Portal talk:Current events/Archive 9

HRM Caesar Saint Augustine de Buonaparte Emperor of United States & candidate for president is not on your list of 2016 candidates
your list of presidential candidates is not complete check the FEDERAL ELECTION COMMITTEE FOR UPDATES AS TO WHO IN RUNNING IN ALL PARTIES. YOURS SINCERELY HIS MAJESTY.
 * Perhaps you should post at Talk:United States third party and independent presidential candidates, 2016. This page does not contain a list of candidates.- gadfium 01:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Editing delay / under review?
I fixed a typo in regards to the capture of a Mexican Gulf Cartel local boss "El Gafe" in Reynosa. The previous "El Gate" was wrong. However, after I save the page and reload, the typo still remains. Are the edits under review? I've haven't seen this wikipedia behavior before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.196.131 (talk) 14:52, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You edited Portal:Current events/2015 April 17, one of the pages which get built into the main Portal:Current events page. Sometimes the behind-the-scenes software doesn't realise that the main page has to be rebuilt, or is slow to get round to it. You can force the update by "purging" the page. There is a little "purge" link just above the calendar at the right of Portal:Current events. I've used this link, and your change is now displayed properly. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for purging and the info about it. Jeois (talk) 15:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Desperately seeking Royalty officials in Leeds
Counting Houses and Borough buildings are supposedly built for communicating with. I would like to know where I can find my official accountant Jo Wilkinson who has supported me since god knows when. Need to get in touch as soon as possible to meeting and appraisal. sorry for being a pain, I've been chasing you in no attempt of any discussions. Please call me on — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.4.189 (talk) 10:00, 27 April 2015
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Portal:Current events. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Current Event Length
Is there a reason the length of current event coverage continues to get longer and longer?

The reason why I found this current event portal so valuable was in being concise and providing a one line overview or sampling of what is happening globally. And then for those topics of interest there are the corresponding full length Wikipedia pages and links to news coverage. But can we please keep the paragraphs in the individual Wikipedia pages and out of the current events page. There is a lot of value in being concise! And that is being lost.

For example: ''US Treasury deputy inspector general for tax administration Timothy Camus testifies before the Senate Finance Committee that, since 2013, criminals pretending to be IRS tax agents contacted more than 366,000 people with harassing phone calls demanding payments and threatening prosecution and incarceration in the largest scam of its kind in the history of the agency. More than 3,000 people were duped out of a total of $15.5 million, with victims in almost every state. Federal investigators believe there is more than one group of perpetrators, including some overseas. Currently, two people in Florida have been arrested, accused of being part of a scam that involved people in call centers in India contacting U.S. taxpayers. Immigrants were the primary target early on. The callers can manipulate caller ID to make it look like they are calling from an IRS phone number. They might even know the last four digits of the taxpayer's Social Security number. (AP)''

Could be trimmed down to: "Fake IRS agents target more than 366,000 in huge tax scam" just as AP summed it up in their title.

''US state of California Judge Thomas M. Goethals recuses the Orange County district attorney's office from the case of a convicted mass killer, 45-year-old former tugboat operator Scott Dekraai, who has already pleaded guilty to killing his ex-wife and seven others during the October 12, 2011 shooting rampage at a Seal Beach hair salon and turns over further prosecution of the case to the California attorney general's office after finding that sheriff's deputies had lied on the witness stand or withheld information about the misuse of jailhouse informants utilized to gather evidence for prosecutors. The ruling deals a blow to prosecutors' efforts to impose the death penalty. Defense attorneys also wanted the possibility of the death penalty thrown out but the judge refused. (AP)''

Could be summed up as: "Judge removes DA's office from California mass murder case of Scott Dekraai" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.124.240 (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Several contributors have recently been adding valid but very verbose entries. Don't hesitate to be bold and reword them. Isa (talk) 17:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I have started trimming them but it appears we have some sort of new medical or health expert that likes to put in depth paragraphs. Its interesting findings, but the summaries are bit extensive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.124.240 (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Bug
I tried the "errors" talk page, but it's broken. There's a bug/troll hack that replaced the letter l with a w. Please fix. Thanks. 2602:306:30BA:28A0:61CB:5A1C:2123:63BC (talk) 04:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing this. Can you give an example of a page and sentence that has this problem? Are you seeing it throughout Wikipedia or just on one page? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:14, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Intergen crap
Someone has put a huge entry above the main current events about some energy company. I tried to remove it but I can seem to edit that part of the page and I tried to revert the edit using the page history but it wasn't there. I think an admin needs to step in here. Elspooky (talk) 05:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone had damaged today's sub-page, Portal:Current events/2015 May 25, which is not protected. It's been fixed. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Filtered Search/View
It is exciting to see the growing level of quality content in the current event section. But as this continues to grow I think it would be very valuable to have the option to have a filtered search or filtered view of the content.

For example for me the "Business and economy" and "International relations" sections are critical for what I do, and I want to make sure I have at least seen those headlines on a daily basis. But some of the other sections such as Sports and Science are things that I find interesting, but really only need to scan through on a weekly basis. The content is already subdivided by section, how difficult would it be to develop in a sort feature?

TaZa (talk) 16:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of have some sort of sort feature, but I am not sure how difficult such an implementation would be, so I can't really say whether or not this idea is practical. Dustin  ( talk ) 16:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Editing
How do I get to edit this page?--Sirmagoo (talk) 12:56, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Although most of the page is protected from editing, each day's news has its own "edit" link to the right of the date. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Mehfil-E-Cineyatra ek bahurangi shaam
Mehil-e-cineyatra ek bahurangi shaam held on 24th May of 2015 at S.K.M. Hall, Patna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.47.219.95 (talk) 08:16, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 June 2015
Hi there. I'm using this page in my user space for a summary page I created. Which has the side-effect of including my user page in the 2015 category.

I'd like to do this without my user page being included in those categories, this can be done by wrapping the.

