Portal talk:Russia/Archive 1

Thanks to Zscout370
A great job making this portal! Thanks, Zscout370!!! Definetely a Barnstar! Irpen 03:48, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I created this WikiPortal after I saw the India WikiPortal. I wanted to give this a chance, since the WikiProject with the Russian notice board is pretty much dead. If you have any questions, just let me know here or on my talk page. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:56, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Soviet Composers Category
How does one create a category? I think a project on Soviet Composers, and a corresponding category look like good ideas. Any advice?Crocodilicus 05:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Russian project

 * Topic for discussion: Please, describe a purpose (goal, targets) of Russian Collaboration Projects. How someone got an idea to be involved in the first place. Vald 12:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Need to know if someone knows somebody involved in Russian projects in German/French wikipedia? Vald 12:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Debugging
Great job. Finally this place is looks well. But there is a slight issue(I'm always there to upset people), I've opened this page in Firefox, and every section is dangling over another, in IE it looks fine. I fail to fix the styles myself(tried inserting some float: etc.), but I think we need someone to do it since this browser is important for Open Source movement and which has a lot to do with Wiki, and it also claims to be standards-compliant - i.e. what renders in it, should render elsewhere properly. By comparison Wikiportal/Information technology is fine. At least someone open it in other browser just to check that it's not my install too drugged on extensions renders it like that.Gnomz007 04:47, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I used the templates that were standard with the portal, and I also use Internet Explorer. I am very sorry that the page does not work well in Firefox. I will see what I can do, but I must download that broswer first to see what is going on. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:49, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Please, don't be sorry, you've made this whole thing Gnomz007 05:11, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Wow, it looks perfect hooray Gnomz007 05:16, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am glad it worked! What I did is I went to the Portal you mentioned and I just copied the formatting. I kept the same bgcolor, text color, etc for this Portal. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

About that link I doubt it's possible to recolor it, since the link redefines color within  tag and you can not write it directly, and hence you can not change the color for that particular tag. Well blue was such a good idea (unlike white and red) Gnomz007 08:59, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I kept the blue for the heading, but I changed all of the others to grey. The links come out better in grey. I also still need to come up with a dicision to what should happen to the Noticeboard. I put a link at the Noticeboard that everything going on there will take place here now. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Even though this subject is long-closed, just for general information, actually there was a way to add any kind of formatting inside the l i n k  the trick is to include the formatting in alternative text l i n k, but alas - what is being formatted is inside the link, so you will never fix that underlining, which in my guess is done with border-bottom: solid .1em, or something, anyway - there is no way to modify it. –Gnomz007(?) 03:31, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * You lost me there, sorry. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 07:11, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I was guessing that :), just could not have a discussion, where I stated the opposite closed, anyway it would now work for portal formatting, unless you match the color to the underline, or make it a real underline in css.–Gnomz007(?) 14:18, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Board for Announcements at this Wikiportal
In addition to the "Russian Collaboration Projects" section for lacking articles on important topics, it would be nice to have a place to announce other newly created articles. Some of the new articles' topics are not worthy enough to be featured on the portal's main page, but still may get attention of the editors who watch the board and happen to be interested in the particular topic. Perhaps a separate "Newly created articles notice board" with the link from the portal page is the way to go. Irpen 05:29, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done! Wikiportal/Russia/New_article_announcements created and linked to portal's front page. Irpen 06:06, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * I Love it! Zscout370 (Sound Off) 17:04, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Imperial Russia article needs major expansion
I already expanded article Russians, however article Imperial Russia needs major work, its pitifully small compared to articles on German, Ottoman or Austro-Hungarian empires. (Fisenko 01:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC))
 * Ok, then we can try to list it at the RCOTW. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Guys, Imperial Russia is a navigational article that refers to four articles that correspond to four periods of the Russian History between the end of 17th and beginning of the 20th century. Each of these articles is very good and I don't think it is a good idea to try to move the info from them back to Imperial Russia article. These historic articles are in a great shape, especially if compared to many important ru-related topics. On the other hand, Russians even expanded to its current form, still lacks a lot. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work user:Fisenko put into it and it is indeed now better than it was but still, it needs major work. I am very tempted to revert this change, but don't want to do this without consulting others. So, could we return Russians there for now? -Irpen 02:48, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Sure, you can return "Russians" there. However, I still think what Imperial Russia article can be improved a lot...there is no map, no coat of arms etc., nothing comparable to articles on Ottoman, German or Austro-Hungarian empires. Also most ethnic articles such as Poles, Ukrainians etc. are in even worse shape. (Fisenko 02:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC))
 * As for CoA and Map, I agree. I cross-posted the above to the talk:Imperial Russia page. It is really hard to make a good ethnical article, I agree with you. I just looked at Ukrainians. The problem, aside from usual ones, is the cross talk between country, it's history and language articles and optimizing the cross-talk for the ethnical article.


