Portal talk:Current events/Archive 8

December 21
Where are the Dec 21 boxes? Its half over here in New Zealand. I can assure you that we are all still alive and kicking :)-Kiwipat (talk) 23:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Christmas in the news
Christmas should/should not be a news item in Current Events. Discuss. It was added in the Dec 25 2012 current events page, whereas the policy in the past has been to not include yearly holidays. Linkminer (talk) 07:13, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Most news outlets report events such as the Queen's Speech and the Pope's Christmas address so in that respect it seems fine to mention Christmas. It's posibly not strictly correct to say Christmas is celebrated by Christians throughout the world though as some branches of Christianity celebrate it on 7 January. Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There should be a page for guidelines regarding recurring items in Portal:Current events/Inclusion, corresponding to the In the news/Recurring items, but I didn't find any. Does anyone know if there are such guidelines anywhere? Mikael Häggström (talk) 20:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Accessibility of sub-headings
The sections of this portal use semicolons to crate the visual appearance of sub-headings, rather than the "==" type wikimarkup which creates proper HTML headings (they actually create an incomplete definition list). This is against the WCAG web accessibility guidelines to which we are supposed to adhere. How might we use the proper markup? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Headings significantly aid navigation for screen reader users like myself, so it would be better if the page used proper heading wiki-markup. Graham 87 05:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 February 2013
Re top item ("The Women's Cricket World Cup concludes with Australia defeating the West Indies in the final."), this can be improved to: The 10th Women's Cricket World Cup final ends with Australia defeating the West Indies by 114 runs to become six-time winners.

The picture next to it should be moved down to the meteor item, the end of which can be shortened by moving the "broken glass" reference, becoming "In central Russia, shock waves from a meteor (pictured)—the largest recorded object encountered by Earth since 1908—cause widespread broken glass to injure more than 1,000 people."

Pete Hobbs (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The content that you describe is in Template:In the news, which is discussed at Wikipedia talk:In the news. I should also mention that the ITN image always goes top right, even if it's related to an ITN item which is not at the top. -- Red rose64 (talk) 15:12, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Vandelism Feb 26,
Zeraya is very, very, very BEAUTIFUL! She is awesome and very funny. Zeraya loves to eat, but she is skinny. She lives in Santa Rita and is now going to live Yigo. she is so smart and crazy. --Prettyprincess671 (talk) 09:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC) Prettyprincess671

Is posted right at the top of the page eh. How did that get in? King (talk) 10:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Like most of the encyclopedia, the daily news pages can be edited by anyone. Nonsense like that is typically spotted and removed very quickly, though that text lasted 16 minutes. If you happen to be the first to see an unhelpful edit, feel free to remove it. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:21, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Portal:Current events, is protected and cannot be edited, that why it surprised me. Unless I'm missing something, but I'd think that this page would be closed for edits for at least most people outside of Mods/Admin etc. King (talk) 15:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The "Edit" link at the top of the page is only for admins, but the daily news boxes have their own edit links at the top right of each one. You should find you can use those. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Aye yes, I do see that now, and I understand how the vandalism was done. Thanks for pointing that out! King (talk) 00:08, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request for Tuesday, March 5, 2013- Chávez's death
Hi! As you may have heard an hour ago, Hugo Chávez died. So I think that should be seen on the main page. -- Puisque (talk) 23:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This is the wrong page. Please see WP:ITN/C -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism - 19 March 2013, 07:00 UTC
Text of Vandalism:

Please delete ASAP. Wd40 (talk) 07:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your report. The vandalism was removed at about the time you posted this. You could have done so yourself, because the individual day pages are not protected.


 * I've removed the text from your post. No need to give this advertising any more visibility.- gadfium 07:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Offshore leaks
Offshore leaks is the dominant topic in European news. Should be globally relevant. --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:21, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Find a news article to link to and put it in the relevant day/section, then! Ansh666 01:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Iceland
The blurb here describes the Independence Party as having a plurality. The article to which this links says they are tied for first. This is not a plurality; please correct one or the other. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:08, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Since the topmost box is shared from the Main Page, the proper place to report errors is Main Page/Errors. But someone has already changed the wording. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:17, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

need address for subscribing to RSS feeds of Wikipedia Current events
Unless I missed the icon, unable to find link (address) for subscribing to RSS feeds from this very important Wikipedia site. Please provide as soon as possible. Much thanks. :) Kdarwish1 (talk) 06:00, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Information in 'Trial' section is (very) outdated
In terms of Recently concluded, Ongoing, Upcoming. I have removed some. But I think there are many more. Please help. Thanks, New worl (talk) 03:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Too long entries
I shortened several entries in Portal:Current events/2013 June 14 substantially, because I found them way too long. I don't think Portal:Current events should be a dump of text related to events of insufficient wp:Notability to have an own Wikipedia article. On the other hand, if a topic is of enough notability, all those details (such as in this case, the gunman being barefoot) are better written in those individual Wikipedia articles instead, and having a link to those articles in Portal:Current events. Mikael Häggström (talk) 07:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Information about brazilian protests
The brazilian protests are not organized by movimento passe livre. They are grassroots movement of people protesting for many causes. --Marceloml (talk) 21:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It was solved. thanks!--Marceloml (talk) 01:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Sport(s)
Admittedly a minor issue, but should the section be "Sport" or "Sports"? I've seen both on different days. 199.20.68.40 (talk) 15:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Boeing crash SF - number HL 7742
according to video footage, his number shown for e.g. on wing (asian standards) is HL 7742. There is a lot of photos on Wikipedia Commons on this plane see there: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:HL7742_%28aircraft%29

CNN photo, one of that(TV helicopter have better footage) that shows number Please also add data and info(sourced): Type 	777-28EER, First flight date 	25/02/2006, Engines 	2 x PW PW4090, OZ214	ICN->SFO	06/07/13, previous OZ213	SFO->ICN	10/11/12 OZ214	ICN->SFO	08/08/12. Written off confirmation ModeS: 71BF42 Reg: HL7742 Typecode: B772 Type: Boeing 777-28EER Serial number: 29171 registered previous flights on flightradar He probably was assigned to usual route, at least for some time

Yes, the crash is a major breaking news
You can view it on Wikinews here and Asiana Airlines. SarahStierch (talk) 00:14, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Portal:Current events page is fully protected, but the daily sub pages can be edited by anyone. Just click the "edit" link to the right of each date. The top box, "Topics in the news", is shared from the Main Page and is fully protected. The place to discuss its contents is WP:ITN/C. Both the relevant pages have been updated to mention the crash (Portal:Current events/2013 July 6, Template:In the news), so I'll mark this request as no longer needed. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Event on 10 July 2013-Mongolian President Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj was sworn into office in front of public 1st time
Can this event be added to wikinews of today? On 10 July 2013 Mongolian President Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj was sworn into office for his second term as President of Mongolia in front of Chinggis Khaan (also referred as Genghis Khan) monument and public on Sükhbaatar Square a few minutes ago. This is the first time Mongolian presidential oath took place in front of public.