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 08:28, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Your user space page is not suitable for transclusion into this page.- gadfium 09:42, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you're misunderstanding what I'm asking for. I'm not asking for my user page to be transcluded into this page. I'm asking for an otherwise harmless edit to be done to this page so that my user-space transclusion of it doesn't impact the category system. That's all.
 * Adding the tags I'm asking for has no negative impact on this page, since nothing else transcludes it, and allows me to maintain my summary page in my user-space without having it be in categories like Category:2015.
 * I think this is a reasonable edit to make, so I'm re-opening the request. For what it's worth I'm using my user-space page as a sort of browser homepage for what's going on in the world, but I want something more specific than the main page and with more information the current events portal all by itself. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 09:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As you probably realise portals are not really designed for transclusion, but I've made the change as it will do no harm. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:48, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 10:27, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Bratislava protest
It is true, that in Bratislava, thousands of people rallied against EU plan on immigrants, but only a few of them were detained - certainly, thousands of people weren´t detained as it is written here!! --Laddy (talk) 21:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've reworded it. You are welcome to make such changes yourself in future; there's an edit link for each day's events.- gadfium 01:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Minor sports events
This page has relatively minor sports events included (not on the scale of the Olympics) This seems inappropriate to me, and will stop me from using this page to gain information about current events. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.3.175.209 (talk) 07:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

2015 Taiwan water park explosion
I am not suggesting this needs to go on the Main page, and I am not as familiar with the placement of current events at Wikipedia, but I created 2015 Taiwan water park explosion if others wish to contribute and/or incorporate the link into the current events portal. Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * To suggest an item for the "In the news" box on the Main page, please go to WP:ITN/C and follow the instructions at "How to nominate an item". -- John of Reading (talk) 21:47, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

University of Kenya attack, March of 2015
What was the exact date of the attack which killed 147 students. I am thinking of doing a memorial service in Nairobi next year on that date. The attack occurred the week following my departure from Nairobi this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC2F:8A30:ADAB:95A:A92A:D6A4 (talk) 15:36, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you are referring to the Garissa University College attack, which was on 2 April 2015. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

July 2, 2015
Last two items in Health and Medicine are lengthy and confusing. Rewording, research, etc. needed. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 22:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

July 15, 2015
Two statements of the SAME fact regarding the overnight development in Greece. I arbitrarily deleted one of them.--Christofurio (talk) 10:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Referencing

 * I have started using the same referencing system as for the rest of the site. Let me know what you think. Capitalistroadster (talk) 03:46, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Dan and Phil
I invite other editors to watchlist Portal:Current events/2009 October 19, as it is being targeted by fans of Dan and Phil. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect wikilink
The first bulleted item in 11 August 'Disasters and accidents' features a link to a disambiguation page for "Buk" when it should really point to BUK. Careful With That Axe, Eugene Hello...  08:05, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * - but note that each day's news box is not protected and has its own "edit" link, so you could have made the edit yourself. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:35, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Should day pages use bold headers?
Should the pages Portal:Current events/Year Month Day use bold headers (leading semicolon in wikitext) to divide events by topic? Jackninja5 occasionally adds bold headers. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, certainly if there are more than eight (ish) bullet points. A page such as Portal:Current events/2015 July 16 is easier to read than, say, Portal:Current events/2009 July 16 ([//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2009_July_16&oldid=652234647 this version]). -- John of Reading (talk) 05:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes. Although I would tend not to bother if most of the headers end up with only have one event, I'd be okay if others recommend this is always done regardless of the number of events in the name of consistency.  --A D Monroe III (talk) 16:19, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

can we stop using paynews sites (wsj, nyt, etc..) for events references?
this is a free encyclopedia people — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.170.35.23 (talk) 03:57, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I sympathize, (NYT used to be a free signup), but see WP:PAYWALL. It's not going to happen.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 19:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Also WP:RSC for the specific defense. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 13:56, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

August 27, 2015
I ended up accidentally in an edit war. I wanted to maintain the Labor Board headline as it was at the end of the day when it seemed sensible, but another anonymous user has now days later insisted with never any explanation to repeatedly revert it to an older version, and I was not the first to believe it was better phrased this way. I have not done further reverts so as not to actually engage in an edit war, but now the headline is in disrepair. I would like to have settled the conflict one on one with that other user but there has not been any communication from their end. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 19:23, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * After the failure of my last attempt to clean up this headline after another user's compromise I supported also failed, I do not want to continue cluttering up the history messily trying to keep it afloat. So here below is what I believed the best compromise version of the headline to be.


 * The Democratic-controlled U.S. National Labor Relations Board, rules 3–2 in the Browning-Ferris case to expand the standard of joint employer when determining if a parent company shares responsibility for workers hired by a subcontractor or franchisee. The Republican-controlled US Congress responded to arguments from businesses such as the International Franchise Association by adding a NLRB-related rider to the budget to block implementation of this latest ruling. Browning-Ferris can appeal the decision to a federal appeal court. The ruling, if uncontested, may affect unionization and pay efforts at McDonald's franchises. (Wall Street Journal) (International Business Times), (Forbes) (Chicago Tribune) (Washington Post)
 * I feel like the record speaks for itself on the alternatives as posted by the other user. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 14:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Most changes in place except for Obama admin citation. National Review article originally used the same language but has now changed it http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423261/nlrb-franchise-decision RaqiwasSushi (talk) 23:17, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Your attempt there was not my preferred version, but I had been happy to let it stand for the sake of a consensus compromise. It does not seem like 68.231.26.111 is interested in compromise as s/he still silently subverted your edit with his/her need to blame the Obama administration. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 11:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Until a consensus can be reached here is the final version I will be using in periodic correction--