 * Right now, Imperial Russia is listed at two sections of the portal: in "collaboration projects" and in "things you can do". Would one of the two be sufficient? Then we can feature another one in need of attention. I don't mind it being not the Russians article. -Irpen 03:14, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and placed Imperial Russia at the Russian COTW. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:54, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

FA Project
Ok, does everyone like to work on a possible Featured Article? If so, I want to create my second FA, Hero of the Russian Federation. I got some links at the bottom, I got photos stashed away and a lot to contribute. If you wish to see what I wish for it to be like, head over to my first FA, Hero of Belarus. Thanks for those who wish to take part. To steal a line from The Hunt For Red October, we shall sail into history. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 19:26, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A concern: little activity
Guys, could we all please be more proactive in terms of updating the portal with new news, featured articles, featured pictures, new articles, DYK stuff etc.? It appears that the portal is already repeating the sad history of the Russian COTW. It seems to be dying slowly, but surely. KNewman 12:36, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * We probably need to have some procedures in place regarding updating the FA, DYK, and other sections. I suspect that some people are just hesitant to touch them because of lack of procedures.  The FA process is the very least that needs to be done in that respect.&mdash;Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 13:42, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

The portal appears to be 90% inactive. KNewman June 29, 2005 11:17 (UTC)
 * Well, I have not had much time updating the portal, since I am still in the process of moving into an appartment. I will try to do what I can in time. Though, sadly, I think my Belarus portal is toast. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 29 June 2005 18:43 (UTC)


 * I think "new articles" are updated pretty well. I suggested, that those who announce new articles, give a little thought to whether it can be used for DYK (I just posted a note there). That would facilitate updating the DYK section too. Also, please consider posting info to WP:DYK, though, even if featured there, it would not necessarily bring editors to the article. Garrison schools was DYK featured on the WP main page for the whole day and not a single edit :(.


 * Images: I just posted a call in "Find images". Hope, it will help.


 * Also, we need to encourage the more active usage of Wikiportal/Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board. It may help to improve many articles and topics.


 * News: that's, I think, the item where not updating is the most catastrophic. Either we get volunteers, or we need a procedure or smth. It is a time consuming and not very rewarding work. But when a stranger walks in to a portal, other sections' not being updated would still be fine, while old stuff in news sections looks pitiful. Will be back with more later. -Irpen June 29, 2005 20:03 (UTC)


 * The news I put there came from Wikinews, but yall are welcome to bring it in from other sources, or change the format completely. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 29 June 2005 19:33 (UTC)

Russia is not much covered in Wikinews, unfortunately. We should just post some one-two sentence news we find ourselves. I think it should be less about politics and more on things of interest to Wikicommunity. I try (not hard enough) to do that for the draft version of Ukraine portal. -Irpen June 29, 2005 20:03 (UTC)

Ferezja
Since we had recently some discussion about old Polish clothing names, I have stumbled upon a Russian-related article on Polish Wiki - pl:Ferezja. Does it have an equivalent on English or Russian wikis? I'd be happy to translate it, if I knew what was the correct name for it :) (fieriez? doesn't sound too russian to me...) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, there was such clothing in Russia called ферязь (also ферезь), which may be transliterated as feryaz (or ferez). Russian dictionaries say only a couple of lines about it, nothing special. KNewman 03:19, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, a one men dictionary entry is another men trasure :) So if anybody could translate it and create a stub and possibly throw a pic in the mix, I think it would be great :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 03:07, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Soviet Union
Hi all, I'm putting together a project to expand and standardise articles on the Soviet Union. Your input would be greatly received at: WikiProject Soviet Union. Thanks - FrancisTyers 22:17, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Cyrillic in Wikipedia
Please see the new page at Naming conventions (Cyrillic), aimed at —Michael Z. 2005-12-9 20:33 Z 
 * 1)  Documenting the use of Cyrillic and its transliteration in Wikipedia
 * 2)  Discussing potential revision of current practices

I believe each article should contain a transliteration and a pronunciation guide, with the former following GOST and the latter following commonly accepted western standards.