I updated his wikipedia profile Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj with the current event with references. Can it be placed in the news section today? Thank you. --Mongolkhun (talk) 05:05, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Lickspittles, all of us
So we're going along with the tabloids in making a big deal of this birth in what is A Very Ordinary Family that is the centrepiece of symbolic wealth and power through inheritance.

OK ... embarrassing and disappointing. Americans go along with this too? Tony  (talk)  03:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I would like to second this opinion. It is unfair to report so many royal births, deaths, coronations, abdications, but not actual news like royal nipslips, drinking and drug problems, or other personal issues in which people (tabloids) are equally interested. But seriously, the birth of this baby is is never going to affect anyone (to count as news), and knowing about it does not count as encyclopedic knowledge.Xullius (talk) 00:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Doom, despair, oppressive misery
It would be nice if you had some news items that weren't about either a) death (through wars & natural disasters) and b) elections. But mostly, most of the news items you select to highlight on the front page are about death. Yes, there is occasionally a Nobel prize being awarded or a royal baby being born. But I think you should expand your understanding of what is newsworthy to allow stories that don't have a body count.

What about Jeff Bezos buying the Washington Post? Yes, maybe not of big interest in the UK or Australia but it could have an impact on the revival of newspapers. Have some major sports, arts or business news along with the massacres and floods that kill hundreds. I think it's important to know about all of them and you shouldn't judge the importance of a news story by how many people died. Newjerseyliz (talk) 13:05, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Expand your scope!
There's got to be more happening in the world than the strife in the Middle East and the ongoing killings of Islamists and their foes. Alex (talk) 11:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Need a revert
Can someone with access to this page pleas revert this garbage this one person posted? Thanks. Shadow Android (talk) 21:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Anti superstition activist killed in India!!!!
Dear Editors, I am not aware of exact location to put this request. I request experienced editors to help me to put this request at proper place. Dr. Narendra Dablokar who as anti superstition activist, has been killed 12 hours ago in Pune- India. I would request to put the article in wiki news so that the world will get to know about his work and his struggle. Here is his article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Dabholkar Thanks a lot. --Abhijeet Safai (talk) 14:07, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Earthquake in Mexico
Happened this morning. The main quake was measured up to 6.2 and an aftershock up to 5.3. Hitmonchan (talk) 20:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Ongoing conflicts sidebar
What is the threshold for inclusion in the "ongoing conflicts" sidebar please? The current version includes Dissident Irish Republican campaign which isn't even included in the linked article "List of ongoing military conflicts" AndrewRT(Talk) 13:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

How is a 15 year old getting shot, "science"?
Under Friday's Science section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.18.10 (talk) 05:46, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

David Frost
The death of David Frost is unnecessarily noted twice. Alex (talk) 14:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I merged them to 31 August, because the BBC states that he died Saturday night. -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Ronald Coase
Ronald Coase's death is noted on the sidebar, but not under "Recent Deaths". He is an influential nobel laureate in Economics, and given that one of the other current news items is the death of a nobel laureate in literature, it seems likely that this event qualifies for front page, or at the very least inclusion in the "Recent deaths" subtitle. 0x0077BE (talk) 15:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The place to suggest that is In the news/Candidates. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. Thanks. At work at the moment so I didn't really read the whole page to see the details. Thanks. 0x0077BE (talk) 20:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

2013-09-10: Law and crime: 2012 Delhi gang rape case
All four defendants in the 2012 Delhi gang rape case are found guilty of rape and murder.

"All four defendants" isn't quite accurate because, as I recall, one other defendant was previously sentenced as a juvenile. (Also, isn't there a better source for this current event?) --anon. 71.183.134.249 (talk) 09:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Thought transfer through internet
Hi guys. There were news about thought transfer among people through internet by Washington researchers. I didn't find that piece of news on wiki. Does anyone have any additional details??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.68.229.202 (talk) 19:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You only thought you saw that news.... Seriously, I don't know if it would be notable even if it were there.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 20:02, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It was written about in Rajesh_Rao. &mdash; rybec   15:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Casualties in Mexico due to hurricanes Ingrid and Manuel
It must be updated the information placed in the portal about the hurricanes in Mexico, it says "Hurricane Ingrid and Hurricane Manuel kill at least 40 people in Mexico" when the death toll surpases 100. ★ Nacho ★     ★ 16:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Comment
Starting in July 2013, there was no longer sidebar (which you can see in June 2013 . But it's not just a matter of adding that tag. Can we bring back the sidebar? I found it useful.  Liz  Read! Talk! 14:38, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ...and the sidebars at May 2013 and June 2013 were displaying the latest sidebar, not the versions from May/June. I've tried to fix up May 2013 to October 2013 inclusive, following the instructions at Portal:Current events/How to archive the portal. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:21, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Robert Bales
He was sentenced on August 23rd and here it is, September 1st, and he is still listed on the front page as one of the top news items. It seems like current news should be at most two days old. I'm not sure if this is pointy or what but it's been over a week, please replace this news item with something more recent. Liz Read! Talk! 14:12, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Since that top box is part of the main page, the place to make comments is Main Page/Errors. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, John of Reading. Much appreciated. ;-) Liz  Read! Talk! 16:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Random
There's a problem with the random algorithm. Every few clicks it just brings you here, to Random: Current Events. Without a better place to post I thought I'd report it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.31.209.55 (talk) 15:39, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it is more likely that you are sometimes clicking the "Current events" link by mistake. It is immediately above the "Random article" link. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:47, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Creation of new page 16 October
I tried to create a new page for 16 October, entered the right dates and got the wrong date. Page preview was no help. Is there anyway the process can be made more user friendly in the event that the page is not created automatically. Capitalistroadster (talk) 04:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it would have worked if you had left the suggested text alone. The magic text  is caught by the software and would have been replaced by "2013" when you previewed or saved the page, and similarly for the month and day. See Help:Magic words for more keywords like these. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:31, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Galaxy insanely old.
Strapline reads "Astronomers confirm that z8_GND_5296, the most distant galaxy ever found, is 30 billion light-years from Earth." This should be 13 billion, or physics is in for some major upheaval. Gorton k (talk) 09:52, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The lead section at z8_GND_5296 tries to explain this. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:35, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Slight typo
Greetings. Under the Technology heading, there is a typo in one of the links. The link to the group Anonymous links to "Anonymous (group" instead of "Anonymous (group)" which is the intended target. The former redirects to the later, so it isn't a pressing issue, but it may be one that someone with the ability to edit the page may wish to fix.