 * The Democratic-controlled U.S. National Labor Relations Board, rules 3–2 in the Browning-Ferris case to expand the standard of joint employer for determining if a parent company shares responsibility for workers hired by a subcontractor or franchisee. The Republican-controlled US Congress responded to arguments from businesses such as the International Franchise Association by adding a NLRB-related rider to the budget to block implementation of this latest ruling. Browning-Ferris can appeal the decision to a federal court of appeals. The ruling may affect unionization and pay efforts at McDonald's franchises. (Wall Street Journal) (International Business Times), (Forbes) (Chicago Tribune) (Washington Post)
 * I'm sorry that this ended up so bizarrely contentious and that I am repeatedly still editing it in an attempt to fix it, though I try to leave these edits infrequent so as to not overly clutter the history for others trying to make sense of what happened. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * What I really want at this point is a Request for Comment. I looked into the process, but I don't yet feel familiar with wikicode sufficiently to enact it myself. I already feel bad about the amount of times I've edited, I wasn't prepared or familiar with the administrator noticeboards and the policies and guidelines regarding when to notify them versus reverting on one's own. I've read it all now and so while I probably should have gone straight to the noticeboards early on if I had been doing things right, by now I feel like the best, fairest, collaborative way to resolve the entry would be achieving a consensus through RfC, and then bringing that to administrators regarding its implementation.
 * One might think, why should I care so much. Well I don't really care greatly about this one story or headline, but it was not the first I've seen to have an overly strong POV inserted into it on days after its posting, and I don't want the encyclopedia's historical archive of news to all be as slanted as could be gotten away with due to there being a lack of resistance to it. And so now I'm going to just hang my hopes on this plea and actually stop my edits of August 27th. So if it just goes unaddressed and the headline is left as 68.231.26.111 wants through inaction I'll have become one of the newcomers who was bitten and bullied like WP:BITE said. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 17:24, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Now I specifically am being bullied. As I was going through the headlines from throughout August to verify instances of late day changes I referred to earlier, I only actually changed one additional day, August 18th, in addition to August 27th, since 68.231.26.111 had already reverted RaqiwasSushi's attempts at compromise. August 18th I documented the specific reasons I was updating it based on what total consensus had seemed to be present that day and that 68.231.26.111 was still relying on late term unsourced edits to push POV. The Wal-Mart story was obviously notable, and I added citations to show so, the Obama administration attribution is the same kind of misunderstanding present on August 27th. In undoing both my edits at August 27th and 18th, 68.231.26.111 accused me of being a revert vandal, which I find highly offensive because 68.231.26.111 has not made any effort to meaningfully participate in any discussion toward compromise or consensus, where I've made every effort to edit fairly and verbosely throughout my contribution history. Whereas at this Aug 17 edit done on Aug 19 and this and this Aug 11 edits done on Aug 12 and 13 one can see additional evidence of 68.231.26.111's pattern to make edits on later days to push unpopular edits whether they are POV (Japan's nuclear reactor restart is not a disaster or accident), not notable (Emile Hirsch's brief jail time only being reported by celebrity news site deadline), et cetera, and I didn't even bother trying to correct those yet, focusing on the more egregiously improper headlines at August 27th and 18th. So while I've not thought or accused 68.231.26.111 of being anything other than a disruptive editor, which I recognize can be perfectly in good faith, I just want 68.231.26.111 to do the edits that 68.231.26.111 does that are not disruptive. 68.231.26.111 on the other hand is name-calling me a revert vandal, so I'll again leave the revert trenches to others, while I try further to understand and prepare myself to Request for Comment before bringing the whole case to administrators. 50.89.166.63 (talk) 20:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Subheadings
When should subheadings be included. For example, an anon just Pope Francis's visit to the United States to the September 22, 2015, entry. As there is unlikely to ever be another news item on that topic for September 22, should the subheading be there?

The reason I'm asking is that a banned Ann who I track likes to look at the "current event" pages, and frequently adds marginally relevant subheadings. One I remember removing recently was to Columbia-Venezuela relations (so I mistyped the article name). I think the article was on a drug seizure at the border.

Another example is Constitution of Nepal in September 20, 2015. It seems likely there will never be another news item with that subheader.

What are the guidelines for subheadings? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:52, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

RfC notification: Using archives of Portal:Current events for month articles
There's an RfC at WT:WikiProject Years about the practice of transcluding this Portal's archives into mainspace articles. Any input would be welcome. Thanks. DoctorKubla (talk) 16:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Access to news-related websites
Monday, there was an alert indicating editors could get access to some additional content websites. Remember it appeared at top of 'Current Events' page, hence "news-related" above. Didn't pursue; haven't noticed it since @ Monday noon. Interested. Thanks. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 20:12, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Current string of violent events at Israel/Palestine.
The current violent events that are taking place in Israel/Palestine needs its own article. To many killings regarding the dispute of Mount Hermon and clahes around the West Bank. Any volunteers.Mr.User200 (talk) 18:31, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Lamar Odom - 10/20/15 current event item removal(?)
Lamar Odom's is a former NBA basketball player and, final divorce decree pending, ex-husband of Khloé Kardashian, an American TV personality whose family has gained notoriety through promotion of itself and their connection to famous people with stories that covered by gossip media. He was near death in a brothel and is now alive. (background) Interesting, but not internationally newsworthy, in my opinion. Recommend removal. .RaqiwasSushi (talk) 14:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You want Portal:Current events/2015 October 20 &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ThanksRaqiwasSushi (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Premature entries for elections and polls
I made an entry at Portal talk:Current events/2015 October 25 about premature several premature entries for elections and polls. I think this is a recurring issue, so I'd really appreciate if we tried to wait with posting entries about elections and polls until there are any results. Otherwise, the whole "Politics and elections" section becomes TL;DR. Mikael Häggström (talk) 07:35, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * It is useful information. I really object to you removing useful information that I worked hard to put on the main page. You don't have to read it if you are not interested. Capitalistroadster (talk) 09:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't agree that "People in X go to the polls to elect X" is useful without any mention about results. I think you will save yourself time by waiting a day and then write about the outcome. Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Think day of election information is by itself news. There was no entry for Sunday's election in Haiti on the right sidebar or on the page about the first round of parliamentary elections this summer. In this case, it was happenstance that I became aware of it. The fact that there was an election, and that it was peaceful, and there were 54 candidates for presidency is surely news. And on a practical level, announcements increase the likelihood that results will make this portal. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, circumstances of elections may be newsworthy, but otherwise I think it's better to mention them only on the right sidebar until there are results. Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I disagree. These are our opinions. There is no consensus. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 04:09, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. Below is the current event example in the instructional header on Wiki's edit page. Maybe this helps. Surprised it was there.
 * Early elections in November are announced in the Netherlands. (Daily Telegraph) RaqiwasSushi (talk) 20:42, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

wikipedia 5,000,000 articles
should wikipedia getting 5,000,000 article be put in the news or not because we have a new logo and a banner on main page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5millionarticles (talk • contribs) 13:10, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Only if it becomes a main headline at a respected news site such as the BBC, I think. Probably not. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 11 November 2015
Add "Helmut Schmidt" to the list of Recent Deaths. The Recent Deaths list is currently empty. Suggest that there should always be at least one recent death such that this list is never empty.

75.149.152.50 (talk) 17:34, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The top box at Portal:Current events is shared with the Main Page; its contents are discussed and agreed at In the news/Candidates. Notice that Schmidt's death is listed as a bullet point: "Former West German chancellor Helmut Schmidt (pictured) dies at the age of 96." I think the usual practice is that if a prominent person's death is listed in that way, it is not repeated in the "Recent deaths" list. You could raise this issue at Wikipedia talk:In the news, perhaps. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I am human
I am human Je suis Paris Je suis Charlie

46.126.190.183 (talk) 15:52, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:07, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Fish
Sorry, but could someone with the requisite access fix the Salmon entry in the 'Topics in the News' and by extension the 'In the news' section on the main page? At the moment it is worded as follows: Salmon becomes the first genetically modified animal approved by the US FDA as fit for human consumption.

