Talk:Überfremdung

Sections to translate
This page still needs sections: "Use in politics" and "Use in linguistics" (describing language academies). samwaltz 15:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

"The concept has not yet been given a term in modern Anglo-American political discourse, but appropriate words would be Superalienation (Latin super over and alias other), or Hyperxenesis (Greek ibid)." Suggesting putative (rather than accepted) academic translations sounds a little bit like original research. In any case, I'm not sure "superalienation" fits the bill, since alienation is the process of being made alien from something else, not that of being infiltrated by alien influences. Lfh 16:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * My immigration class used the German term... if that means anything. gren グレン 04:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Modern Use
The Economist notes that Jörg Haider used the word in the modern era. It is referenced in their obituary of him: "The phrase Überfremdung, foreigner overrun, which crept into his immigration-talk, had not been heard since Nazi days."QA5Qz (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, whoever wrote the main text, for a very useful article!
87.160.87.36 (talk) 09:57, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Other languages
The target articles do not exist, so I propose removing: The word is related to terms in various languages: "foreign infiltration", "foreign penetration", French surpopulation étrangère, déculturation, envahissement par des étrangers, es:extranjerización, and infiltrazione straniera ...

Zezen (talk) 12:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Transformation to today's meaning even before the Third Reich
Ernst Niekisch used the word as early as 1932, i.e. before the "seizure of power", in the sense of "overly foreign [here -> non-monetary] influence" several times in his book "Hitler - A German Fate", here is an example sentence: "Nowhere was this will to live more threatened than in Munich, the center of separatist, Roman and French alienation [Überfremdung/over-foreignization]." (page 7/8) https://archive.org/details/NiekischErnst-HitlerEinDeutschesVerhaengnis/page/n8/mode/1up 2A02:8109:1040:29C0:192C:6044:78C9:FD24 (talk) 13:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)