ihatefile007 (talk) 22:36, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Padlock-bronze-slash2.svg Not done: is not required for edits to  unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. If you click the "edit" link to the right of the heading "November 1, 2013 (Friday)", it'll take you to the appropriate subpage, which is not protected. See also the second bullet of the notice above the edit window when you are editing this page. -- Red rose64 (talk) 00:06, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I have fixed the transcluded page Portal:Current events/2013 November 1.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2013_November_1&diff=580232756&oldid=580179868] PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

RfC: Edward Snowden
I started a request for comment at Talk:Edward Snowden. All views are welcome. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 06:29, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the link to the discussion in the post above.- gadfium 07:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

International Human Rights Council
International human Rights Council, celebrating International Human Rights Day on 10th December, 2013 at Kurukshetra, Harayana with conveying a message of Stop female child killing (bruhn Hatya)

Ihrc777 (talk) 21:58, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per the box at the top of this page, "To suggest new headlines, go to WP:ITN/Candidates". -- Red rose64 (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

NPOV dispute
I'm writing here because I doubt many are watching today's sub-page. I added a blurb about how Russia gave amnesty to two members of Pussy Riot. The three news stories I found about it all mention that the amnesty comes shortly before the Winter Olympics, which will take place in Russia. The BBC story says "The amnesty was widely seen as attempt to avoid controversy overshadowing the Winter Olympics in February, due to be hosted in the Black Sea resort of Sochi." The New York Times says "The members of Pussy Riot, Mr. Khodorkovsky and the Greenpeace activists had all become international symbols for critics of the Russian system, and could well have been the subject of protests and demonstrations during the Winter Olympics, which will be held in the southern Russian city of Sochi in February." The Guardian writes "Lawyers say the amnesty will also enable 30 people arrested in a Greenpeace protest against Arctic oil drilling to avoid trial—removing an irritant in ties with the West before Russia hosts the Winter Olympics in February." Even RT News, while not explicitly drawing a connection to the Olympics, quotes one of the released prisoners as calling the amnesty a "PR stunt". In my opinion, the skepticism about the amnesty is a noteworthy point of view, but another editor disagrees:  &mdash; rybec   19:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * "quotes one of the released prisoners as calling the amnesty a "PR stunt"." = POV pushing - no one cares what any single individuals have for an OPINION - this is an encyclopedia - you are looking for another format - either a forum or a blog - take your pick - as for the "quote"-"unquote" news organizations - these are just more single opinions - and further your addition attempting to tie a note on prisoner release to speculation of Russian government motivation fails both WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTABILITY.--68.231.15.56 (talk) 02:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * She expressed her opinion, and it was reported in the stories about her. That she said it is a fact. Quoting her, or the stories, merely conveys the fact that she expressed herself that way, just as the IP editor reported on the Russian authorities' opinion that the prisoners had committed "hooliganism motivated by religious hatred". Speculation by the news media can be treated in an encyclopedic way; see Republican Party vice presidential candidate selection, 2008 for an example. This is an odd place to be reminding us that "Wikipedia is not a newspaper". &mdash; rybec   06:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Which date does a story go on?
I'm sure the old hands here have discussed this before, but as a relative newbie I'm wondering about the policy for something: For a story like the one about the beating of Tetiana Chornovol, where the event occurred on one day (the 25th) but the news reports are dated the next day (the 26th), where should the story be listed? I had a similar question about the death of Ayyub Khalaf, which occurred on the 18th and was reported on the 19th. (I removed that one from the page for the 20th, which was clearly wrong.) --Alexbook (talk) 18:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * dont remove anything for dates unless you are prepared to repost immediately on the correct date - my understanding is date and time in time zone of event - unless the event is "discovery" date - such as the body of Mr. Smith was found on December 26--68.231.15.56 (talk) 23:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

defragmeter
to find on ubuntu defragmeter which work together with disk usage analyser — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.13.96.198 (talk) 13:01, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * This page isn't a good place for a question like this. Try the Computing reference desk instead. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Could we somehow have been told that the Michael Schumacher story was already here?
The Michael Schumacher ski injury story appears here for December 29. The same story is a currently unsuccessful candidate to appear on In The News (by already being here it is in effect on page 2 of ITN, since you get here by clicking on 'More Current Events' in ITN). Given the lack of any discussion about bringing the two blurbs into line, I suspect I was not alone in not realizing it was already here, information which would have been relevant to the discussion there. Is there any standard way of ensuring that people are not in the dark in such cases? Tlhslobus (talk) 12:15, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The daily sub-pages from Portal:Current events are transcluded at In the news/Candidates. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake. I guess I'm an awfully slow learner. Tlhslobus (talk) 13:10, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem! It would take several lifetimes to learn everything here, I'm sure. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
I am requesting to remove the vandalism from tomorrow's current events. Leoesb1032 (talk) 01:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done by . Note the vandalism was on Portal:Current events/2014 January 3 rather than on Portal:Current events. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:46, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I changed reverted it on Portal:Current events/2014 January 3, but it still was on the main page. Thanks, though for getting rid of it. Leoesb1032 (talk) 01:58, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey there! Thanks for the credit Jack, as with Wikipedia's nature we all have to do our fair share to keep the site free of Vandalism. I didn't exactly know how to format the current events banner properly, however I know that " turns 20!!!!" isn't news so I figured I could just remove it. --+Zack 05:58, 3 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AddZack (talk • contribs)

Protected edit request on 28 January 2014
Hello. I am requesting a simple addition. Could the following hat note please be added to the top of the page: or , which would produce  or  I typed WP:CURRENT in to the search box expecting to be taken to Manual of Style and came to this portal. A quick note at the top here would help. Thanks!

- Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * With 40,000 page views a day, I'd prefer the top of the page to be kept uncluttered. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:08, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * If this were to be done, I'd prefer the first suggestion - the one with, not the one with . -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Given John of Reading's objection, there doesn't seem to be a consensus for this change at the moment. If a consensus to add a hatnote develops after further discussion has taken place, please reactivate the edit protected template. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 13:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Imprecision on the report about Gaza.
On the paragraph about IDF attack and rocket launching from Gaza writed about only 2 rocket but 7 or 6 rocket launched, 2 Intercepted by iron dome and 4 or 5 "falled" in open areas near Be'er Sheva, Lakhish and Bne'i Shimon. The source for the details (media coverge of BBC on piller of defense,down the page) isn't showed on Piller of Defense full neutrality and I recommend to check the information on more website inculde israeli that are Almost always reliable.Please note that apparently not Hamas launched the rockets but the islamic jihad (PIJ) and IDF attacked their destinations.

heres some sources for info about the escalation tonight: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.142.75.8 (talk) 07:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ynetnews- http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4396107,00.html
 * Al Jazeera- http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/06/201362465325234330.html
 * Haartz- http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/rockets-fired-from-gaza-land-in-southern-israel-after-weeks-of-relative-calm-1.531581

QUESTION for contribution
On Current Events page to right of date "edit" is seen. I wrote a small nice article. Used edit. Article never appeared on main page but still appeared on edit page.