Might I suggest the following edit: Salmon becomes the first genetically modified cultured fish approved by the US FDA as fit for human consumption. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 20:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please post suggestions like this at WP:ERRORS. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:02, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Portal no longer to be archived in mainspace
Following this discussion, articles such as January 2001 which transclude this portal's archives into mainspace have been turned into redirects (so that "January 2001" now redirects to "2001#January", etc). This is just a heads-up that either the practice of creating these monthly archives should be discontinued entirely, or they should be moved into the Portal namespace (this can be discussed above, see ). Thanks. DoctorKubla (talk) 12:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There is a discussion at Bot requests to have a bot do this. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

What should happen to the current events archives?
The discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years includes a note that there is a "clear consensus" that month articles such as October 2011 should redirect to 2011 rather than transclude Portal:Current events/2011 October 1 etc. To comment on that, please post there not here.

But if that goes ahead, what should happen to the past "current events" pages? They will be very hard to find. I've suggested that the current version of October 2011 should be moved to something like Portal:Current events/Archive/October 2011 and that the box at the foot of Portal:Current events should point to those. I think that part of the discussion belongs here, since it concerns only the portal namespace. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyone interested in these archives may also be interested in January 1, 2015, a new mainspace article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I've added a comment to that discussion, offering a slightly different interpretation of what I perceive the consensus to be, and proposing an alternative outcome. --Waldir talk 16:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The archives should transclude Template:Current events archive with the first parameter being the year and the second parameter the month. Future months display an Ombox, while past months transclude Template:Archive and are placed in Category:Current events archives. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 03:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Daesh vs names such as Islamic State
The current crop of the terrorists has been identified as ISIL, ISIS, Islamic State and less frequently, Daesh. Recommend Daesh be the preferred id

An AOL story ( ISIS doesn't want to be known by this name anymore   http://www.aol.com/article/2015/11/20/isis-doesnt-want-to-be-known-by-this-name-anymore/21269267/) states:
 * That is part of why members and leaders in the organization don't like the new term that's starting to be used -- "Daesh." It's an acronym for the group's full Arabic name: Al-Dawla Al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham. U.S. officials have started using "Daesh" more frequently in recent months.


 * "We're going to defeat Daesh," Defense Secretary Ash Carter told troops in Baghdad in July. "I don't have any doubt about it."

Egyptologist Kara Cooney repeatedly has pointed out Isis is a goddess from the polytheistic pantheon of Egypt. At least let's stop  using her name for this group. For example, Http://www.facebook.com/karacooneyegyptologist/photos/a.10151802202217042.1073741825.117598487041/10153170379042042/ Let's help this become the standard RaqiwasSushi (talk) 04:40, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Placing here to get info up as soon as I can; having computer problem. It probably should be somewhere else; please let me know. Thanks RaqiwasSushi (talk) 04:40, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia prefers "ISIL". –  Illegitimate Barrister , 12:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

"Daesh" is political spin, and thus represents a POV. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 08:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

International climate change agreement
An international agreement about climate change was accepted today by the leaders of several countries in Paris. Should this event be added to Portal:Current events/Headlines? Jarble (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The place to nominate it is WP:ITN/C, and there is already a discussion there which supports its addition once the article is sufficiently updated.- gadfium 00:24, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
Someone has added the word "poo" to the page, but I'm not sure what exactly they edited to add that, and thus cannot revert it. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It was a bad edit to Portal:Current events/2015 December 19, which another editor has undone. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:11, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Financial Alarmists
Some editor(s) keep adding language into the Current Events pages referencing a non-existing 2016 Economic Crisis article. Nevermind that 2016 only started a few days ago and such a collapse hasn't materialized yet, the only evidence of this is stock price movements in China on the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges. Yesterday someone said it was "due to statistics indicating a decline in the Chinese economy." First of all, China's a developing economy which stock market is incredibly volatile, as we saw in the stock market crash in 2015; we can agree on this part. However, I changed the blurb to reflect the stock indexes percentage declines instead of some theoretical "economic decline" that the cited CNBC article does not mention. But more importantly, there is no correlation between stock market volatility and real economic growth or decline in China, much less it affecting the rest of the world. Whoever keeps adding alarmist language into the Current Events pages about some Economic Crisis, please come forward and debate this with me instead of just trying to scare people. 71.114.196.207 (talk) 10:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Lengthy news stories
Editors started to write a paragraph of stories. Normally, a story is written in one sentence. Why adding another or several more? --George Ho (talk) 01:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Nobots
(See also Portal talk:Current events/Archive 7) The nobots template was added to this page to prevent interwiki-bots from updating it, back when the syntax was different, and the page unprotected (and when we had interwikis and interwiki bots).

Now those things have changed, can we remove the template? All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 03:17, 20 April 2014 (UTC).

Portuguese presidential election, 2016
This election happened just recently. Could you add the name of the new President-elect in the news? Thanks. --B.Lameira (talk) 00:30, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 26 January 2016
can u make my page for me i cant make it

Omarr345 (talk) 17:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Not done. Your request is unclear, but your edit history suggests you wish to create a page on a non-notable individual. This is not relevant to the current events portal.- gadfium 20:19, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Removed sensational Moscow beheading story
Removed the 2016 Moscow beheading entry as it is a sensational one-event story. Article brought to AfD is likely to be deleted. -- Fuzheado &#124; Talk 15:09, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

canceled trump rally Chicago footage
Victor Grigas (talk) 04:30, 12 March 2016 (UTC) Also some photos to migrate if anyone wants to: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nathanmac87/ Victor Grigas (talk) 04:41, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Oromo
did u heard about oromo genocide in Ethiopia? if on one heard about it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:B086:EF0:38E5:FEEA:9A85:7AC2 (talk) 11:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * We do not appear to have an article on the protests in Ethiopia other than a brief mention at Oromo people. This does appear to be a subject which would be suitable for more detailed coverage, although this portal is the wrong place to do it. The term "genocide" should be used with caution; see WP:LABEL.- gadfium 19:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Time stop
Why does the page say the current time is "Time: 14:57 UTC |  Day: 7 April" and the news are not up to date? If you click "edit" on the individual day, you can see new pieces of news have been added, but they don't appear on this page. 89.176.248.75 (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This sometimes happens when the servers are busy. You can force an update by clicking the "Purge" link that is next to the date and time. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:50, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

improvement of wikipedia.
Wikipedia should be consist the details according to country wise and country state wise with the details of history and help full optimistic information♥ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.82.30.55 (talk) 13:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Venezuelans will lose half an hour of sleep
In my opinion, sentence "This means Venezuelans will now lose a half hour of sleep.", is inappropriate since half hour will be lost just once (unless they change time every night). I am aware this is what Guardian has written but time shifting is common in many countries (not one-time as in this case but winter/summer time). Reporting on time shift is certainly noteworthy, reporting on "Venezuelans will sleep less because of government" seems to me quite unfair (although government certainly has responsibility for venezuelan economy). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.220.232.235 (talk) 19:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 9 May 2016
Hemu (talk) 13:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Empty request. — xaosflux  Talk 14:06, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Future events
Does anone know if there is any comparable portal in wikipedia for future scheduled events (eg elections, trials, conferences)? Alternatively, is there any support for extending out this page to cover such entries? AndrewRT(Talk) 18:30, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 10 May 2016
The city is part of india not iraq mumbai is in india

