a page named "Current events"? I am afraid this makes me think of the famous categorizing of animals, in "a certain Chinese encyclopedia called the Heavenly Emporium of Benevolent Knowledge", into
 * "(a) those that belong to the emperor; (b) embalmed ones; (c) those that are trained; (d) suckling pigs; (e) mermaids; (f) fabulous ones; (g) stray dogs; (h) those that are included in this classification; (i) those that tremble as if they were mad; (j) innumerable ones; (k) those drawn with a very fine camel's-hair brush; (l) etcetera; (m) those that have just broken the flower vase; (n) those that at a distance resemble flies." (see Celestial Emporium of Benevolent Knowledge's Taxonomy)

--Edcolins (talk) 17:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * My thoughts exactly, Ed. Clear-cut divisions are impossible here, so imo it's best not to attempt it in the first place. Most economic items are also political (Deepwater Horizon), almost every armed conflict is political. For two proposed headers, we've already got subpages (Sports and Science and technology). And then there are headers like "Current events", "Major current events" and "Other current events" within a page named "Current events", as you describe. Despite all the good intentions of the creators (of which I am convinced, even if it hasn't come across that way), I believe that the structure creates more chaos and confusion than it solves. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 18:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I said earlier, to back down because of the potential for arguments on which section we place the newsline in is a rather pathetic excuse to end this experiment. I will not speak for everyone here, but to be brutally honest (and honesty is the best medicine, IMHO), I am rather tired of the unorganized nature of the daily CE portals of the past. This issue can easily be resolved via some form of MOS or something (and I resent the assertions by Edcolins that an MOS is equivalent to the "book" described by a discredited essay of questionable reliability). Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 18:57, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The new format needs to be an improvement on the old one. If it's not (and I feel that way), we've got every reason to end the experiment. I agree with you that the pages are chaotic and unorganized. But the reason is that too much fluff, too much non-news, is included. We need to raise the bar, that's the only way to get us out of this mess. 94.212.31.237 (talk) 19:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Every single new idea includes changes. Rarely do we see ideas so workable that it is implemented without amendments or reworks. In this case, can we at least make an effort to iron out the differences? I can see you have ideas on how to improve the cats. Why don't we work together on this issue? Also, newsworthiness is such a nebulous concept that even if we were to "raise the bar", as you have said, it would provoke a lot of oppositions, certainly a lot more opposition than categorizing, IMO. Why don't we work out the problems, and not add on to it? Also, please feel free to register for an account here, 94.212.31.237. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 19:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Well I backed down and am letting it run its course and I have even come to see the good intentions by the creator here, however I contune to be confused. My biggest problem with this now is that the categories contune to be changed, one point its called law, then law and crime, one minnute this is in this section, the next it is in this one. Is there any system that can be put in place here, or does this do more harm than good? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I, along with the people involved in this, are working out on the specific naming of the categories. Please visit the taskforce page for a list of proposals, and also comment on it! Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 20:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay here is my input on the criteria for the categories:


 * "Current Events: news of significant impact or importance on that day."

Important current events are featured on the main page usually and a 2nd criteria would need to be put in place on what to call impotant enough for this section.


 * "Science: news related to science and environment, but not significant enough for the CE category."

I have no problem with a science section however this can be mixed up with politics such as global warming, an example of an event falling into two sections.


 * "Politics and Elections (or simply Politics, if there are no elections that day): All political stories, except those that are really significant, and all election stories."

Politics can involve and revolve just about any subject.


 * "Sports: All sports stories"

Sports can go along with entertainment other than that I see no problem here


 * "Arts and Entertainment: All arts and entertainment stories."

Again no problem here the conflict I see is Entertainment and sports

As more current events are added the more hard it will be to decide what to put where. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:26, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I understand, and that is why we need some ground rules. Now, with politics, we can focus on, say, elected officials, political scandals, legislations, and those kinds of things. With science, we will simply stick to the facts, and not the passions. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 20:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposals to Categorize the Current events portal
I have taken the liberty to put here the various proposals to categorize the newslines in this portal

Proposal by User:Gregcaletta Gregcaletta has proposed the following categories:


 * 1) Violent incidents
 * 2) Weather and environmental incidents
 * 3) Law and politics
 * 4) Business and economy
 * 5) Science
 * 6) Arts and entertainment (or "arts and popular culture" or "arts and celebrity culture".)
 * 7) Sport
 * 8) Other events

Proposal by User:Kiteinthewind I am proposing the following categories, with guidelines as to which stories will qualify for inclusion in that category.


 * 1) Major events- Events so major (such as the BP Oil Spill) that it deserves a separate coverage.
 * 2) Arts and entertainment (or Arts and Culture)- Same as Gregcaletta's similarly named category. Mainly covering arts and entertainment-related stories. When a celebrity (Mel Gibson, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.) is on the wrong side of the law, the story will go in this category, not the law category below.
 * 3) Armed conflicts and incidents- Name change on Gregcaletta's "Violent incidents" category. Covering stories of war and violent incidents that are not related to wars (in a proper sense), such as terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc.
 * 4) Business and Economy- Same as Gregcaletta's similarly named category. Standard business news and news about the economy.
 * 5) Politics and Elections (or Politics, when there are no elections)- Separating Gregcaletta's "Law and politics" category into a politics section, and a law section. This will cover political stories, as we normally see it in the news, such as new legislations being passed by lawmakers, politician scandals, etc. Will include election results, when there are election results to be reported on.
 * 6) Law- Again, separating Gregcaletta's "Law and politics" category into a politics section, and a law section. Will cover stories related to law and order (obvious reason why I did not use that term as the title for this category). Will cover crime stories, and court stories.
 * 7) Science- Same as Gregcaletta's similarly named category. Everything science, technology, and weather.
 * 8) Sports- Same as Gregcaletta's similarly named category. Self-explanatory as to what will go in here.

Proposal by User:Passionless Passionless has taken another approach in the categorizing of stories. He is proposing that we categorize instead by continents, with the big, transcending continent, stories being categorized as "World" stories. There will also be a Science category, and entertainment category.

More discussions on this topic can be found here.

Please feel free to comment. Thank you! Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 08:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I like Kiteinthewind's categories. Sometimes continent stories can be confusing ie. if Spain or Netherlands wins the world cup. is it an African story. Capitalistroadster (talk) 08:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments regarding all proposals: Please don't use "Major events" or "Current events" as cat. headings. Everything on Portal: Current events should be major current events to start with. Otherwise, it won't be on the page. If you think the BP oil spill should have its separate coverage (I don't think so, though, at least not anymore. Better under "Environment" with weather-related stories.), then maybe the cat. heading should be "BP Oil Spill". --PFHLai (talk) 13:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)