Truth in crime statistics 2013

1) did i break any wiki rule trying to add here ?  if everyone added there'd be too much news ?

2) is there somewhere i should look to see my and other articles not appearing on current events page ?

3) should i guess it was augo deleted or someone didn't like the article ?

4) is there any way i can get email update so i don't have to log in to find out ?

(Deletion log); 01:32. . Acroterion (talk | contribs) deleted page Truth in crime statistics 2013 ‎(personal observations on the Fairfax County crime rate aren't appropriate material for an encyclopedia)

I understand removal of my "edits" to other articles. But it appears people are deleting my articles right out of my sandbox so that i can't even access them. That should be illegal i was still working on it (as opposed to simply hiding it from view of others - which also i don't like). Is that what's going on?

Also (if he doesn't delete again). If you see the article it has references / citations to back up what it says. If crime statistics are misreported and i prove it with references that is news just as much as anything observation is. And heorhe zimmerman is news? for like two years straight? That's practically pathological mandating! crazy.

thanks all ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sven nestle2 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Topic Sections
I just added earlier today the thing on snowden being nominated for the Nobel peace prize. Right now it's under "International relations" because that's where all other snowden articles have been. Is there some section I haven't heard about that would fit better? Dmelc9 (talk) 20:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Grammy Awards
On the top right of the home page: daft punk won 5 grammy awards, not 4
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Apparently the engineering award only goes to the engineers, not the band, which is why it is listed as four. Take a look here for the discussion where it was decided. Also, for next time, if you notice a mistake on the main page you will usually get a quicker response by posting at WP:ERRORS. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 10:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Recent deaths
Maximilian Schell died yesterday. As an Academy Award winner and an internationally-renowned actor, I'd say it's worth noting. --95.90.117.69 (talk) 10:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * He's already listed in the sidebar at Portal:Current events. There is a discussion here about adding him to the "recent deaths" section of the top box. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:56, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Seahawks win
Seahawks win Super Bowl 48 in dominating fashion. Dwscomet (talk) 04:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

"Recently" concluded trials
What definition of "recent" is the recently concluded trials section using? I looked through a few of the UK trials and noted that some of them were concluded over two years ago, e.g. Robert Black and Levi Bellfield, whose last court appearances were in 2011. Should this section be weeded? 81.145.162.95 (talk) 13:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Good catch! Looks to me like it badly needs a clean-up too. It has at least a few trials as "ongoing" when they finished years ago; for example, they have Casey Anthony as "recently concluded" when the last action at all in-court was Jan 2013! I don't really follow court cases, so I wouldn't be the best person to do it. -- Connelly90 14:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Bosnia and Herzegovina riots
Please include 2014 Bosnia and Herzegovina social riots into the recent news. The situation is out of control here. I am writing the article with the recent and available sources. --BiH (talk) 15:32, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, but you can be BOLD too. (Lihaas (talk) 17:34, 7 February 2014 (UTC)).

Sochi in the news.
Why there's no word about Sochi or Winter Olympics in the frontpage? Boicott? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.196.229.158 (talk) 20:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Swiss Referendums
Should the Swiss referendum on immigration be added here. Guyb123321 (talk) 18:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Ferdinand Marcos
The Ferdinand Marcos entry has more than one error. A punctuation error, a spacing error, and a caps error. I'm sorry if it's already been mentioned. I honestly haven't checked.  Lighthead  þ 06:52, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Each box at Portal:Current events has its own "edit" link, except for the top box which is shared with the Main page. The usual rule applies: if you see something that can be improved, be bold and edit it. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I didn't realize that. It's not about being BOLD in this case, it's about not paying attention (on my part).  Lighthead  þ 08:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Calendar
Does anyone know how to create the daily calendar pages? created the January pages at the end of December but hasn't edited since. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:29, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

You mean, besides me, obviously. I’ll have to get to it later, J of R. I’m a bit busier than I used to be. In the meantime, perhaps someone would like to volunteer to pitch in, and they can discover how I’ve been supplying it for the last 5 years—happy to answer questions. It could very likely be handled by a bot. But that’s above my pay grade, sorry. (No, I’m not dead yet. But I knew eventually this day might come.)

---Schweiwikist (talk) 18:58, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Five years? That's dedication!
 * Are the design rules written down anywhere? I've disable the automatic deletion of three of the January pages so that they can be looked at: 6, 16 and 31. I wonder if your logic could be re-implemented as a LUA module, so that a single template call could spit out the correct calendar when given a daily purge? Maybe Mr. Stradivarius could comment. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:36, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


 * That is dedication indeed. :) I agree with John; this could be implemented as a Lua module and transcluded directly on Portal:Current events/Calendar, or maybe even directly on Portal:Current events. It should save you a bit of work each day. I'll see if I can work some code up later on. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 23:14, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


 * was just coming here to report that Portal:Current_events/Calendar/2014/32 and onward appeared to be missing, but yes dedication indeed.

I'm afraid the complex template is beyond my skills to get right. EdwardLane (talk) 05:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, it is now up and working at Module:Current events calendar. I suspect that Portal:Current events might need to be purged each day to get the latest version. I'll check back tomorrow, and if that is indeed the case, we can add a purge link to the module. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 00:11, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * That's excellent! I've put back the little bar that used to sit above the calendar: time, date and "purge" link. The current events portal is built from so many subpages that it often needs purging. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow — I’m very gratified. Some of the design notes are here: Portal:Current_events/How_to_archive_the_portal.

I’ll have to investigate LUA asap. Very appropriate that Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ has “set my words to music”, as I’m a musician.

Once upon a time (pre-Feb 2009) the original page had to be updated every 24 hours (check out the month counts section). My original implementation adopted the “featured page” mechanism from the main WP page. More recently I figured out how to clone the code from the 7th day onward. Very appropriate also that this happened around the 5th anniversary of the big switchover!

Thanks again!