65.175.135.214 (talk) 22:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you need to be a lot clearer about what exactly you want changed and what date you are referring to. I'm guessing you're referring to the entry for a specific date that's no longer on the main Portal:Current events page because I don't see anything there mentioning Mumbai. -- Irn (talk) 02:52, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

list of categories?
There seems to be some back-and-forth as to whether a certain category of news is "Business and Economy" or "Business and Economics". First, which is it? Second, is there a definitive list of categories used here? Thanks. --Christofurio (talk) 14:51, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * "Business and Economy" is used more frequently: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&profile=advanced&fulltext=Search&search=%22Business+and+economy%22+prefix%3APortal%3ACurrent+events%2F&ns100=1 1,113 pages] versus [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&profile=advanced&fulltext=Search&search=%22Business+and+economics%22+prefix%3APortal%3ACurrent+events%2F&ns100=1 220 pages]. I don't know of a definitive list of common subheadings. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:27, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Recent Births
An IP has attempted to add a "Recent Births" section to the sidebar. I don't think this is a good idea, as there have been only two notable births so far this year, and only two in the whole of 2015. I undid the edit, but if anyone disagrees with me then go ahead and put it back. The IP's edit was missing an end-of-table marker somewhere, but that's easily fixed. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:25, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Suggested Feature - View Filters
I scan through this page quite frequently (just about every workday morning) and a feature that came to mind that would be very useful would be the option to filter the types of stories that show up based upon the categories they fall under. For example, it would be very nice to have the option to be able to show/hide all of the "Armed conflicts and attacks" or "Arts and culture" articles most days so that I can focus in on other key topics of interest. I don't know how easy or not this would be to implement, but if it would not be too difficult to implement then it would make the site even better then the goodness it already is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.56.232 (talk) 14:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Portal turns 10
On June 30, 2016, Portal:Current events will turn 10 years old. Any plans for this? Should a banner appear on the portal for knowing that it turns 10? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:38, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request
Under the "Business" section of "Current events", for formality I think Brexit should be changed to United Kingdom withdrawal from the European Union. This is the term being used for the article title, and would therefore appear to be suitable. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 20:47, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: you can edit Portal:Current events/Sidebar yourself, please go ahead &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:52, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:02, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Edits annotated rollback
Why are my current event edits designated with these alerts:
 * [rollback (AGF)] || [rollback] || [rollback (VANDAL)]

which apparently delay display of the info? From what I can see, the alerts go away after (time? review? or?) and then the item becomes visible. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 22:21, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Where are you seeing these designations? That looks like Twinkle to me. Did you recently enable Twinkle? Are you seeing them when looking at the diff when your edit is the most recent? -- Irn (talk) 23:14, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * If you've enabled Twinkle but aren't planning to use those rollback links, you can ask Twinkle not to display them. Go to the Twinkle preferences panel, adjust the settings at "Show rollback links on these pages", then scroll to the bottom to save the changes. -- John of Reading (talk) 04:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 20:09, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Video game advertising
Why is pokemon go listed as a major ongoing event even though there is not a single entry for it in current events? 71.12.71.15 (talk) 01:30, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The entries of In the news are decided at In the news/Candidates and displayed on Main Page. In the news also happens to be displayed at top of Portal:Current events but the daily pages there are edited independently and the editors may make other choices. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Coup
2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt 109.78.239.160 (talk) 20:53, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

What are the notability requirements for the Current events Portal?
Today, an item was added and deleted from the current events portal. I was about to delete it myself before somebody else did. Are there any objective criteria for current events notability requirements? If not, doesn't it become rather easy for individuals or groups to push their agenda? --Gerrit CUTEDH 14:34, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * As of now it has been re-added. Notability issues aside, is Breitbart considered a reliable source for news? Do we have other (more) reliable sources that have covered the story?--Dvl007-TheRaven (talk) 18:35, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Political bias in posted articles
Over the past few weeks, I have noticed that there have been several article titles posted about the two U.S. presidential candidates that are either completely taken out of the source article's context or deliberately worded to confuse the reader. Specifically, this occurs with articles about Donald Trump. I realize that everyone has different political leanings, which is fine. However, can we PLEASE keep our politics to ourselves? This is supposed to be neutral, and when someone posts an article basically titled "Donald Trump asks Russia to hack the U.S.", its very misleading. Especially considering the source article/video was completely taken out of context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSauceCC (talk • contribs) 19:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Gene Wilder
Gene Wilder has passed away today. This should be mentioned on the main page. He was Willy Wonka. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrs. Jan Cola (talk • contribs) 20:17, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This was being discussed at In the news/Candidates, and he is now mentioned on the Main Page at the bottom of the "In the news" box. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:36, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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EU judgement against apple
Should be inclued — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.187.162 (talk) 11:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It is covered in the section for August 30. If you meant that it should be covered in the Topics in the News section, you will need to post at WP:ITN/C.- gadfium 22:10, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Islom Karimov Death
The headline about his death says that he has been the President of Uzbekistan since 1991, this is technically true, but misleading. He was made President of the Uzbek SSR in 1990 and retained the same position when it gained independence in 1991. Additionally he was the Premier of the Uzbek SSR since 1989, so really he has led the country since 1989, not since 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.233.241 (talk) 11:34, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for advising us. I've drawn attention to your post at Main Page/Errors.- gadfium 00:50, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * See that page for comments.- gadfium 04:53, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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Ongoing: Kashmir Unrest
I find it curious that Wikipedia's "In the news" lists only one Ongoing event, namely the 2016 Kashmir Unrest. Surely, there are other things going on today's world? What about the U.S election campaign and the civil wars in Syria and Yemen? Aren't they ongoing events? - Question from Doctorsundar.