Cyrillic   GOST А         | A Б          | B В          | V Г (RU)     | G Г (UA, BE) | G Ґ (UA)     | H Д          | D Е (RU)     | E Е (BE)     | JE Е (UA)     | E Ё (RU)      | E Ё (BE)     | JO Є (UA)     | JE Ж          | ZH З          | Z И (RU)     | I И (UA)     | Y І (UA, BE) | I Ї (UA)     | JI Й          | J К          | K Л          | L М          | M Н          | N О          | O П          | P Р          | R С          | S Т          | T У          | U Ў (BE)     | W Ц          | C Ф          | F Х          | KH Ч          | CH Ш          | SH Щ (RU, UA) | SHCH Ъ (RU)    | ` ' (UA, BE) | ` Ы (RU, BE) | Y Ь         | ' Э (RU)    | EH Э (BE)     | E Ю          | JU Я          | JA

Kazak 20:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Do you mean "each article that contains any Russian words or names"?


 * Wikipedia currently uses a modified version of BGN/PCGN for its transliteration of Russian, and IPA for pronunciation. Proposals for changes to the former are welcome at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Cyrillic), but the latter is not likely to change, but the place to discuss it would be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (pronunciation).  —Michael Z. 2006-01-17 20:47 Z 


 * Keep in mind, the average English reader has no idea of how to pronounce a Polish names such as Tadeusz Kościuszko, yet the article exists because Poland has an official Latin alphabet. Even Belarus's unofficial Lacinka alphabet is widely used - since GOST is the closest thing to an official Russian Latin alphabet, we should use that as well. Kazak 01:37, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It has errors. Rather than

Г (RU)    | G Г (UA, BE) | G Ґ (UA)     | H

it should be Г (RU)    | G Г (UA, BE) | H Ґ (UA, BE) | G Bandurist (talk) 04:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Katyń massacre for FAC
This controversial article has recently benefited from much expantion and addition of many footnoted references (I am currently working on transforming elinks into proper footnotes). I think it is quite comprehensive and close to FAC, but I'd ask you to look over it, see if it needs any NPOV (Ghirlandajo left an NPOV tag recently) and provide any other references you may deem useful. Especially the last section 'The truth surfaces' needs NPOVing, starting with a title (I couldn't figure out anything better after I shuffled the sections yesterday, making the 'post-Soviet developments' name obsolete (as that section now includes material from late 80s). I hope to see your input guys!--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:49, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

top ten russian baby names?
Hi:) The page Most popular names is missing Russia. Has anybody seen a list they could include? Which name is most popular at the moment? Igor? Ivan? Alexander? Jameswilson 03:38, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit war on Vorkuta
An edit war has erupted over Vorkuta. It has now resulted in the locking of the page from editing. Please discuss the issues at Talk:Vorkuta. -- Petri Krohn 09:00, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Moved to Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board -- Petri Krohn 08:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Help request
I am working on currency articles. Could some Russian expert help validating my transliteration in the infobox of Russian ruble? I'm trying to make it like Ukrainian hryvnia. Thanks. --Chochopk 19:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I meant, help on the plural. --Chochopk 20:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Russian transliteration guidelines are available at WP:RUS. I made some corrections.  Not quite sure where exactly you need help with the plural.  Could you, please, clarify?  Thanks.&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna of Russia
Hello. The article on the last Grand Duchess of Imperial Russia, Olga Alexandrovna Romanova, is complete of facts, biographical information, and is furthermore packed with the needed information. Now the information and technical matters within the article must be resolved in order to promote the article to Featured Article status. Thank you for your time and please visit the article here (Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna of Russia) and make comments on how to improve the article at its Wikipedia: Peer Review page here:. Thanks again. -- AJ24 23:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Help with translations
I'm currently working on a script intended to create short articles on political parties on a variety of wikipedias simultaneously. However, in order for the technique to work I need help with translations to various languages. If you know any of the languages listed at User:Soman/Lang-Help, then please help by filling in the blanks. For example I need help with Russian. Thanks, --Soman 12:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Not sure how useful the resulting stubs are going to be, but I translated the Russian section. There were a few points I was not too sure about (I marked them as such), and the whole section could use an extra pair of eyes; but the translation is mostly complete.  Please let me know if you have any questions or need anything else.&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Where does one go for help/review?
I could've sworn that I saw a link somewhere on this portal to a page were Russian speakers, or native Russians, or people who are otherwise experts in all things Russia, would review an article on a Russian topic for you. Does such a page exist or should I just ask it here? I'll just assume the later for the moment for the sake of expediency: I wrote an article on the Kengir uprising and want to bring the article up to FA status. To do so I think it's necessary that I get some Russian eyes on this thing, mainly because I'm just a kind of subpar Russophile and not so well versed in its history and I feel like I might be mischaracterizing some things, especially in the "background" and "significance" sections. Any help or advice would much appreciated! --Clngre 12:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