---Schweiwikist (talk) 15:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

"Cite error"
Portal:Current events is currently displaying " Cite error: There are tags on this page, but the references will not show without a template (see the help page) " in big red letters at the bottom of the page. Not exactly sure which transcluded template that error is originating from, but it needs to be fixed. —Lowellian (reply) 05:19, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Portal:Current events/2014 March 2 had a reference, and I added a to fix the problem temporarily, but usually I think these subpages use bare urls rather than refs.- gadfium 07:46, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have reformatted the source and removed the reflist -- John of Reading (talk) 08:17, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Trials section in the sidebar
At what stage of a "trial" should it be on ongoing and upcoming? Let's say they're looking for a suspect, is that already even supposed to be added? How about arraignment or indictment? Also, when does a trial conclude? Some jurisdictions have a significant amount of time between the decision and sentencing. – H T  D  03:21, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Non-English sources, again
I see from my recent changes feed that there is an editing dispute at Portal:Current events/2014 March 11 over whether an entry on the current events page can be referenced to a news source that is not written in English. Is it time for this to be discussed again? There was a previous discussion in 2012. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:32, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I understand it has been discussed before but my reasoning is that were on an ENGLISH Wikipedia. Therefore if there is an English news source it takes priority over a foreign language news source. Not saying we should have a big discussion about it, it just seems common sense to me that an English news source would be put on the English Wikipedia over another language. Also the conflict has been resolved to a Washington Post article, that is in English, as the news source. --Newsjunky12 (talk) 12:16, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Question
When do I need to eroll on taking a class on spanish or store management — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.219.14.143 (talk) 19:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This question is misplaced! This is a behind-the-scenes page at Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. You need to find the website of the college you are hoping to study at. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:09, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

March 16th Edits
Hey there, Somebody has made changes to the March 16th date moving around formatting and has edited the writing so you can't actually edit the formatting. I'm stating this here so somebody with more access to the page may be able to edit it that'd be great. --+Zack 14:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AddZack (talk • contribs)
 * Looks like this has been fixed. For future reference, if the header of a daily news page is broken, you can still get to the page via one of the links in the box at the top of this talk page, where it says "The more dynamic subpages..." -- John of Reading (talk) 15:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism
Front page says "dick was sucked" on it. Interesting, seeing how this is a protected page. 70.76.1.58 (talk) 18:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I just fixed it - although this page is protected, all of the content is transcluded from unprotected pages that anyone can edit. K ati e R  (talk) 18:20, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 26 March 2014
213.55.109.213 (talk) 16:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 16:46, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Why is the palestinian story 12.04.14 being re edited/moved?
1 by signing these treaties palestine is inherently and legally declaring itself a state under attack in a conflict. Its not international relations by their definition, and they are the subject of the story. 2 bbc and reuters are legit as it gets. if they chose to mention the sanctions and i chose to mention the sanctions, why is someone invisibly re editing them out of the story. 3 why is someone re editing my work, without explanation anyways? surely some reasoning is needed to change a bbc, reuters sourced story in a highly sensitive issue. 4 the story was announced on the 12.04.14 as far as i can see. 77.101.41.108 (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)77.101.41.108 (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

South Korean ship wrecking
I think the ship accident should be added to the 'In the news' section. I think it is the worst maritime accident occured in 2000's.175.193.32.170 (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That's being discussed at In the news/Candidates. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Overlinking
"The Supreme Court of India recognises a legal third gender for hijra and transgender individuals.", currently on the main page: why do "Supreme Court of India" and "recognises" both link to the same article? Sure, the second adjacent link does go to the section on the actual judgement rather than the top of the article, but I'd have thought readers would appreciate being funnelled just once, and probably to the section. From there, they can scroll to any other part of the SC of India article. Tony  (talk)  06:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Since that top box is shared with the Main Page, you need to post this comment at Talk:Main Page. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:54, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Update source for attack on South Sudanese city of Bor?
The BBC source says that there is no official death toll, but I found a CNN source that lists the official death toll at 48, and multiple other sites have at least 20+ confirmed deaths. Someone want to change the source? Wasn't sure if I should do it, since the CNN source was a little short. Here's the source I'm talking about: http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/africa/south-sudan-un-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 This is the current one: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27074635  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenophilious (talk • contribs) 16:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

protests in Ukraine
Why protests in Ukraine regulates the man who turned wiki in FOX propaganda and write total nonsense?

All the media reports that on protests were 20000 people and hi says 200 and insult them

Do you really want to wiki become ridiculous as FOX News or some poor man from Eastern Europe abused wiki without your knowledge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.93.233 (talk) 03:09, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Above IP user has been making some disruptive edits and changing sources to push some imaginary POV. I guess he's taking his act here now...--Львівське (говорити) 04:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


 * It's important to ignore the incredibly poor English skills being demonstrated. 122.1.124.211 (talk) 03:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * @122.1.124.211 - You shouldn't point out things such as that on talk pages; that editor was being disruptive, but it is still rather unkind of you to point out things such as that. I am pretty sure that this is outlined in some policy somewhere, but I have not yet checked. Dustin  ( talk ) 17:11, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 8 May 2014
THe portal has been vandalized and the current day's news is missing.Loftwyr (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Loftwyr (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I fixed it (though it looks like it stayed there for about an hour!). It wasn't the main portal page, but the May 8 page that was vandalized (which is unprotected); it was a bit trickier to get to, since the vandal (wisely?) removed the header! 92.239.95.125 (talk) 18:13, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for drawing attention to this. For next time, note that there are extra links to each day's news at the top of this talk page, so even if a box is blanked or damaged it can still be edited from there. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Weekend updates/or lack thereof
I find it a sad state of affairs that in the age of '24/7 news cycles'[which aren't anymore] the current event section goes flat on weekends. There is no excuse other than plain laziness to kick the can. Our media [read news and weather information services] were far more on top of their game in bringing us 'instant/embedded' news and weather forecasting accurate out past seven days! Somewhere ratings, and entertainment, and thrift have left weekends an information wasteland. If the Second Coming, Alien Contact, or World War III happens Saturday night... don't expect to hear about it until the following Monday. And I'm quite disappointed that Wikipedia current event editors have fallen into the same pattern. It is disgusting that over the past 15 years as more people have access to information the more trivially it is driven. Feed the lemming masses trending nonsense while the world as we know it circles the drain. Doyna Yar (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Rupert Loewenstein?
There is news that Rupert Loewenstein, former manager of The Rolling Stones, has died. The problem is, he has no article and even the Rolling Stones article does not mention him. Any ideas why?  It Is Me Here  t /  c  14:20, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Bowe Bergdahl?
Bowe Bergdahl was released from Taliban captivity today. I think this should be on the Current Events portal ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeyquism (talk • contribs) 19:08, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
 * This was added to the entry for 31 May about an hour before you requested it.- gadfium 02:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Content Displayed in Current Events
Why are we getting so much more sports coverage now? I understand that the "elections" (cough, cough) are important, but really, the Indy 500 and other sports tournaments happen once a year. Does Wikipedia really need to provide the same news coverage as the mainstream? Allen750 (talk) 21:24, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Editors are volunteers, and they add items according to their own ideas of what is important. While trivia is not wanted here, there is substantial leeway given for good-faith edits. You are welcome to add balance by adding news items yourself, with suitable sources.- gadfium 02:30, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the items "In the News" section, they're suggested at WP:ITN/C. Almost all sporting events posted there come from the WP:ITNR list. – H T  D  12:56, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

i agered04:03, 25 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.209.106 (talk)