 * Kashmir Unrest has been removed from ongoing events but its still debatable what to and what not to include there. Daiyusha (talk) 08:12, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Also if what i said is being debated somewhere, someone please paste the link here and remove the unresolved tag Daiyusha (talk) 08:16, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Arnold Palmer
Well-known golfer Arnold Palmer should be among the Recent Deaths on the front page. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 22:20, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * That's being discussed at In the news/Candidates. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

End of Colombian conflict
I am happy to report that the Colombian conflict has ended with the signing of the peace treaty between FARC and Colombian government. Please remove the conflict from ongoing conflicts. Daiyusha (talk) 08:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the peace treaty was voted down this past weekend. It also never covered the ELN, which is still fighting the Colombian government, so Colombia should go back on the list. Konchevnik81 (talk) 16:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Possible copyvios
I've found a few copyvios by User:GWA88 who is an active contributor at the current events pages. A lot of his additions here are Reuters sourced. I cannot access that site where I live, so I cannot do copyvio checks. Please consider spot checking to see if any of your entries by that user are copy pasted. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Reverts/edits/reverts...

 * Can some sysop-type of person take a look at some recent editing at Portal:Current events/2016 October 7? Anon is deleting events that happened on that day, events were restored and they have now  deleted them again.  Will leave notice on their talk page but someone above my pay-grade lol will probably need to step in. Shearonink (talk) 07:32, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * are you new to current portal?, current portal is for notable events as part of an encyclopedia - events that will need to be known as part of history 20 years from now - the current portal is NOT a newspaper of daily useless events that certain biased editors place there for their own propaganda goals - specifically, news about some idiot's comment 11 years ago reformulated to be about a daily grind of useless material about a presidential campaigne is of no value to our readers and has been repeatedly ad nausium been ruled is not part of an encyclopedia - adding it is like saying we should daily be quoted everything both of these two looser idiots talk about as part of both of their stupid campaignes - at the current portal the editors have removed all this mass media biased propaganda spin cycle - there is no reason to start now and let the portal degenerate into one or the other sides favorite location for political rubbish--2600:8800:FF04:C00:90C:69BD:1C86:33F1 (talk) 07:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with asking an admin to take a look at the content in question. It does seem to me that a particular event which many US Republican political leaders have reacted to by repudiating Mr. Trump's language/candidacy/behavior is of just as much historical interest as the Wikileaks releasing of the Podesta/Hillary Clinton emails. Shearonink (talk)
 * no one cares about stupid Hillary's Podesta emails what we care about is the hack and theft and possible tampering with the US election other than that the item would fail WP:NOTABILITY and just need to be removed also--2600:8800:FF04:C00:90C:69BD:1C86:33F1 (talk) 08:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * as for the other and you say have an admin look at it - I just said they have repeatedly stated the current portal page IS NOT A NEWSPAPER--2600:8800:FF04:C00:90C:69BD:1C86:33F1 (talk) 08:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The event is indisputably notable as a major turning point in the presidential campaign; it is quite certainly the most widely-covered and important story in American domestic politics at this point. Mentioning only the Wikileaks thing (receiving a small fraction of the coverage) while ignoring a campaign-changing revelation is not evidence of neutrality. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:19, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I would add that comments about "biased editors" and "looser idiots" (sic) are not helpful in writing an encyclopedia. Your personal opinion about the two major-party presidential candidates does not render them unimportant for our purposes. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:24, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Philippines/Duterte
For months, there has been daily updates about Duterte on the portal. They are always myopic and often outright biased. They started before his election when there was a daily barrage of posts on the portal about how awful he is, and then after he won the election there's been daily posts about how awful his policies are (especially with respect to his drug policies). Is there some reason that this one person gets so much coverage here, especially when that coverage is so clearly NPOV and UNDUE?128.214.53.104 (talk) 07:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm seconding this. There seems like there is a daily Philippines news item, sometimes two. It does seem to have started with Duterte's election, although they're not always about him. But even when they're not: do we need a daily update on the Davao City bombing that happened two weeks ago? I'm not sure that it's always biased against Duterte, because there seem to be a lot of headlines on relatively minor terrorist events in the southern Philippines as well, but this is definitely undue.Konchevnik81 (talk) 15:04, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of biased POV propaganda against Duterte in the news. This is the usual western propaganda stuff. Same with Trump and Putin. DerElektriker (talk) 11:41, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

What's notable for Wikipedians?
It's actually pretty amazing to see Wikipedia front page celebrating a protest action from 1936 when 200 Englishmen went on a march, and absolutely no mention in the newsreel of over 100,000 participants protesting against Polish abortion bill in 2016, despite worldwide support and coverage by basically every major news portal in length (Independent, Washington Post, The Telegraph, Huffington Post, Vice, New York Times, LA Times, The Economist, BBC News, Bloomberg). Also, nothing is mentioned by Wikinews. I guess it makes clear what are the priorities of Wikipedians. --Oop (talk) 07:46, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * To be fair the Jarrow March is a featured article, but otherwise, I'd agree - it's odd that there is zero mention of the Polish protests anywhere on the news page. Konchevnik81 (talk) 16:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * "every major news portal" you mean biased pro western MSM?DerElektriker (talk) 11:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Dyn attack
Should this be included on the main page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrs. Jan Cola (talk • contribs) 20:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * That's being discussed at In the news/Candidates. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Zimbabwean Bond Notes - released 28 November.
Zimbabwean Bond Notes for 2 and 5 Dollars has been released into circulation by the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe, along with a 1 Dollar Bond Coin. - (119.224.80.18 (talk) 02:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC))
 * Thanks for the suggestion! However, this isn't the right place for that. You need to make your suggestion over at In the news/Candidates. Cheers, -- Irn (talk) 04:09, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome to add a line about this to Portal:Current events/2016 November 28. Please include your source.- gadfium 05:11, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Pizzagate
Why is there no talk about the Pizzagate scandal? it is on national news. //tom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom afilaka (talk • contribs) 03:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * See Fake news website and Pizzagate- gadfium 05:07, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 20 December 2016
The President of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro suspends plans to eliminate the 100 bolivar note from circulation, in a country where much of the population lives on cash, without bank accounts. (Reuters)- this is the part that needs editing. The word bolivar is linked to Simon Bolivar, a person. It should be linked to the page detailing the Venezuelan bolivar, a currency. --Killuminator (talk) 00:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks for pointing that out! Also, only the main current events page itself is fully protected, each day has its own sub-page, so I was able to edit Portal:Current events/2016 December 17 and make that change. If you look at the same line as each date, you'll see "edit history watch" at the right, and you can just click "edit" and edit that date's entry. Cheers! -- Irn (talk) 02:54, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Jan 9th link error
In "Armed conflicts and attacks", the topic "A U.S. Navy destroyer fires three warning shots at four Iranian fast-attack vessels...", the "(CNN)" link links to an unrelated shooting of an Orlando police officer. 93 00:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Where's the News? No News was Posted for Entire 1st Week of January 2017. Why?
Why was no news posted for the entire first week of January 2017? Did nothing happen in the world? The last news posted took place on New Years Eve weekend. How many people attend to the Current Events portal? Stevenmitchell (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you're confusing the "In the News" part of the main page with this portal. The portal is updated regularly - at the top of this page, click on "Portal" or click here, and you'll see. Cheers. -- Irn (talk) 15:08, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I wanted to post on the "In the News" Talk section (that was my intention, but there does not appear to be a direct link to that location), so I chose the only area that is otherwise associated with it - hence, here, at this portal Talk page. Would you have an idea where I can find the "In the News" section to locate their Talk area? They hadn't updated the news in about 10 days at all, and if one considers the previous news post, actually maybe a bit more. Thanks for your help. Stevenmitchell (talk) 09:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The page to suggest new items for "In The News" is WP:ITN/C, and there's a link to it at the top of this talk page, and another at the top of the edit window when you post here. If you want to discuss how the ITN section can be improved in more general terms, see Wikipedia talk:In the news.- gadfium 22:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Recent deaths
The editing instructions for the day-to-day pages read:
 * Do not list the ordinary deaths of prominent persons here. That's what recent deaths is for. Exceptions to this rule are made for prominent persons who died in office (such as Pope John Paul II and Omar Bongo) or other instances where the death in itself has a major impact.