A minor concern
I wish to address a minor concern here. Notice that all the featured portals on Wikipedia are linked to a Portal namespace. But the edit links in the portal boxes link to a template namespace. For more information about this, please read this subsection. Isn't it better to standardize this on Wikipedia? -- S iva1979 Talk to me 19:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

help on translation of currencies
Can anyone help translating/validating the Russian names of these currencies in their infoboxes?
 * Kazakhstani tenge (validation)
 * Kyrgyzstani som (I suppose Кыргызская сом is wrong because Кыргызская is fem.)
 * Tajikistani somoni (translation)
 * Turkmenistani manat (translation)
 * Uzbekistani som (translation)
 * Belarusian ruble (validation)
 * Ukrainian hryvnia (translation)
 * Transnistrian ruble (validation)

By the way, the style of the local name in currency infobox says "Use capitalization rule as if it is in the middle of a sentence in that language." Thanks. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've validated existing russian names and corrected, don't think that translation is needed in any cases - Russian is not official language in those countries. -- tasc wordsdeeds 09:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Incorrect. Belarus and Kyrgyzstan are bilingual. The Minister of Finance who introduced the som was Russian-speaking. --Pan Gerwazy 20:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Incorrect what? -- tasc wordsdeeds 20:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

"Russia, As Seen and Described by Famous Writers"
This 1909 book has been posted to the project gutenberg site. The HTML version of the book contains a number of image scans from the period. They are of below average to average quality due to their age, but a few might be of possible interest for Russian history pages. Thanks. &mdash; RJH (talk) 20:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Music (and works of art, for that matter)
What are the standards for naming 'work of art articles'? Specifically, how should albums be named. Should they be transliterated, translated or both?I If both, in what order should they be listed. Also, I am not sure how to list songs properly. My first insinct is to list them by the transliterated name, with the translated name in brackets. Crocodilicus 06:09, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Kino (band) is what I am working on right now. Crocodilicus 06:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * You might want to ask your questions at WP:ALBUM, where folks are more knowledgeable about music-related conventions..&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Russian History Project
Hi Folks:

I'm one of a group of Russian historians who are considering setting up a WP Russian history project. Most of the members of this group are history professors, and their primary interest is to see that WP entries on Russian history are accurate and well categorized, primarily because their students use them all the time. WP has really become the source of first resort for many students, so we need to make sure it's trustworthy. The idea itself was generated on two professional listserv, H-Russia and H-EarlySlavic. The logs of the on-going discussion are there if you would like to review them.

We'd like your help and cooperation, and would be interested in your thoughts.

If you are interested in knowing more about me, see Marshall Poe. You can email me at marshallpoe at gmail dt com. MarshallPoe 15:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

PS: I've contacted the people over at the Russia project.

Runet
Please, take a look at Runet article. Now it is: "Runet (short for Russian Internet) is a major Russian Internet service provider. It supports web portals constructed by its users[1]". --ajvol 09:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It has been updated. --ssrc т 23:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

what is the regime style?
presedential federative republic or presedential federation.