EDIT FOR PORTAL CURRENT EVENTS
The news summary reads "Israel launches an offensive on Gaza amidst rising tensions following the killing of Israeli teenagers in June." This is misleading and incorrect, Israel did not do any offensive in response to the kidnappings. The current operation is in response to rocket fire which has been occurring for the past 3 weeks and has intensified earlier this week. It should read "Israel launches an offensive on Gaza in response to nearly three weeks of rocket fire into Israel." The current headline suggests Israel is attacking in response to the three teens which were kidnapped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.89.247.214 (talk) 13:35, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The top box at Portal:Current events is shared with the Main Page, so the place to discuss it is Talk:Main Page. There's a long discussion there already. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:11, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

heavy rain in odisha
the heavy rain in odisha destroed many lifes in viilage and rural areas in odisha. mostly odia people they refer to cultivation but this heavy rain have destroyed the life of those people.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smruti ranjan samal (talk • contribs) 05:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

First female fields medalist
Maryam Mirzakhani has become the first fields medalist ever. Can you add it to the news section on the first page? Drako (talk) 17:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Nominations for the "In the News" section are made at WP:ITN/Candidates, not here.- gadfium 21:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Is Iraq war denial the new Holocaust denial?
Because according to In the News it's just not happening. After for what seemed like forever insisting the death of Robin Williams was far more important than much of the world being at war with the Islamic State, the Iraq insurgency is briefly placed on In the News, then inexplicably removed again. I can assure you far more people are dying in that conflict than in Robin Williams' suicide. Ribbet32 (talk) 20:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's listed under "Ongoing events" as U.S. intervention in Iraq, and in some of the daily sections. This is not the place to discuss whether it should be readded to In the news "Ongoing events" (which does not appear on this page), but you can find discussion at Wikipedia talk:In the news.- gadfium 23:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

September 10 messed up
I see the whole template of September 10 is replaced with rubbish, but I can't see the exact location of this. Anyone who knows how to solve it? Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:15, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I see it is already corrected. Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:16, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sometimes one of the daily news boxes gets damaged so badly that it doesn't have an "edit" link any more. One way to recover from that is to use the links in the beige box at the top of this talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:58, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok. Still I'm a bit confused about where this text was entered. I don't see any trace of it in the edit history of Portal:Current events/2014 September 10, and it's not the first time I see this. Mikael Häggström (talk) 07:03, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the material, but some admins who saw it decided that it should be completely hidden, even from the history. Here are the log entries: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Portal%3ACurrent+events%2F2014+September+10 log]. And yes, this can be confusing to the rest of us. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, that explains it. Thanks! Mikael Häggström (talk) 13:28, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Return "War in Donbass" back to the front page
I think we should put War in Donbass back in the "Ongoing events" box in the frontpage. The link was removed after signing the ceasefire. However, if you look at the timeline Timeline of the war in Donbass, similar amount of people are dying per day than as before the "ceasefire". Separatists don't seem to be accepting the ceasefire agreement. NATO SACEUR says that the ceasefire is "cease-fire in name only", stating that "the number of events, and the number of rounds fired and the artillery used across the past few days match some of the pre-ceasefire levels". As far as I see it the conflict is ongoing, and as such it should get more coverage as it's an ongoing event, and it is quite significant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.140.133.57 (talk) 08:19, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * This is the wrong place to discuss front page content. WP:ITN/C or Wikipedia talk:In the news are the appropriate pages.- gadfium 09:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Recent Deaths Elaine Lee
September 19:link should be to Elaine Lee (actress), not Elaine LeeBogger (talk) 09:28, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thanks.- gadfium 09:34, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 September 2014
hi sir i want to access wiki portal

DHARMENDRA NIRBHAN (talk) 13:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:38, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Missing current event
Catalan self-determination referendum, 2014 could -also- be at the Topics in the News. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 11:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Proposals for items in that section are made at WP:ITN/C, not here. The appropriate time to nominate it is when a result is known and the article is appropriately updated. Information about the progression of the referendum can be added to the day pages of this portal by any editor, with suitable sources linked.- gadfium 19:33, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Are they to build ann astronomy laboraty in Isnello? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.106.76.246 (talk) 05:04, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Link not working
The AP link under the health section for October 10th returns a 404 error (tested in Chrome, Firefox, and IE). The link should be replaced with a working one. I suggest replacing with this: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136161/1/roadmapupdate10Oct14_eng.pdf?ua=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.48.105 (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * (After edit conflict) Sorry, I hadn't noticed that my reply here hadn't been saved; I replaced the link with one I found at the BBC. Have you spotted that each day's news has its own "edit" link at the right? Although the page as a whole is protected, you should be able to edit each day's news. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Clacton by-election, 2014
Please bear with me on this one. Following a recent dispute over the inclusion of content relating to the above matter, I'm seeking consensus on whether or not we should mention the by-election, which occurred in the UK on Thursday 9 October 2014, on the appropriate current events page. The poll saw the election of Douglas Carswell, who became the first candidate from the United Kingdom Independence Party to win a seat in the UK Parliament, receiving 60 percent of the vote. Carswell had switched allegiance from the Conservatives to UKIP a few weeks earlier and resigned his seat, triggering the by-election. UKIP are an anti-EU, anti-immigration party, which were considered to be on the fringe of politics until fairly recently, but have gained in popularity at the expense of the UK's three mainstream political parties, something that could have far-reaching consequences for Britain and countries beyond its shores. At the same time as the Clacton by-election was taking place, another by-election in Heywood and Middleton saw a Labour Party candidate hold onto a safe seat with a tenth of the previous majority after losing votes to UKIP, which ran a close second.

Information about these events was added by me to the page for 9 October, but later removed by another editor, who objected to its inclusion on the grounds that the events were not significant enough for inclusion in Current events. This decision was overturned by Capitalistroadster, but their edit quickly reverted for the same reason. Another addition of it by Everyking was also reverted. I then restored the original information the following day, and added the result of the by-elections to 10 October, highlighting its significance. Again the information was removed, for both days (see this and this). When I challenged this, the editor claimed that there was no international coverage of the elections, but I quickly discovered several articles about it in newspapers as diverse as The New Zealand Herald, Washington Post and The Australian (there is no link to the latter because the information is behind a paywall). After restoring the entries with these sources, things then took a rather bizarre turn when the information was removed again, with the editor saying that it was not notable because we had no coverage of an incident in Pakistan that had resulted in several deaths, that two of the sources were only reporting the elections because they were based in "Commonwealth Realms" reporting on events in the mother country, and that the Washington Post was no good either because he/she hadn't been able to find it personally (see this, this and this).