The portal currently has entries Debbie Reynolds (Weds), Carrie Fisher (Tues), and George S. Irving (Mon). None of those meet the "died in office" criterion or the "subsequent impact" criterion, and Irving can hardly be said to meet the "prominent" criterion in the papal (JP2) or presidential (Bongo) sense. Should they be deleted? 189.203.188.113 (talk) 23:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * More recently, another one of these recent deaths was added in this revision by User:Espresso Addict. Should it be removed? Jarble (talk) 23:37, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This is not a good forum to debate additions to the ITN section; I didn't even realise it existed until receiving the ping. In the news/Candidates is for individual discussions, such as the one that gave consensus to post Zhou as a blurb. Wikipedia talk:In the news is for general discussions relating to ITN, where the merits or lack of them of posting Reynolds, Fisher & Michaels were debated extensively. Main Page/Errors is for errors. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:46, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Too much systemic bias
It seems we are now routinely including local-interest news in Portal:Current events, but only local interest news that is of interest to North Americans and Europeans. For example: If you've ever lived in a 3rd world country, you know that "crazy man attacks people with machete" is a weekly news staple. Just because it happens in Canada doesn't suddenly make it relevant to the rest of the world. And regarding local/regional elections, there are literally thousands of these happening across the world every year. If we include Berlin's local election, why shouldn't we include all the rest of them? I've tried removing some of these stories on occasion, but I'm usually reverted. Can we please make more of an effort to only include news that is actually internationally relevant? Believe it or not, there are actually people that read this page that don't live in North America and Europe. And believe it or not, they don't really care about the price of tea in London. Kaldari (talk) 06:03, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * An unidentified suspect chases people with a machete outside the Malborough CTrain station in Calgary, Alberta and injures 2 inside the nearby Marlborough Mall, including a police officer. The suspect was shot by the injured officer and remains under critical condition.
 * Voters head to the polls in Berlin, Germany, to elect members to the Abgeordnetenhaus of Berlin. Latest polling indicates the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD) are expected to make strong gains.
 * I agree completely. As an example (taking today's news), how is more important the Gaelic and Australian football results than the three Nobel Prizes already awarded ? Pepe Ochoa (talk) 13:21, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The MSM is full of this. A lot of people think this stuff is important and post it to wikipedia.DerElektriker (talk) 11:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree, but should we be including things like this? A house fire in Akron, Ohio (US), kills four people, including two young girls. One woman safely fled her attic bedroom. A seriously injured 12-year old girl is revived and rescued 75.143.130.171 (talk) 16:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No. That's much too local / common. Things should actually be unique to be included. Dustin  ( talk ) 17:59, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, a somewhat Eurocentric or Anglocentric bias is apparent in the Current Events portal. For example, it describes the recent cold wave in Europe that has claimed 20 lives so far, whereas the ongoing Famine in Yemen is not mentioned at all. Jarble (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

I've been personally frustrated with this kind of thing as well. I want at least some sort of systemic logic to work with as a consensus. To my understanding so far, that has been roughly "At least a national scale event for there to be international relevance" and have used that as a rule of thumb. But I never saw any direct explanation from anyone why seemingly local county scale news had to be sustained that I attempted to remove:  even though that time multiple users with accounts were interested in keeping the headline, I never understood what made the event internationally or nationally relevant. Others reposting it merely asserted that it was somehow so relevant, as if expecting me to need to prove a negative in response. As it stands notability is so inconsistently evaluated and applied that even between stories entirely within the Euro-American news sphere I feel worthy ones get deleted alongside countless local stories being unnecessarily kept. Sumstream (talk) 19:39, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Semicolon use as bold markup / accessibility
Four years ago this was last discussed. and both expressed it would better to change it. Semicolons, as I understand it, read differently for screenreader users. It also violates the WP:BADHEAD rule. I'd like to get a consensus to start using bold markup on the current events page. It doesn't change the appearance of the page at all. If this doesn't get anywhere I might take it to RfC. --Jennica ✿ / talk 22:44, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


 * It's not "bold markup" that's needed, but proper, semantic headings (or list markup). Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:10, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed. That'd be ideal. Graham 87 05:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - alright, what needs to be done then? I'd like to help --Jennica ✿ / talk 08:55, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The semicolon markup needs to be replaced with either headings or with list markup ("*") and the list of events would be nested within the new markup). I have no idea which would look the best;, what are your thoughts? Graham 87 09:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Subheadings would preserve the current visual appearance most closely. Changing to list markup will require changes to the markup of the listed items as well as to the pseudo-headings. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:22, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