according to the russian constitution Russia is a federation with a republican form of government. Superzohar 21:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Its a presidential federation, or at least thats my opinion :) Fethroesforia 15:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Oil shale
Does anyone have an information or good source about the current state of play of the Russian oil shale industry? Is there still any active oil shale mining and processing industry? The information is needed to verify and update the information in the Oil shale and its offspring articles. Also any photo is most welcome. Beagel 07:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Create one single WP:Russia project?
I have been editing Russian aviation articles for a while now, doing bits and pieces before I delve in and do total re-writes in an attempt to bring these articles up to par - Aeroflot will be my first big one shortly. I was having a look at some of the Russian airport articles as part of getting info together for the re-writes, and I noticed that many of these articles are hopelessly out-of-date and are basically based upon information which US/NATO obtained/released when information did not flow freely. The same goes for the Russian aircraft articles, take a look at Tupolev Tu-95 for a perfect example, it is entirely written from a NATO perspective, with no information on where these aircraft are based, what squadrons, etc. Compare to the American equivalent, the B-52. Going thru tonnes of Russian articles, I was actually very surprised to find 3 articles that one would probably expect to be featured articles are not; those being Russia, Moscow and Russian language (yes the language article lost FA status 24 hours ago). I was also surprised to find that many articles I expected to exist do not; prime example being many of the Federal government ministries. Then there are other problems such as:


 * Naming conventions - very little continuity and no real guidelines for Russian names and articles in wikipedia as a whole - an example is here.
 * Categorisation - naming conventions will help somewhat - following other naming conventions will help too - an example of poor categorisation throughout Russian articles - Category:Russian_people
 * Article assessment - there are no guidelines for this, and it has resulted in some unusual results. Guidelines are needed.
 * Article review - there are no guidelines specific to Russian articles and with more than one project, other projects won't necessarily know of review requests. Additionally, because of the number of projects with very little scope in each, wider community views can be missed. For example, Russian language was a featured article until 23 August (yesterday). It's featured article review, unfortunately it went unannounced on all Russian projects, apart from this corner
 * Collaboration - there is none to very little collaboration on Russian content between the various projects and unfortunately article quality, and perhaps stability, will suffer for it.
 * Recruitment/outreach - As we are members of various Russian projects, we took the time to add our name to a list, because we have an interest in a certain (or all) aspect/s of Russia. New members are needed, but how will they find the projects? There needs to be co-ordination to 'recruit' new members.
 * Scope - just what is the scope for the various projects? WikiProject Russian federal subjects has a very very narrow somewhat defined scope; WikiProject Russian history has a hazy 'historical' scope; a question being raised here.

What I would suggest, rather what I am suggesting, is the following projects be merged into WikiProject_Russia and for it to be co-ordinated much like any other all-encompassing project. The projects I am suggest to be merged are:


 * WikiProject_Russia - main project
 * WikiProject Russian federal subjects
 * WikiProject Russian history
 * Portal:Russia

Other projects which can be used as guides on how to structure the project would be:


 * WikiProject Australia
 * Portal:Australia - a featured portal

Of course there needs to be concensus from all projects for a merge and structures be discussed, etc, but firstly, there needs to be discussion on the pros and cons of such an idea. I have posted this on the other project talk pages, and have asked that all discussion take place here so that we all projects can read off the same page. --Russavia 16:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This all sounds great; if you are willing to start organizing this, I, for one, am all for it. You should know, however, that, judging from past experiences, it would be rather difficult to rally us Russian Wikipedians to work on any given topic together for any significant extent of time.  There are just too few members, all of whom seem to be interested in different, often only remotely related, things.
 * With regards to WikiProject Russian federal subjects (which I started)&mdash;I don't think it needs to be upmerged, what it needs is to be done :) As you noted, its scope is very narrow, so if several people could concentrate on finishing the tasks the project outlines, then the whole thing could be wrapped up and the articles on federal subjects could be managed from within the general "Russia Project" from then on.  Unfortunately, topics such as the Federation structure, government (including those ministries you mentioned), and other things of that nature seem to fall into the "boring bucket"&mdash;no one around here seems to be passionate enough about them.  I'd do it, but I can't even keep up with the administrative and municipal divisions alone (an extremely narrow topic, which, nevertheless, eats up quite a bit of time).
 * Anyway, idle chatter aside, you've got yourself at least one supporter :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Russian rock
I belive we need a task force or a WikiProject to improve articles on the theme.

Bi-2, Piknik, Voskreseniye need URGENT expension and references.

Smisloviye Galutzinatzii, Checherina, Tazntzi Minus, the rock festival Krilya need creation.

Alexander Kostarev, Disen Gage, EXIT project, InProg need translation to the Russian Wikipedia.