I believe the information to be notable, and feel I have demonstrated it to be so. I can provide other international references if required, but in order to resolve this matter without further drama, I am seeking to gain consensus on whether or not we should cover this topic. A discussion on the 9 October talk page would suggest the criteria have been met, but do others think these two by-elections are notable enough for here? I understand there's also a wider issue that we apparently have no guidelines for this page, but that's for another discussion. There is, however, a history of inclusion of by-elections from a number of countries, such as UK, Ireland, New Zealand and United States (though I believe they are called special elections there)., and this appears to have gone unchallenged until now. Consequently the matter needs to be put to bed, as it were, to avoid future such disagreements. The proposed entries are as follows:

9 October 2014


 * Voters go to the polls for by-elections in the UK Parliament constituencies of Clacton and Heywood and Middleton. (BBC) (Washington Post)

10 October 2014


 * Douglas Carswell wins the Clacton by-election as a UK Independence Party candidate, having defected to them from the Conservatives, and giving UKIP its first elected Member of the UK Parliament. Liz McInnes narrowly wins the Heywood and Middleton by-election for Labour, but with a significantly reduced majority after UKIP picked up votes from Labour and the Conservatives. (BBC) (New Zealand Herald) (Washington Post)

Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 15:25, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * That is good. In my view, an instance where a new party wins its first seat in a parliament and xomes reasonably close to winning another is notable. Other examples of where a byelection is notable is where it changes the balance of power in the legislature or there is a significant swing against a party in power. By-elections have been significant in Australian politics on a number of occasions such as Bass (1975), Canberra (1995) or Flinders (1982).


 * We can do away with listing most of the by-elections (special elections) in those other countries as well. The Current Events page could stand to be a bit less Anglocentric in that regard.  Except for the rare case where the election leads to a fundamental shift in power within the national legislative body – which would subsequently lead to substantial international news coverage – there doesn't seem to be a need for an entry for these one-off election happenings.


 * As for Commonwealth realms (I didn't make up that term, so there's no need to put it in quotes), editors should be aware that countries which have the British monarch as their head of state will also harbor a degree of news bias towards events in the United Kingdom over the rest of the world. Those who are familiar with UK politics should readily understand this.


 * Finally, my whole point in mentioning the Pakistan poisoning story was to question the criteria which a casual news reader would use to choose a story to include on Current Events page. I could have just as easily mentioned the upcoming selection of the new Samsung chairman in order to highlight the disjointed focus on the Clacton election as the story appears on the Washington Post portal. Farolif (talk) 17:59, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This is also being reported by China Daily, Der Spiegel and Le Monde, newspapers from three non-"Commonwealth Realms". I'm sure there's a whole debate to be had on whether or not "Commonwealth Realms" are biassed towards the UK; actually you'd probably find their international news coverage to be quite broad, but your arguments are becoming more inventive. This is Paul (talk) 18:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Buenos Aires Herald
 * The Japan Times
 * Think that proves this had international coverage. This is Paul (talk) 19:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The horse walking into the Cheshire police station also received international coverage.
 * BBC News
 * NY Daily News
 * Irish Examiner
 * Al-Arabiya
 * Based on that criteria, should we add this story to Current Events? Farolif (talk) 23:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Now you're just being silly. This example is nothing but a "man bites dog" story, and I can't think of anywhere in Wikipedia we'd mention it, let alone here. The Pakistan argument does at least have some merit, although the fact it's not mentioned as a news story isn't a valid reason to exclude other content. This is Paul (talk) 12:05, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I was being "silly" as a way to make a point, and it's much the same point I have set out on from the start: Anyone, with the aid of search engines, can find a story that is reported on some level by news organizations across the globe. The question is what qualifies the story to be included on Current Events. A story that makes top news in one country but is buried in the 'world' section of another country's publications should be more carefully evaluated for being listed here.
 * BTW - This was also my purpose in pointing out the Pakistan item in the first place - a news story which I was not even aware of until I visited Washington Post's site as a casual reader and - without using the search bar - tried to locate the Clacton article through normal browsing. I was only expressing how unusual I thought it would be for a person who used Washington Post as a primary news source to determine the Clacton election to be of greater significance than other headlines they would encounter in the process. Farolif (talk) 21:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * What this would seem to be is a classic case of pettifoggery through the use of straw man arguments to push a particular point of view. 86.140.110.13 (talk) 12:30, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

News Article Keeps Being Removed
I have repeatedly posted the news article on Nov 1 2014 and Oct 31 2014 referring to a rocket being fired into southern israel, violating the ceasefire from Aug 26th, and the residents requesting military intervention. As this could lead to further hostilities in conflict, it is important to mention. Each time it keeps being removed by the same person. The wording is not biased or subjective and plainly states the facts, the article is referenced to times of israel and yahoo news via associated free press. Eframgoldberg (talk) 20:59, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It is only violating the ceasefire if it's either proven that one of the parties to the ceasefire initiated the launch or same claims responsibility. Meanwhile, there are no damages or injuries caused by the rocket (indeed, it took some time for IDF to confirm that the rocket actually landed in Israeli territory), and there is no retaliation from Israel now over a day after the incident, so your concern of further hostilities appears moot. Regarding the call for military intervention, it would seem that inflating the importance of stories such as this by posting them on WP's Current Events page would function as a self-fulfilling prophecy in that regard. Farolif (talk) 22:22, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * In response Israel has closed the border crossing into Gaza, and on top of the Rafah border crossing that was closed by Egypt, Gaza is closed off for now, so it is important. Furthermore if you look back at Operation Protective Edge, there were rockets being fired into Israel for much of March-June which was not being covered because maybe no one wanted to "inflate the importance of a story"? It turns out that after the IDF announced that the reason for Operation Protective edge was to stop rocket fire into Israel, it got turned into a media war with the kidnapping of 3 Israeli teens being called the cause when at the time Israel did not announce Hamas was responsible, and then at the end Hamas took responsibility.  As a matter of act, Wikipedia's own page lists the kidnapping as the reason for Operation Protective Edge.  So maybe if these news items were better covered, people could get a more reliable timeline of events.  Furthermore I can guarantee you that if an Israeli person launched an attack into Gaza, even if no one died, that it would be on news headlines.

