Talk:"Heroes" (David Bowie song)

Sources for Motorhead cover version.
I do not have the interest or the time to figure out how to go through the process of linking any of these. Perhaps someone (though most definitely NOT Jim1138) will.


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J06yQb4lbPk
 * http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/hear-motorheads-gritty-cover-of-david-bowies-heroes-w495465;
 * http://www.stereogum.com/1955684/motorhead-heroes-david-bowie-cover/music
 * https://consequence.net/2017/08/motorhead-unearth-poignant-cover-of-david-bowies-heroes-one-of-lemmys-final-recordings-stream
 * https://www.jambase.com/article/motorhead-covers-david-bowies-heroes-new-compilation
 * http://ultimateclassicrock.com/motorhead-david-bowie-heroes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.73.109 (talk) 20:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I have no comment about the sources, but IMO this is non-notable trivia. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 21:03, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The sources were provided for the person that insisted there be some. If you're referring to the extra information regarding the recording, fine, leave it out. If you're referring to the existence of the cover ITSELF, then I suggest you delete the entire list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.73.109 (talk) 21:37, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, a cover version exists. There are numerous cover versions of many songs. Some of them, like the Beatles' "Yesterday" have thousands of released versions. Listing them is pointless. Per WP:COVERSONG, very few of them (in most cases, none of them) should be included.

From the existing list, the Wallflowers' version clears the bar. I don't immediately see any others.

In the mean time, adding additional examples without bothering to cite a source is not productive. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * 12.104.195.43 a.k.a. 67.224.73.109 has apparently taken the edit on themselves, though he is uninterested in this and doesn't have the time to bother with it. (Heck, he was "done with" this days ago.)
 * Comments and discussion for and against this are welcome. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 22:21, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I've replaced the X Factor version because it charted high (meets notability criteria). I agree that the onslaught of one-off live covers, B-sides and album fillers was quite redundant in this article.--Gorpik (talk) 07:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Your a.k.a. assumption is close, though not quite techinically correct. I'd need to see a verifiable source on that for total proof, of course.

As for the edit - merely following through on what the Wikipedia Gods hath decreed. And not even a thank you. Tch tch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.73.109 (talk) 22:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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Cover versions
Hello Heroes fans! I am fairly new to Wikipedia, so please forgive any faux-pas. I added an infobox for The Wallflowers single, but I believe this wasn't well received. Understandable! I believe that people coming from The Wallflowers pages would appreciate seeing what the previous/next singles are. I don't believe that any other cover versions were as big of hits outside this one. Can we replace the image of Jakob Dylan with the infobox? I think the infobox will be more helpful in providing context than the picture of Jakob -- and that way it's not taking up any more real estate on the page. All the best, UnsungHeroWiki (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * See my talk page for my response to this. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 01:54, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

There have been two recent editions, one of them removing most cover versions listed in the article, and another reverting that. Not all covers of a song should be listed; there are guidelines at WP:SONGCOVER and I think most covers currently listed do not meet the criteria set there. In fact, the list of covers has been purged in the past, only to have it slowly bloated again in subsequent editions. So I think we should clarify here which covers merit being in that list and remove the rest.--Gorpik (talk) 08:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. Being this is one of Bowie's best-known songs, it's understandable that there would be an influx of cover versions listed. While the entire article needs expanding (which I intend to do at some point), the majority of covers listed are not notable enough to be listed here. Even though quite a few are referenced, the only ones that should be listed here would be ones that have received coverage by multiple RSs over the years, or have charted in numerous countries. Basically, ones that qualify WP:SONGCOVER. – zmbro (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Top of the Pops
From watching a YouTube clip of Bowie's performance of this song on TOTP, it seems clear to me that he's singing live (over a backing track) rather than miming, and there are plenty of Bowie fansites that say the same, but it's difficult to find a reliable source for this. The best I can come up with is |this from the South African Mail & Guardian, which says of his performance "he just stood there and sang" - to me this clearly means live singing, even if the word "live" isn't used. Are there any other sources - for example, any Bowie biographies that mention it? Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 16:15, 10 July 2023 (UTC)