"dozens of cities in Romania and diaspora" sounds clunky
"More than 600,000 people protest in dozens of cities in Romania and diaspora against..." sounds clunky - could you modify the word "diaspora" more? --dbabbitt (talk) 18:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Time to change the picture
The Somalian guy's face has been up there long enough. If the headline for the President of Germany was just updated on the highlights,an equal rank, his face should be up there by now.-- Sıgehelmus    (Talk) &#124;д=)  17:24, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 17 March 2017
Crockett furniture is closing forever after 45 years in bussiness 72.73.115.59 (talk) 20:18, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * A local store is not sufficiently notable. If there was an article on it in Wikipedia, it would be appropriate to update that article.- gadfium 03:03, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Bob Dylan has finally agreed to accept his Nobel Prize
This doesn't seem newsworthy 75.143.130.171 (talk) 18:48, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 April 2017
"An explosion occurs at a carnival in Paris, France, injuring at least 30 people; three or four of which are in critical condition." Change "...three or four of which..." to "...three or four of whom..." Captainllama (talk) 23:58, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I see you made the change yourself. Thanks. The source used for the story was not considered reliable so I added a better source, and trimmed the story as the new source didn't include this detail.- gadfium 01:12, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017 WikiCup newsletter
The second round of the competition has now closed, with just under 100 points being required to qualify for round 3. YellowEvan just scraped into the next round with 98 points but we have to say goodbye to the thirty or so competitors who didn't achieve this threshold; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Our top scorers in round 2 were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, led the field with five featured articles, four on birds and one on astronomy, and a total score of 2049, half of which came from bonus points.
 * 🇯🇵 1989 was in second place with 826 points, 466 of which were bonus points. 1989 has claimed points mostly relating to anime and Japanese-related articles.
 * Peacemaker67 took third place with two FAs, one GA and seven GARs, mostly on naval vessels or military personnel, scoring 543 points.
 * Other contestants who scored over 400 points were Freikorp, Carbrera, and Czar. Of course all these points are now wiped out and the 32 remaining contestants start again from zero in round 3.

Vivvt submitted the largest number of DYKs (30), and MBlaze Lightning achieved 13 articles at ITN. Carbrera claimed for 11 GAs and Argento Surfer performed the most GARs, having reviewed 11. So far we have achieved 38 featured articles and a splendid 132 good articles. Commendably, 279 GARs have been achieved so far, more than double the number of GAs.

So, on to the third round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

WannaCry ransomware attack
There is an on-going ransomware attack by a programme that has been called WannaCry. This has been reported in a number of different countries, causing a major problems with the British NHS, major Spanish telecoms firm Telefónica, and numerous other organisations. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 16:51, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Update: The attack has spread worldwide.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 19:15, 12 May 2017 (UTC)


 * It's now listed on both 12 and 13th May.- gadfium 08:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Murder of Seth Rich and WikiLeaks - May 16 2017
I added this current events as it is a major story, and I provided multiple sources. The BLP issues were considered and the family's view was stated. There have been tremendous efforts to take down this story on current events, with multiple reverts, not to mention swearing at me in my talk page. I think we should discuss it civilly here. Lasersharp (talk) 17:30, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No. This is a WP:HOAX which violates WP:BLP and may cause grief and harm to the family of the victim. Just. Fucking. No. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to add this idiotic nonsense. I mean, once? Yeah, sure, you were unaware. To persist with it???   etc. etc. Volunteer Marek (talk) 17:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * you need to move this over to here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#WP:BLP_and_WP:HOAX_at_Murder_of_Seth_Rich --2600:8800:FF04:C00:2169:C266:D9F6:9F08 (talk) 17:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Editors should calm down and stop the swearing. I included the family's statement in the blurb. The story merits mention on current events page in a way that does not violate BLP. Maybe the blurb wasn't well written enough, you can discuss that here, but don't just swear at me with personal attacks. Also, while I agree this is not something that should be in the Murder of Seth Rich page (too soon), it should be in the current events page. Lasersharp (talk) 17:55, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Look. We don't even have this "info" in the article you are linking. For a good reason. It's a hoax and it violates BLP. If we can't even have it in the article, how in the world are you going to put it up as a headline on the front page??? Volunteer Marek (talk) 19:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Saudi regime's siege on al-Awamiyah
Since approx. 2 weeks, there's a Saudi military siege on the predominantly Twelver Shia village of al-Awamiyah. Dozens of Shia civilians are dead, including a child. A Shia mosque was also destroyed. It is the same village that Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr hailed from. It has to be added to the Current events, possibly in the ongoing matters. More information on that :  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.220.72.109 (talk) 08:57, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Cascading protection issues
Did an event happen which I was not aware of? Why has a cascading administrator protection been put on the current events? It is now impossible to edit the daily current events for any non-admins. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 01:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think indefinite cascade-protection will kill the current events portal. The subpages are created, edited and re-edited very frequently each day as the day's news unfolds. Usually it works well, and the regular editors come to an agreement over which news items are important enough to be listed. Sometimes one of the daily subpages needs temporary protection while a dispute is worked out. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:54, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I've updated it to be a lesser protection. I can see it would be difficult to have only admins be able to edit, and I agree it would likely discourage non-admins from trying to help since they couldn't really do anything. It's now only protected at "Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access". Sorry for any hassle. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 06:41, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking off the cascade protection. But please restore non-cascading full protection, or perhaps template-editor protection, to the Portal:Current events page itself. The top-level page is a bunch of clever formatting and transclusion code that should not need frequent editing, and since it is linked from the sidebar of every page it is a highly visible page. And full move protection seems sensible to me; it won't be long before someone asks "what does this menu item do?" and tries to move it. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 07:24, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Portugal's Fires
You should make it appear as a headline, death toll is already 61 and the government already decreed three days of national mourning. --2001:8A0:771B:9901:D4FC:BEF2:4363:ECE7 (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The headline items in the top box here are chosen at In the news/Candidates. By coincidence, 2017 Portugal wildfires was added shortly after you posted here. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:05, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 July newsletter
The third round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 288 points being required to qualify for round 4. It was a hotly competitive round with all but four of the contestants exceeding the 106 points that was necessary to proceed to round 4 last year. Coemgenus and Freikorp tied on 288, and both have been allowed to proceed, so round 4 now has one pool of eight competitors and one of nine.

Round 3 saw the achievement of a 26-topic Featured topic by MPJ-DK as well as 5 featured lists and 13 featured articles. PanagiotisZois and SounderBruce achieved their first ever featured articles. Carbrera led the GA score with 10, Tachs achieved 17 DYKs and MBlaze Lightning 10 In the news items. There were 167 DYKs, 93 GARs and 82 GAs overall, this last figure being higher than the number of GAs in round 2, when twice as many people were taking part. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 4, we say goodbye to the fifteen or so competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 05:37, 30 June 2017 (UTC)