Please, let's do this. M.V.E.i. 21:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Bereza Kartuzka Concentration Camp
Currently there is a discussion whether to change the title of Bereza Kartuska Detention Camp located near Brest in Belarus to Bereza Kartuska Concentration Camp at Talk:Bereza Kartuska Detention Camp. Come voice your opinion Bandurist (talk) 03:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Давай Россия Can someone tell me who wrote this song
I keep hearing this song on Russian Channel 1, particularly on Star Factory.

What is the name of this song, and who first sang it?:

Давай Россия, Давай, давай, Давай красиво, Давай, давай. Давай Россия, Давай, давай, Давай красиво, Давай, давай, Давай, давай, давай! ... Гол, гол, гол! Мы выграем гонку! Гол, гол, гол! Россия - чемпионка (Россия - чемпионка) Гол, гол, гол! Забей, забей вдогонку Гол, гол, гол! Россия - чемпионка!


 * Can you provide an internet reference of who wrote or first sang the song? (a Russian or English link)
 * Does anyone know if there is a Russian or Ukrainian page on this song or its singer?

This seems like such a popular song in Russia, I was thinking of making a English page about it.

Thanks.

Odessaukrain (talk) 00:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It's called - "Большие гонки".--Riurik(discuss) 22:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Is this the name of the song, or the name of the television series, "the big race" "Большие гонки" that plays the song?
 * Thanks for answering, your wonderful. Happy old and new year.
 * Do you happen to know the artist who sings it? Odessaukrain (talk) 16:03, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Pipiskin
Please pay some attention to Articles for deletion/Pipiskin --ssr (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Russland
Hello, I am the sysop of th german vision of the portal:Russia, maybey the sysop of the english one, can connect me, to combine the 2 portals nearer then now.

You can also send mee a message, if you have any ideas of connecting the german portals about the diviedes states of the USSR, like the russian portal, or the portal moscow.

Therefore Please check User Manecke!

With greatings manecke!

DYK stuff
Started off with a few of the older DYK hooks from prior formatting which I put into rotation (sets 1-3), then began going through Recent additions 100 upward towards the more recent ones, and will eventually proceed from Recent additions 99 through the older ones. Cirt (talk) 08:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: Through Recent additions 119. Cirt (talk) 09:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Portal Peer Review
This portal has had a portal peer review. Please see Portal peer review/Russia/archive1. Cirt (talk) 03:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for overhaul and creation of a single WP:RUSSIA project
Going thru tonnes of Russian articles, I was actually very surprised to find 3 articles that one would probably expect to be featured articles are not; those being Russia, Moscow and Russian language. I was also surprised to find that many articles I expected to exist do not; prime example being many of the Federal government ministries. Then there are other problems such as:


 * Naming conventions - very little continuity and no real guidelines for Russian names and articles in wikipedia as a whole - an example is here.
 * Categorisation - naming conventions will help somewhat - following other naming conventions will help too - an example of poor categorisation throughout Russian articles - Category:Russian_people
 * Article assessment - there are no guidelines for this, and it has resulted in some unusual results. Guidelines are needed.
 * Article review - there are no guidelines specific to Russian articles and with more than one project, other projects won't necessarily know of review requests. Additionally, because of the number of projects with very little scope in each, wider community views can be missed. For example, Russian language was a featured article until 23 August 2007. It's featured article review, unfortunately it went unannounced on all Russian projects, apart from this corner
 * Collaboration - there is none to very little collaboration on Russian content between the various projects and unfortunately article quality, and perhaps stability, will suffer for it.
 * Recruitment/outreach - As we are members of various Russian projects, we took the time to add our name to a list, because we have an interest in a certain (or all) aspect/s of Russia. New members are needed, but how will they find the projects? There needs to be co-ordination to 'recruit' new members; particularly from ru:wiki.
 * Scope - just what is the scope for the various projects? WikiProject Russian federal subjects has a very narrow yet defined scope; WikiProject Russian history has a hazy 'historical' scope; a question being raised here.

What I am suggesting is the following projects be merged into WikiProject_Russia and for it to be co-ordinated much like any other all-encompassing project. The projects I am suggest to be merged are:


 * WikiProject_Russia - main project
 * WikiProject Russian federal subjects
 * WikiProject Russian history
 * Portal:Russia

Other projects which can be used as guides on how to structure the project could be:


 * WikiProject Australia
 * Portal:Australia - a featured portal

By merging all projects into a single project, we can then create "work groups" for specific Russian topics, such as:


 * History
 * Politics
 * Places (geography)
 * Culture (language, music, literature, film, etc)
 * Biographical
 * Society
 * Transport
 * Economy
 * etc

Perhaps others have other ideas.

Of course there needs to be concensus from all projects for a merge and structures be discussed, etc, but firstly, there needs to be discussion on the pros and cons of such an idea. I have posted this on the other project talk pages, and have asked that all discussion take place here so that all projects can read off the same page. --Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 04:00, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would most certainly oppose the Featured Portal, Portal:Russia itself being "merged" with anything else, as it is meant to be a standalone portal and is completely different from a WikiProject. The rest of the stuff does indeed sound interesting and good ideas. Cirt (talk) 07:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Are Russian sci. journals unreliable?
Arthur Rubin wrote in Talk:Graph isomorphism: "I should add that, before, during, and after the Soviet era, Russian journals have a somewhat mixed degree of reliability. See lysenkoism for "during", but it's not just the Soviets.  Andrew Odlyzko asked me to verify some obscure Russian papers in combinatorics while I was working at JPL, and I found most of them to be incorrect.— Arthur Rubin"

I think, this statement that before, during, and after the Soviet era, all Russian sci. journals are unreliable is defamation, because the fact is that the first human in space (Yuri Gagarin) was not possible for low level of sci. and for low level of sci. journals etc. However, when I tried to discuss this statement somebody supported Arthur Rubin! I think this anti-Russian info may be very important for this portal.--Tim32 (talk) 19:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A question better posed for the talk page of WP:RUSSIA - this is just a talk page for maintaining the portal itself. Cirt (talk) 19:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Naming conventions
Hello. Can someone please check if I moved the article Alexey Tryoshnikov right. I work primarily at the russian portal of the german wikipedia, so I am not sure about the naming conventions of the english one. It seemes here are articles named Alexei, Alexey, Aleksei... --Paramecium (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You'd want to ask that at the talk page of WP:RUSSIA. This page is just for discussion about the portal itself. Cirt (talk) 20:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry. At the german one this is the place for all kinds of questions. Where I have to post such questions? --Paramecium (talk) 20:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's OK, Cirt, we are watching all bases :) To answer the question, the romanization guidelines for Russian are available at WP:RUS, and the existing title fully conforms to the default romanization prescribed by that guideline.  What still needs to be double-checked, however, is whether the person is better known under a different spelling in English.  If that can't be checked or if there are multiple acceptable spellings, then this default one should be retained.  Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:46, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tryoshnikov is surely better known under the spelling Treshnikov in English. At the german wikipedia the article name is generally transcribed on the basis of romanization guidelines. I thought it's the same here...thats why I moved the article. Thank you, and sorry for the trouble. --Paramecium (talk) 20:58, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No trouble at all. What matters most is that we now have an article about this person :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 11:10, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ivan Vasilyevich

 * Please check out this link and state your opinion . Thank you! KNewman (talk) 18:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

american view of russia but not real russia
your quote is so biased and typical american view, plz remove it, russian media now is of american standards, need proof???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURvBJwWjhw — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akin12255 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Which quote? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Removed "bold redesign"
Please, I ask you kindly not to do this. I worked very hard to get this portal to Featured Portal Quality Status. This "bold redesign" risks losing that status. Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Notice from the Portals WikiProject
WikiProject Portals is back!

The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.

As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.

There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.

And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.

From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely,    &mdash; The Transhumanist   07:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Portal content selection criteria
To make this information more visible, below are criteria for this portal's content. North America1000 22:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC) The list should only contain articles that have been given a quality rating of Featured articles.
 * Copied from Portal:Russia/Selected article and Portal:Russia/Selected biography:


 * Adding articles
 * Feel free to add Featured quality Russia articles to the above list.
 * See also:
 * Category:FA-Class Russia articles
 * Category:FA-Class Russian history articles
 * Category:FA-Class Russian and Soviet military history articles
 * Category:FA-Class Soviet Union articles

Portal updates
The following updates have been performed to the portal. North America1000 23:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Updated using Template:Transclude random excerpt, providing current, up-to-date information that is verbatim to article content. A consensus approving the usage of transclusion templates in portals was formed at this Village Pump discussion. Listed selections from Portal:Russia/Selected biography on the main portal page.
 * Added more FA-class articles to the Featured biography section (diff)
 * Added more FA-class articles to the Featured article section (diff)