The article and news headline itself does not violate any policy and it is relevant to the ongoing conflict between Israel-Gaza in which both sides have tried to manipulate media to their advantage, which is why objective reporting is even more important. In follow up Hamas arrested 5 individuals responsible for firing the rocket into Israel. As Hamas is the elected leadership of Gaza, they are a priori responsible for attacks from Gaza. By your logic, the government of Gaza is not responsible for armed attacks by it's population on a neighbooring state, so either a. Hamas has no control over the people of Gaza in which case they are not valid representatives of the people and this is considered a terrorist attack, or B. as acting government they are responsible and it is a breach of the cease fire. Regardless of the politics/background behind the event, it is still important. Nuances such as number of injured/destruction of property, retaliation, or claimed of responsibility are not requirements for having a news article posted. Relevance to current events, objective reporting, and unbiased headlines are requirements. Eframgoldberg (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * As far as a "self fulfilling prophecy", there is no "ends justify the means" when reporting news. One does not wait and see if a situation escalates before going back and deciding what was news and what was not.  People would never be able to form opinions regarding the timeline of events.  For example this past week, there was a news headlines about Nato intercepting Russian Jets over the Baltic Sea, and several about Sweden's Russian sumbarine hunt.  Should we wait and see if a conflict breaks out before going back and saying this was relevant and should have been posted? I think it is better people have access to articles such as these so they can form their own opinions especially with all the finger pointing and media manipulation that has become standard procedure in modern conflicts. Eframgoldberg (talk) 17:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Depth of page headers
[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/News_Browser&diff=632187731&oldid=513903493 This edit] to Portal:Current events/News Browser has added another inch or two to the total depth of the headers at the top of the page. I'm not convinced; I think it is more important that readers should be able to see the current day's news box without having to scroll. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * OK I've decided to undo it, that's fine. Thanks for raising your concerns, and also for looking after things a lot. I think personally that the trouble is that those buttons are a bit on the ugly side, a softer shade of green or whatever would have improved things. If there was some better way of coding them I think it would be advantageous, mainly regarding their color shade.


 * They use Template:Clickable button 2 which uses Module:Clickable_button_2. It's not editable without permission, but I think you can. What would be cool is if there was pastel shades and perhaps a better font. It wouldn't have to be added to current events, would just look better on the other portal pages.--Mrjulesd (talk)  08:52, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for undoing your change. Yes, I have the user right to edit the module, but since I don't know LUA coding that would be a very bad idea! I suggest you start a thread at Template talk:Clickable button 2. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * . Thanks. I don't Lua either, so it would be a hack job! If you see any responses I would like it if you pinged me. --Mrjulesd (talk)  09:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Guidelines for Labels
Can we discuss and reach a consensus please on the guidelines for certain adjectives. Depending on the conflict, the use of certain adjectives might appear as a political bias, I have tried to review past current events but there is an inconsistency to many of the labels. Some instances I can think of off the top of my head are: whether perpetrators of attacks are termed militants, terrorists, operatives, etc.? should incidences be called attacks, terrorist attacks, aggression, or other terms? delineation between protesters and rioters? how specific should victims be described, i.e. gender, age, religion, etc? the use of the terms "alleged", suspect, and perpetrator? I think we can avoid lots of political debate if we can have guidelines for terms such as these that we can consistently follow. Eframgoldberg (talk) 23:47, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

The U.S. 2014 mid-term elections are over - this has stayed too long as a featured In The News article
SO much more worthy recent news items - let's please get this off there and more important stories back into the current events stuff. Thanks.HammerFilmFan (talk) 21:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This talk page doesn't deal with the ITN pane. To suggest stories which can update that section, please go to WP:ITN/C.- gadfium 02:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Classification of cyber attacks
Hello to all current events posters and editors. I would like to raise a question to you all. In the 21st century cyber attacks are becoming more and more frequent on both countries and companies. Now on the Jan 1 current events page someone has put a cyber attack on Chick-fil-a under the "Armed conflicts and attacks" section. I was debating weather to move it to the "Business and economy" section but I couldn't bring myself to do it yet. So my question is, should we classify cyber attacks on companies under the "Armed conflicts and attacks" section or should we only put cyber attacks against countries in that section? Should we include cyber attacks on that section at all? I look forward to the response and opinions of everyone why would like to answer. For now I will leave that story under that section but in a way I don't think it should be there. --Newsjunky12 (talk) 02:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

X Factor? Big Brother?
Special:Contributions/109.153.1.43 is putting a lot of effort into adding X Factor and I'm A Celebrity news items into the daily sub-pages. The instructions say that stories "should be of international interest". Now, I know I'm biased, since I have no interest in these shows. Second opinion, anyone? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:30, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * These have all been removed by myself and another. Note to self: if I'd had the courage to act at once, the project's spell-checkers and disambiguators would not have wasted time fixing these news items. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

"GAS" possible:
One of the events on Jan 29 was:


 * A ---> gas <--- tanker truck explodes near the loading dock of a maternity and children's hospital in Mexico City, collapsing much of the hospital with at least seven deaths and 54 people injured, 22 of which are children. (AP)

No search on the internet has which GAS specified and thus possible gases for a hospital are:

gasoline

natural gas = methane = sulfur additive smell

propane

liquid oxygen = no smell and no possible use in a kitchen

liquid nitrogen = no smell and no possible use in a kitchen

--70.190.111.213 (talk) 18:30, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * one story says "piping gas to kitchen" = probably natural gas - also some said they still "smelled gas" which would be more likely to be methane thus I think the gas in question is natural gas = methane.--70.190.111.213 (talk) 18:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * propane--70.190.111.213 (talk) 21:32, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 3 March 2015Help
Biography of: author Ryan Scoville  for book club discussion. Thank you. phyllissublett@att.net

2602:306:335D:4C40:6DDA:3FBB:5728:1CE6 (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Duke-Wisconsin Date
The game was played on April 6, not April 7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.122.10 (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see beneath debate between myself and Thaddeus B on the 7 April talk page which I have copied here because the topic of timing is of general interest. Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I have removed Duke Blue Devils winning national championship from today several times. It happened on Monday Eastern Daylight Time in the United States. What day it was elsewhere in the world is irrelevant just as it is for every other story today and every day. Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:16, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken. Wikipedia uses one and only one clock - UTC time.  This is the time stamp shown in your signature and the time the main page changes based on, for example, and is how we have always done things.  If we used a different clock for each item on this list, that would be quite confusing when items didn't have a "local time" because they are of general interest - some users would expect to find the item on one day and others on another.
 * Here, the game started at about 1am UTC on April 7 and concluded at about 3:30am. Local time is not relevant. --ThaddeusB (talk) 00:27, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I haven't been involved with Portal:Current events for a long time, but my understanding has always been that events are posted to the portal on the date they occurred local time, rather than the date they occurred in UTC. While items on ITN are generally ordered by UTC to be consistent, this generally isn't followed here or anywhere else on Wikipedia. When one visibly sees a date associated with the event, like here, it should be the date of the event, local time, not UTC. No one would ever say that TWA Flight 800 crashed on July 18, 1996; no, it happened on July 17, and it's rightfully included in Selected anniversaries/July 17. Same convention ought to, and, I believe, does, apply here. --  tariq abjotu  04:42, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * My understanding/experience has always been to use UTC time for current events. However, I could have been "doing it wrong" for years and no one noticed or cared until now. :) --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Our article on the game shows it has haven't been played on 6 April ie local time see 2015 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship Game as do all of the reliable sources. Showing it has having been played on the 7th would just confuse people. I always try to have it as the time the event occurred locally not UTC. It was not played in London but it in the US. This discussion should now be taken to the current events talk page and to policy boards more generally. Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC)